Wow. So besides from being a mysognist, it also seems like he’s a racist, classist, and many other things. Yikes. Yes, publish the list with his name and let him deal with the repercussions.

Expulsion maybe – but juvenile court, no way.

By the way, the list he wrote is on the internet. I won’t link to it. But want a taste? Here are a couple, with some identifying details redacted. The reader can determine if “all boys” write stuff like this as teens.

24. Fished Faced Gook: [NAME] is the first Asian (Zipper Head) to ever be on the list. But she’s not your typical Gook. She has a nice ass, huge rack, and takes idiot math with coons. So as you can see not all stereotypes are true, though a lot are because I’m pretty sure she reeks of Wasabi sauce. You can also add to her list of uncharacteristic traits the fact that she hangs out with some of the ghettoest girls in the grade, not to mention the smelliest. But besides all that she’s The List’s only and best looking Asian and kudos for being the only Jr. to make [TEAM]

42. Ms. Chokesondick: I don’t know who is dumber. [NAME] or her parents. Lets weigh it out. Her parents adopted a mud blooded wet back and tried to civilize her by giving her the last name [NAME] and also let her play a brutally dangerous sport. Then there is [NAME]. Thinking she can make a difference in the greatest sport ever invented. Not knowing the only time a women should be on the field is during half time doing theatrical dances or asking male players about the cold whether. Or how about for not knowing the simple fact the genital herpes last forever. Well I think [NAME] wins. The only logic I can think of for her pure stupidity is Syphilis. If Syphilis is not treated in its early stages it can lead to insanity. Add that with her already bipolar personality and you once again have Jack Nickelson in the movie “One Flew Over the Coo Coo’s nest”.

Exactly. Apparently she still doesn’t get that. Wishing someone to become a meth-addicted con with baby-mama drama because of a stupid teenage prank (that honestly isn’t hat different that what we all did in high school to one degree or another) is not cool on a site that respects freedom and liberty.

But it’s still not the high road. Also, he doesn’t deserve physical violence committed against him but may be flirting with asking for it. It’s like the whole, dressing a certain way isn’t asking for abuse thing. Nobody deserves that, and if you want people to believe that then you should set an example of this compassion and humanity you want society at large to engender.

Ehh… what?

You can thank feminism and a general “entitled princess syndrome” in our society for my not caring about their feelings at all. I used to care and even then I would still say arresting him is ludicrous, even a suspension is given the first ammendment. Of course, that doesn’t meant there won’t be social consequences either, as it should be.

Also, somebody please let me know when WordPress starts allowing bloggers to place the “Leave a Comment” button immediately after the first paragraph of a post.

I’m not asking this to be snarky. And I’m not necessarily advocating for the criminalization of hurtful words or actions. But there is a clear distinction between how we respond to physical violence and emotional/mental violence, and I would argue that libertarians are the most stark in their belief in this distinction. If that is the case, what is the reason for that? And can emotional/mental violence ever rise to the point of being criminal?

#63 Zeb

Whatever happened to “sticks and stone may break my bones, but names will never hurt me”?

Words were elevated to the level of sticks and stones by sexual harassment laws. Girls might have to learn to ignore words like this in school, but once they get a job they can sue.

At work, the right to free speech was zeroed out by the right not to be offended.

I would never make it through public high school today (and I was a good kid). I don’t think that I attended a day of school from the time I was 12 without a knife and a lighter in my pocket. No responsible person should ever leave the house without a knife and a lighter.

#49 | Nancy Lebovitz | May 12th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Mannie, JS said he didn’t care about the girls’ feelings, and I took that to mean in general rather than that the proposed punishment for the boy was excessive.

It still doesn’t matter. You have no right not to be offended. The converse of that is that I have a right to be offensive. A’oles are a protected class. I find the Kum-bay-yah position to be morally offensive. It demeans humanity. Should Kum-Bay_Yahistas be thrown in prison? I think they should. To the Gulag!

Radley asked these people to guest-blog. I’m pretty sure he knew precisely what would happen, but it’s rather sad that some people have started yelling over this stuff. It’s a good part of the reason why many people don’t trust libertarians.

(Personally, as I said, I’d rather talk to right wingers and the moderate left, the doves do my head in)

Dave – Sure, the private school needs to attract pupils. That means they’re far MORE likely to have zero-tolerance (zero-brain) policies about behaviour, not less.

Any deacent school is going to have records. A lot of records. At least at secondary level here, only a *tiny* proportion of them relate to the state’s demands. Most of them relate to the qualifications the school offers, which are set by private exam boards.

“And what is to be gained by standardizing discipline requirements?”

Consistence and fairness. Precisely the things most important for establishing discipline in children. All you do by pushing things privately is ensure that there are NO schools, or a few ones which basically teach nothing but stop the parents getting in trouble with the authorities, which take “disruptive” students (i.e. ones who do ANYTHING wrong).

America spends over 50% more, on average, to educate each kid (and uses four year university courses, not three) and has worse results than the UK’s far more uniform teaching methods and syllabus. If you have rubber rooms, then that’s a problem with your bureaucracy, a weed which needs frequent pruning, not a problem with the concept of public schools

(Ignore the handwringing articles (from the left-dovvies, who irritate me significantly MORE than right wingers) over “only 50% of kids have 5 good GCSE’s” here, the exams are only marginally easier than 30 years ago, when the target was 25%…UK schools are generally very good)

“Government is the use of force by the majority (and/or influential) against the minority. It’s not compassion or caring or excellence or efficiency. ”

And Libertarians are free-market maniacs with a hard on for the gold standard. Look, we can either trade marketing slogans or we can have a discussion. And if it’s the slogans, well, there are other people who mock far better than I do, so I’ll leave it to them. Yes, government and people are unequal actors, and there must be consideration as to public access and proper oversight into everything they do, but corporations and people are also unequal actors, and profit motives make them poorer choices to run universal services. If you want schools to be non-profits, well, I’m listening, but…

And your health system is broken because you’re insisting on following a broken “compromise” rather than a sensible systematic reform, yes.

(Again, the only way either the UK or US health systems can be defended are “they evolved that way”. Take a look at the .nl system for one with universal insurance, which avoids adverse selection, encourages preventative care and which has a *higher* percentage of care delivered via private companies than the US!)