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Friday, March 25th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  MassHole | 

    Gee, Mr. Lam seems a bit crooked. I wonder if they will go back and review the cases he prosecuted? Ha! I crack myself up.

  2. #2 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “Judge who refuses to sign arrest warrant. So the state police want to arrest the judge.”

    Now I have a better idea how Belvin Perry signed a court order
    to prevent FIJA (Jury Nullification) Pamphlet distribution or how Rochelle Curly signed the search-anyone-passing-by warrant down in Florida. It’s the Brownshirts calling the shots. The fact that they’re both black gives these examples such a Jim Crow, comply-or-die, feel, too. Yuck. Glad I’m not involved with the seedy, sordid netherworld of “Justice.”

  3. #3 |  Jesse | 

    Wow…..interestingly (according to the commentary), the judge would probably have little legal trouble ordering the arrest of the state trooper under the same charge of “coercion”. She should do it and haul that dumbass into court.

    Do police really think they own the legal system lock, stock and barrel?

  4. #4 |  celticdragon | 

    Former deputy DA Lam also has a throbbing chubby for apocalyptic race war books on Amazon.com. (The sort where the white people have to protect themselves from the black gangstas and the brown skinned hordes from south of the border…)

    http://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Two-Breakup-America/product-reviews/0929408179/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_next_5?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&pageNumber=5&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

    Scroll about halfway down to find his glowing approval.

  5. #5 |  demize! | 

    Mmm tasty detective work Celticdragon. Most deeliciousss…

  6. #6 |  CyniCAl | 

    •Judge refuses to sign arrest warrant. So the state police want to arrest the judge.

    A violent system gone haywire. Interesting. Perhaps it’s an insight into why so many judges rubber-stamp warrants.

    The United Police State of America.

  7. #7 |  Radley Balko | 

    celticdragon — Great find.

  8. #8 |  MassHole | 

    From celticgragon’s link:

    Mr. Lam says “This book is an excellent prediction of what is to come in the next century. Not only are black and hispanic militancy on the rise, but White movements are gaining adherents daily, probably in response to the crimes perpetrated against Whites by these other races. Mr. Chittum’s predictions are also backed up with statistics, and he also shows that past multiethnic empires have broken up. Read it and prepare.”

    Wow. I like how uses lower case on black and hispanic, but capitalizes white in both instances. I wonder how many people this asshole railroaded?

  9. #9 |  T.J. Brown | 

    Carlos Lam is brown-skinned himself, so let’s tone it down a little bit, OK?

    Carlos is a friend of mine. He graduated from Indiana the same year I did (and Radley did, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Radley and Carlos’ paths crossed.)

    He opposes the drug war, opposes the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya, is very concerned about the loose dollar and the Fed, strongly supports Federalist policy, and campaigned heavily for Rand Paul and Ron Paul.

    In other words, he isn’t unlike many readers here.

    Carlos has a beautiful family that he cares deeply about. He and they now must suffer the consequences for a stupid, stupid, stupid e-mail and for lying about sending it.

    He’s suffering the consequences now, so please don’t suggest he’s some racist monster based on a book review he post on Amazon 12 years ago. The facts of his e-mail to Scott Walker can suggest enough ugly things about him.

    I can assure you that he actually is not pure evil. He’s a decent man.

  10. #10 |  Black Bellamy | 

    Not pure evil does not equal decent. No decent man would propose framing someone for a felony.

  11. #11 |  celticdragon | 

    so please don’t suggest he’s some racist monster based on a book review he post on Amazon 12 years ago. The facts of his e-mail to Scott Walker can suggest enough ugly things about him.

    The fact he cared enough about a race war book written by Thomas Chittum to write the review we can all see says something more than a little disturbing about the man.

    Want to know more about Thomas Chittum?

    Thomas W. Chittum is an author,[1] military analyst[2] and former mercenary from New Jersey.[3] He served in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War.[4] He fought in the Rhodesian War and the Croatian War of Independence.[5] Chittum predicts that the United States will soon face Balkanization[6] and a second Civil War based on racial conflicts.[7] He also says that he plans to move to upstate New York because it will be the last Caucasian-controlled area after the American Southwest effectively becomes part of Mexico due to immigration by 2020.[8] Chittum was a speaker at the “First Annual Conference on Racial Separatism” organized in 1998 by Jeff Anderson which also featured Jared Taylor, Robert Brock, and Don Black.[9]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_W._Chittum

    If your friend sees fit to endorse the polemics of white supremacists, then we can make certain judgments on his character.

  12. #12 |  Shannon's Mouse | 

    So Carlos is a Paul-loving, states rights (or is it “raaahhhhts”?) gold bug that loves his family and just happens to enjoy reading apocalyptic predictions of RaHoWa?

    Got it.

  13. #13 |  T.J. Brown | 

    I have no defense for him. He lost his job — as he should have — probably will not practice law again — appropriate, I’d think — and have to face the humiliation and the ignominy for suggesting a “false flag” tactic.

    It was an indecent act by a decent man. He’ll suffer the consequences. But he’s not a racist, and he’s not framing offenders in criminal court.

  14. #14 |  T.J. Brown | 

    Carlos is himself brown-skinned. I have never heard him speak of Thomas Chittum. I can’t speak to the review. Sorry.

  15. #15 |  Just Plain Brian | 

    T.J. has a point. It’s neither reasonable nor fair to judge a man by his words and his deeds.

  16. #16 |  pegr | 

    WOW! Best flame-thread ever!

  17. #17 |  T.J. Brown | 

    No, not what I said. Just give me evidence that he’s actually framing people in court. Given that he’s for decriminalization of drugs and is skeptical of law enforcement, I am giving you my perspective. Maybe he’s routinely framing criminals. I don’t work with him.

    He is a gold bug. He is a Paul fanatic. I’m neither, but I know enough people that are way too much into gold, or who like Rand Paul.

    I know that he’s not a racist. The review has me scratching my head, but it makes no sense to me.

    A book review from 1999? Why hasn’t he reviewed other books by white separatists?

    My jaw hit the floor when I saw the story today. Judge him on that. He lied to his boss, lied to everyone else when his boss defended him. His family will pay a price for this.

    I’m very sad for him and his family and even if he brought it on himself, it’s difficult to see a friend’s name attacked as it has been.

    Knowing him personally, he’s a decent man.

  18. #18 |  johnl | 

    The CT Trooper Mark Lauretano is already famous for stuff that happened in 1999 and 2004.

  19. #19 |  T.J. Brown | 

    Why hasn’t he been out there promoting and reading other white supremacist and separatist authors and being outspoken about it?

  20. #20 |  EH | 

    T.J. Does he own a puppy?

    Snark aside, though, I’m sympathetic to T.J.’s attitude here in an underdog way. I don’t know either of them, but minimizing is just as reasonable a response to the news as “12 year old book review” maximalism is. There are edgy people in all walks of life. Then again, maybe he was just good at hiding it. How’s that for moral relativism?

  21. #21 |  Highway | 

    This kind of thing creates a difficult situation for folks who know the guy, like TJ does. And while TJ thinks that Carlos Lam is a decent guy, it’s pretty much a given that he does things like suggest faking an attack as a false flag attack, and then, when it’s first found out about, makes up a lie to try to cover his ass. And maybe that’s the definition of ‘decent’ for a lawyer, and maybe those acts are to be expected of most people caught with their pants down, but it sure doesn’t scream ‘decent’ to me.

    Most people act differently around strangers from when they think it’s a private conversation. But I think the story shows there are lines that shouldn’t be crossed. It wouldn’t be a story if people didn’t think the action was outrageous.

  22. #22 |  T.J. Brown | 

    You’re right, Highway. But it’s hard to square the guy I know with this whole episode. I’ve known him for 17-18 years, and he’s always been a guy who does everything by the book. For Christ’s sake, he e-mails Walker’s address at the governor’s office to discuss political tactics? He could suggest something savory (as savory as politics goes), like organizing a political rally for Walker, and he should know that any discussion needs to be to a private e-mail that would not be accessed on state time.

    It just doesn’t compute.

    As I said, I’m very sad for him, and very sad for his family.

  23. #23 |  shecky | 

    OK, so Lam is a decent guy personally.

    Professionally, he’s an asshole. And worse.

  24. #24 |  random_guy | 

    “decent” is directly relative to how much you know about a person. The BTK killer was happily married for 30 years and actively participated in his local church. Thats an extreme example, but it proves that you should be careful about the confidence with which you “know” someone. Theres dozens of psychological and social reasons why we may ignore the worst in someone.

    I’m even willing to consider that Carlos F. Lam from Amazon isn’t the same guy. But based on his professional behavior that has come to light, I can’t say being an intensely dishonest prosecutor is that far removed, morally, from being a bitter racist, and much worse so if he is indeed both.

  25. #25 |  Goober | 

    What I want to know is this – if Lam is quite obviously dishonest enough to suggest framing an individual for a felony for political expediency, then I assume that they will go back through every case he tried to make sure he hasn’t done this before?

    Right?

    Guys? Right?

  26. #26 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    RE: Carlos Lam
    “Early this morning, the deputy contacted me from his home, admitted to me that he did send the email to Gov. Walker and tendered his resignation, which I have accepted.”

    Well, that’s progress.

    Regarding Carlos Lam being a “decent guy,” ok, whatever. Lots of people who abuse their power and influence are decent to their friends and family. And TJ Brown says, “Carlos is himself brown-skinned.” Well, apparently he is so interested in assimilating that he has condoned right-wing criminality. We have seen that before. And he’s a Right-Libertarian Paulite. Ok, well that’s better than an RNC “lets topple another regime” statist, but still not ideal. He still seems more than happy to frame those nasty ol’ union types and other “undesireables” to advance his agenda. Gee, at least he didn’t openly advocate a “Ludlow Massacre” scenario like they might have in the “good old days.”

    And Walker’s (and apparently Lam’s) agenda, as much as some commenters may hate to admit, is to comfort the powerful (powerful Republicans, members of the corporate executive class, etc) by dumping on those “evil” public employees. After all, if we can decimate the public employee unions, there will basically be NO unions, since private sector unions are increasingly far and few between. Yes, public employees “work for the taxpayer,” but day to day, they work for dick heads like Carlos Lam who despise their subordinates, just like managers in the private sector despise their subordinates. Don’t forget that! Governor Walker does not give a rat’s ass about the taxpayers. He is out to settle political scores by fucking with the unions. Notice that he made exemptions for police and fire unions (Untouchable; 9-11 and all…). Notice that he hasn’t suggested that scaling back the drug war or USG foreign intervention might be a good way to save taxpayer dollars. Nah, let’s just fuck with the teachers again! Fuck Carlos and fuck Walker. Let me know when these empty suits want to have a REAL discussion about helping out the taxpayers. Until then they are just Right-wing toadies as far as I am concerned.

  27. #27 |  MassHole | 

    T.J. Brown,

    Since I’m the one that wondered aloud whether he’s railroaded anyone, I’ll respond.

    This episode makes it clear that Mr. Lam views the ends as justifying the means, to the point of inciting violence. When caught, his first reaction was to concoct a ridiculous lie. If you think a person like this wouldn’t overlook a little perjury or fail to disclose a tidbit of exculpatory evidence to get his way, then you’re being naive. Potential racist tendencies aside, this guy is willing to lie and cheat. Couple that with seeking out a position to put people in prison and you have a recipe for abuse.

    Did you ever think maybe he’s been feeding you a line of bullshit too?

  28. #28 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Classic arcade game deaths.

    Wow. It’s like magic. After watching that, I feel an irresistible urge to commit mass murder.

  29. #29 |  T.J. Brown | 

    MassHole,

    I don’t know what to think. The first I heard of the story was today AFTER he resigned. I received an e-mail from his Hotmail account on Tuesday to his entire address list explaining that this account was hacked and that we should try contacting him on his Gmail account. So, in essence, he lied to me, so I guess there’s a line of bullshit I’ve been fed.

    Forgive me, but it’s hard for me to process.

  30. #30 |  Les | 

    T.J., my sympathies. I’ve never experienced a close friend doing something this dishonest and I know it must hurt. I highly recommend talking to Carlos about it, to your friends and family about it. Talking about it here probably isn’t going to make you feel any better, because this site is largely about people in power who abuse that power. It’s a given that those people are good and decent to their friends and loved ones.

  31. #31 |  Stormy Dragon | 

    It was an indecent act by a decent man

    Perhaps in the world of Neoconservative virtue ethics he remains a decent man. But I’m a deontologist–the men who perform indecent acts are by definition indecent men.

  32. #32 |  edmund dantes | 

    There’s a saying TJ: ” A person that is nice to you, but mean to the waiter is not a nice person.”

    Sorry.

  33. #33 |  Appletony | 

    Woah! Googling the trooper’s name reveals this sympathetic article:
    http://www.thecornerreport.com/index.php?p=207&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

    Radley, there may be more here than wanting to coerce a judge — this trooper won a whistleblower-type first amendment case that involved “State’s Attorney Frank Maco refus[ing] to sign the warrant” when the trooper was investigating an alleged rape of a young African American boy by two white boys. Maybe the trooper is just zealously on the side of what he perceives to be right — influenced particularly by the fact that he historically had to fight to regain his name and reputation.

  34. #34 |  Marty | 

    I’m with #32.

    The ‘false flag’ stuff freaks me out- the ‘false flags’ that have been confirmed are horrible, but there’s so much suspicion of different tragedies and this asshole is suggesting more of this nonsense…

  35. #35 |  albatross | 

    The false flag stuff is creepy, and if he really sent it (it sounds like he confessed, but I haven’t followed the story other than the linked article), losing his job and being disbarred sounds like the right answer.

    A twelve year old book review of an apparently rather unsavory book, by someone signing in with the same name, is nowhere in the same ballpark. How does the famous quote from Cardinal Richleau go? “If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.” People can be entirely decent human beings, while still having weird, even creepy ideas, various levels of bad taste in literature, etc.

    Assuming he’s normally a pretty decent person, it’s interesting to ask how he came to propose such a thing. Peoples’ moral intuitions (like their intuitions about what ideas are sensible and what are crazy) are largely driven by the people around them. Did he get so immersed in an echo chamber of partisan win-at-all-costs thinking that he stopped thinking about whether what he was proposing was right? Alternatively, is he one of those people who compartmentalizes his life, able to be a loving husband and father at home, and then go beat confessions out of suspects or order villages firebombed at work, with no apparent strain? Or is there some other explanation?

  36. #36 |  Buddy Hinton | 

    Famous Professor Orin Kerr thinks that warrants MUST be signed by the judge if there is probable cause and particularity.

    http://volokh.com/posts/1251311240.shtml

    He doesn’t seem to think that the warrant-signing-judge can consider “reasonableness” (although I think he believes that “reasonableness” is to be pretty much conclusively presumed once the warrant is signed).

  37. #37 |  MassHole | 

    T.J.

    I feel for you dude. I’ve had a couple of instances over the years where I’ve had to cut a trusted friend loose after they showed their true colors. I found it to be a gut punch similar to a romantic breakup. I think the worst part is the self doubt it creates around having trusted them in the first place. Good luck.

  38. #38 |  Highway | 

    It may not even be a case where someone ‘shows their true colors’ and has been deceiving for years. People change. Sometimes they change for the better. Other times they change for the worse. Because someone turns into a jerk doesn’t mean that your judgment was bad when you befriended them when they weren’t acting like a jerk, although frequently you can look back and see them turning into a jerk in hindsight.

  39. #39 |  tarran | 

    People do change. There used to be a discussion board called comofazer.net where I passionately advocated for the invasion of Iraq, and advanced some pretty reprehensible arguments.

    It was a speech by Badnarik, of all people, that was the short sharp shock that laid bare the immorality of my previous beliefs. Then I discovered Rothbard.

    People I debate could have lots of fun pulling up 8 year old postings by yours truly. However, that person is not the person I am now.

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