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Sunday, March 6th, 2011

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17 Responses to “Sunday Links”

  1. #1 |  Matt D | 

    As a Portland resident… yes.

  2. #2 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Florida may be illegally detaining motorists for using large bills.

    Guilty until proven innocent.

    I’m betting nothing will come of his class action suit because no one was beaten to a pulp on a publicly available video which is the threshold at which the government thinks it might have made a mistake and violated someone’s rights (completely in good faith, of course).

    Why is it that the people most ignorant of citizens’ right are the people who are supposed to be enforcing them? Is it a prerequisite that to get one of those jobs you have to be a complete fucking idiot?

  3. #3 |  Aresen | 

    AARRRrrrrrr came all the way from the back.

    Somehow, I think the other horses’ owners were saying his name at the end.

  4. #4 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Thankfully all the law enforcement abuse, idiocy, and utter incompetence that we see reported on theagitator is committed by a few bad apples. And it’s just an unfortunate shame that it reflects so badly on all the good upstanding police officers who cover for them.

  5. #5 |  Stephen | 

    The reddit thread was touching. It reminded me of this story that I read not too long ago. Not sure if it was here or another link that I reached on a page linked from here.

  6. #6 |  croaker | 

    Arrrrr: No pirate names in the pedigree going back 5 generations.

    Florida: Does EZ-Pass work in Florida? Sounds like this would be a great sales pitch for the device. “Want to pay tolls without dealing with surly toll takers who racially discriminate and like to call the cops on your ass? Get EZ-Pass!”

    New York: There appears to be a professionalism problem in all of New York law enforcement, all levels, all agencies. This is the state where a trooper in Troy ignored the cell phone law and arrested a ham radio operator for using his radio in his car. And was convicted.

    Oregon: TASERs are not being used for self defense short of a gun. It is a convenient instrument of compliance and torture and as such should be removed from the law enforcement inventory. The cops who did this should be prosecuted under whatever torture laws exist.

    Texas: The DA who did this should be doing the 18 years Graves got. And anyone else involved who managed to scam the jury. Too many bad apples are hiding behind immunity.

  7. #7 |  J.S. | 

    Ahh, the good ol’ PPB. When not tasering folks, they’re shooting them 30+ times (and bullets ending up a block away in a radio shack wall).

  8. #8 |  SJE | 

    Dave: the Florida guy who caught the DOT detaining people has, apparently,
    1. Lots of recorded footage
    2. A history of successfully suing Fla.
    It seems that the only thing that gets the government to notice is a lawsuit.

  9. #9 |  Seth Levy | 

    I don’t understand, the Florida thing was reported down here last year and now all of the sudden its everywhere. What changed between now and last summer?

  10. #10 |  croaker | 

    @9 Lots of videotape evidence.

  11. #11 |  Dave Krueger | 

    My comment wasn’t really about the video evidence so much as the magnitude of the crime. In order for an issue like this to be taken seriously, someone has to get seriously beaten. Everything below that threshold is just a minor inconvenience.

  12. #12 |  Flight 741 | 

    Portland does has a well-deserved reputation with police abuse. Pretty much the entire PDX metro area (and up into Vancouver, WA) is notorious for stuff like this. When I worked at a cell phone shop, we had a customer who was a former cop from Nevada, and when I asked him what his thoughts were on police militarization, he mentioned that he’s never seen anything like what we’ve got here in the Northwest. Pretty depressing stuff.

    The article on Florida toll roads: it’s all well and good that they’re getting the info out there, but damn Sam, that’s gotta be the sloppiest writing affiliated with a news agency that I’ve seen in a long time.

  13. #13 |  EH | 

    Well jeez, you ask an former cop what they think about “police militarization,” of course he’s going to tell you what you want to hear. At least wait until you get his real opinion of the police force. “You hang out with any of your brothers up here?”

  14. #14 |  EH | 

    Dave Krueger@2: Oh, I’m sure they’ll at least discipline the toll takers whose faces appear in the videos.

  15. #15 |  Flight 741 | 

    Actually, he volunteered his opinion of the police corruption on his own, otherwise I wouldn’t have bothered asking a cop about cops. The conversation started after he mentioned his old line of work, and my coworker, (nice guy, but) very pro-cop, talked about his friends in the Vancouver PD. I expected the whole cop hot for cops bullshit, but he really despised the fuzz up here. Definitely wasn’t looking to tell anyone what they wanted to hear.

  16. #16 |  Flight 714 | 

    Also: how did my handle switch from 714 to 741? Thanks, Opera browser.

  17. #17 |  freedomfan | 

    The Florida toll-takers demanding ID story has me especially interested because there is a similar thing going on here in California. Visiting San Francisco a couple months ago, I had a couple $100 bills with me and I had spent the last of my lower denomination bills buying gas. When crossing the $5 toll San Mateo bridge, I paid with a hundred and they made me wait while the toll worker got a pad with a little form on it, walked out of the booth, and wrote down my license plate number. Now, technically, perhaps they didn’t really make me wait, since I suppose I could have driven off without my change and I don’t know for sure that they actually would have come after me. But the choice at the time seemed like waiting or paying a $100 toll.

    Of course, I assume there is nothing I can do about this, since there are government cameras snapping people’s license plate numbers everywhere and this doesn’t seem much different. But, I was a little perturbed at the extra scrutiny when paying with legal currency and the knowledge that it’s very unlikely they would ever prove a counterfeiting case against anyone who actually knowingly paid with a fake hundred.

    BTW, to me, the best part of the story is that they have this intrusive procedure in place to combat counterfeiting and they have apparently never prosecuted anyone for that crime. This is a great example of how, even when there is potentially a problem motivating the policy, there is seldom reason to believe that the policy is actually fixing the problem.

    Dave Krueger notes

    My comment wasn’t really about the video evidence so much as the magnitude of the crime. In order for an issue like this to be taken seriously, someone has to get seriously beaten. Everything below that threshold is just a minor inconvenience.

    I would add that it’s not just the beating itself that’s important to the news folks; it’s the availability of compelling images. When there is someone crying at the hospital with a split lip and a swollen eye, then there is something to put on TV. When it’s just a couple guys unhappy about having to show ID, don’t expect much attention from the press.