I’ve honestly been pretty disgusted in the last few days by the torture apologists who think that everything done in this war on terror has been vindicated because we finally got Osama Bin Laden.
(Personally, I’ve been a little confused on the photo debate….No, I don’t think releasing them would quell any conspiracy theories, but I’d still like to see some visual proof. Not because I have some carnal desire to see a bloody picture of a corpse and feel like revenge has been found…but because I very much believe we deserve to and need to see the results of our government’s actions, no matter how vile or difficult to swallow they may be, and in fact, especially because of those reasons. There’s nothing moral about murdering a murderer. I wish we would have captured and tried him and tried to bring real justice, but that will have to remain an unfulfilled wish. But if we’re going to have leaders that do kill in the name of our country, and have people celebrating that man’s death, we also need to see what that looks like, to understand that our actions have real consequences. )
But to get to the point here….I’m assuming you’ve heard that the nom de guerre of the courier that eventually got us to Bin Laden was provided by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Faraj Al-Libi while they were in CIA custody. It took another 4 years to figure out the courier’s real name, and through the NSA and operatives on the ground in Afghanistan and Pakistan, they eventually tracked him thanks to one fatal call that put him on the radar and after which his now tracked license plate led us to the mansion sized compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. (That’s a really shoddy summary, but I figure it will do for this purpose).
But at the end of the day, waterboarding, was not what led us t0 Osama Bin Laden. I’ll give you links to a few good pieces here, here, and here that breakdown the timelines and details. This hasn’t stopped a number of former Bush officials and Republicans from claiming torture was indeed the golden ticket.
My question, is even if it had been torture that led us to Bin Laden…does that make torture right? moral? Does that mean we never should have had the founding principle that torture is wrong? It’s one the first President of this country espoused.
So while you may be pondering those questions….FOX News has decided to ask it’s viewers the following: (I didn’t know how to insert the video–technically challenged—but it’s worth a click)
When did that become an acceptable question?
And on that note….in last night’s first presidential debate for the GOP primary, Tim Pawlenty said he supports waterboarding in “certain circumstances”, and then said Obama should be challenged on his views on enhanced interrogation techniques.
Is that how far we’ve come? That it’s now completely alright to support torture in a mainstream televised political debate? And to even challenge those who oppose it?
I feel confused and lost and shocked.
What do you guys think?