Note that the only felony charge is child endangerment. And of course the only thing about an ounce of pot that puts your kids in danger is what the government will do to you if it finds out you have it.
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58 Responses to “Drugs The Drug War Ruins Antoher Family”
When I was about 7, after a few days of indoctrination the DARE program I saw my mom smoking a joint after I was supposed to be in bed. I started screaming from the top of my lungs that she was a drug addict and ran to my best friend’s apartment (two floors up) begging his parents for help. Fortunately I’ve been deprogrammed fully since then, my worry though is that my daughter will go through indoctrinationDARE and pull the same stunt on me. I wish I could opt her out and have her do something constructive at school, instead I’ll probably pull her from school that day and go to an amusement park or something.
C’mon, everyone, haven’t you heard? Once the all-knowing government makes something illegal, that means that continuing the activity makes you a bad parent. We need to get those kids out of that house ASAP and into a Proper Christian Household, or they might turn out the homosexual.
Why not start talking to your daughter now about drugs and alcohol?
You’re here parent, chances are you’ll have quite a bit more pull with her than a cop. Also show her some of the stories here about abuses by cops to make her wary and suspicious of them. Your daughter should know that cops are not her friends, they don’t have her best interest at heart, they will lie to her, and she should never talk to them if she thinks she is in trouble. Tell them she will only talk if you are there.
Hey Radley, has anyone done a story on what happens to kids who rat out their parents? For example, Dad doing time is not going to be around while they are growing up, and Dad with a record and no job is not going to be exactly helping with living expenses. I’d like to see a story doing a before and after. Most of what I’d expect to find are just “after” that show Dad as a loser pot-head, instead of a normal guy whose life went downhill after the bust.
The child endangerment charge may have come from what he threatened to do to the kids when he found out they reported him to the cops. That’s the way it would have been had they been my kids (back in the days before discipline was a three way negotiation between you, the kids, and CPS).
I was a bit freaked out last week when my 4 year old started telling a random person in the grocery store about the time she tasted my wine and it was “so gross,” and just told myself that the vast majority of people are decent and probably did the same things with their kids etc. The more I see these stories though, I wonder…
I am generally not one to make the police state comparisons willy-nilly, but this story really does have a bit of an East German child-indoctrination vibe, no?
Yikes. The HuffPo commentariat must have heard that I almost started to think better of them after reading the Cory Maye piece. There are a lot of pretty depressing reactions in the comments. It is pretty fucked that there are people who actually believe that having dad be a convicted felon is better than having dad smoke pot. TO charge someone with child endangerment, shouldn’t there be some specific danger that the children were subjected to? In any case, I hope these kids get beat up a lot at school.
Don’t you remember the “mike’s hard lemonade at the baseball game” story? I think having a chat with your daughter really soon would be a good idea. Hell, the hard lemonade at the baseball game was accidental – the dad thought it was just regular lemonade.
With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of
terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night
and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were
horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as
the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages,
and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the
discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and
everything connected with it. The songs, the processions, the banners, the
hiking, the drilling with dummy rifles, the yelling of slogans, the worship
of Big Brother–it was all a sort of glorious game to them. All their
ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against
foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal
for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with
good reason, for hardly a week passed in which ‘The Times’ did not carry
a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak–‘child hero’
was the phrase generally used–had overheard some compromising remark
and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.
My daughter is starting middle school next year. I’ve already started instructing her not to speak to anyone in authority about *anything* unless I’m there. I’ve told her the conversation should go like this:
“Did you see your friend with the (drug/gun/whatever)?”
“I want to talk to my dad.”
“Were you ever in possession of the (drug/gun/whatever)?”
“I want to talk to my dad.”
“You’re going to be expelled if you don’t tell us.”
“I want to talk to my dad.”
Seriously, when is the right age to start talking to your kids about this kind of thing? My daughter’s 2, which seems entirely too young (outside of me telling her that the TSA agents were doing a very bad thing when they were feeling up my wife a couple of weeks ago after she refused the porn-o-scope). Looking far into the future, I’m already planning to pull her out of DARE classes. But obviously it has to start before that. Just not sure when…
When I was about 12 my mother gently explained to me that marijuana wasn’t a big deal and that it was kind of like wine for some people. She later told me she had what she called an irrational dislike of cops.
It’s good to be the child of libertarians.
What’s weird is that I was a homeschooled libertarian child from the semi-country and I STILL was freaked out at first. Law-abiding propaganda can still get you.
July 6th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Sounds like a set-up to me. Probably a case of parental alienation where the mom put the kids up to it in order to bolster her case for divorce/custody.
The guy is separated from his wife and the kids showed up for a scheduled visitation. According to the arresting officer, when he arrived the kid went back in the house then came back out and handed him “a small bag of weed” and said “here’s the stuff”. So even by the police version of events they never found him in actual possession. Reasonable to doubt it was his, seems just as likely to me that the daughter brought it to his house just to screw with him.
#27 Andrew S. – That’s the thing. If you’ve ever tried to explain to a talkative 4 year old what is and is not appropriate conversation… Yeah. This is why you also get situations like “MOM, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT MAN’S HAIR?” and “MOM! WHY DOES THAT LADY HAVE A MARK ON HER FACE?” all at top volume. It’s certainly something we talk about on a regular basis, but it takes a bit of time and maturation for kids to get the whole appropriateness concept.
I don’t think you guys are getting it with the felony charge. It hasn’t been levied to get a felony conviction…it’s being used to get him to take the plea bargain and plead guilty to all of the misdemeanor charges, get him into the probation mill for a couple of years and to get his “rights” as a parent under the prevue of CPS.
It’s ALL about control of his life until those kids are grown up.
‘It’s ALL about control of his life until those kids are grown up.’
exactly. it starts in the schools- if the parents and kids play by their rules, they get an attaboy. if the kid wants to play sports, he/she has to play by their rules. wanna go to college? play by their rules. these kids start pissing in cups as early as jr high, they’re routinely searched, their lockers are searched, dogs are patrolling hallways, cars are searched, computers monitored, everything’s regimented… If you wanna be free, start living like it. Put your kid in a private/homeschool/unschool situation- it’s a solid first step. If you don’t, your kid will be jumping through hoops to get the grades, certificates, and recognition that these assholes repeatedly tell them is so important. They don’t give a damn about our kids as individuals or helping to educate them.
I have a question about commenting on Huffpost ( since Balko’s stories now appear there and he is linking there a lot).. if anyone knows. Does commenting on Huffpost somehow connect my facebook account without my knowledge? Because I posted a comment on this article- created a dedicated account there through my email address ( not in anyway connecting to facebook that I was aware of), and now I have all these “friends” there that are my facebook friends. I don’t know.. all this facebook integration and all the other stuff with comments everywhere is starting to annoy me. I like to be able to comment as I do here or with a login for a specific platform. I hate all these sites that automatically connect through stuff and/or have all these different options to comment ( ostensibly so one DOESN’T connect with the other crap). I’m beginning to root for a myspace-like demise.
John C. Randolph |
July 7th, 2011 at 5:40 am
This story goes to show how important it is for kids to understand that governments are far more dangerous than drugs.
I remember reading about a kid who ratted his parents out in Russia in the early 20th century- they celebrated him on stamps and to other kids for decades. It turned out that the government made the kid up… DARE doesn’t even have to make its poster children up- they really exist!
Seriously, when is the right age to start talking to your kids about this kind of thing?
As soon as you get them a cell phone. We got one for my son at the age of 7, and right then and there I sat him down and talked to him about sexting. I told him,
1. The cops/school officials are not your friends.
2. The cops/school officials are not going to try and help you.
3. The cops/school officials will lie to you.
4. The cops/school officials are not your friends.
I also went through something like Sean L. Any question they ask should be met with, “I want to talk to my Dad (or Mom, and if they get her…I pity them).”
This isn’t anything new. Back in the early 1990’s there was a famous case in Montgomery County Maryland of a situation very much like this. The DARE-‘educated’ snotty brat of a professional couple ratted on her parents in a fit of pique at parental discipline, and the parents lost just about everything. The father was some well-paid Fed civil servant. I can’t recall the name of the family at present, but it was a major to-do back then.
FRY HER! if she gets her way and the slaves get a taste for freedom they might take away our pensions for being fat lazy bloodsuckers AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Whatsup to the Ventura, CA cops who beat me, try to avoid another investigation for racism by the state attorneys boys! Also to the incompetent Ventura Co. judges who insure pensions but aren’t bothered by justice! And to the bloodsucking defense lawyers like David Goldshain from FCOP in Ventura who never counseled anything but take the corrupt DA’s deal and pay him his five thousand dollars to go handle setting up your punishment with his buddies, the DA and judges. It’s just one big fun game for all those parasites to make excuses to get fat off the backs of people who actually do productive work.
REVOLUTION…these bloodsuckers will bring us down even if we avoid them, they will bloodsuck us to death!
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