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	<title>Comments on: This Week in Ad Hominem Attacks</title>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-721832</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People who describe themselves as &quot;left libertarian&quot; or &quot;libertarian socialists&quot; are either cynical propagandists trying to exploit the useful idiots who hear the word &quot;libertarian&quot; and think that&#039;s a good thing, or they are the useful idiots who don&#039;t have a clue what a silly oxymoron such terms are.  Self ownership is a fundamental tenet of libertarianism and it&#039;s absurd to try to combine that with a collectivist political philosophy which ultimately denies that you own your life (i.e., if the powers on high deem it so, you have innate obligations to &quot;the people&quot; or to &quot;society&quot; regardless of your choices, or that the needs of others outweigh your own rights).

At the same time, people who try to combine libertarianism with &quot;conservative&quot; policies (prohibition, anti-immigration, corporate cronyism, foreign interventions, government surveillance) run into similar problems.  And, if they&#039;re tossing about the term &quot;left libertarian&quot; to mean someone who is a principled libertarian, they aren&#039;t even using the term as the oxymoronically self-described &quot;left libertarians&quot; mean it.

Individualism doesn&#039;t fit on the archaic and stupid left/right continuum.  And, when people aren&#039;t trying to form some hybrid stupidity, I suspect that in many cases, the &quot;left&quot; or &quot;right&quot; biases among some self-described libertarians is a residual emotional tie to one&#039;s past, before becoming enlightened by individualism.  If you were a Democrat before becoming libertarian, then you may tend to overlook the faults of Democrats as they run afoul of individualist principles.  The same goes for Republican converts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who describe themselves as &#8220;left libertarian&#8221; or &#8220;libertarian socialists&#8221; are either cynical propagandists trying to exploit the useful idiots who hear the word &#8220;libertarian&#8221; and think that&#8217;s a good thing, or they are the useful idiots who don&#8217;t have a clue what a silly oxymoron such terms are.  Self ownership is a fundamental tenet of libertarianism and it&#8217;s absurd to try to combine that with a collectivist political philosophy which ultimately denies that you own your life (i.e., if the powers on high deem it so, you have innate obligations to &#8220;the people&#8221; or to &#8220;society&#8221; regardless of your choices, or that the needs of others outweigh your own rights).</p>
<p>At the same time, people who try to combine libertarianism with &#8220;conservative&#8221; policies (prohibition, anti-immigration, corporate cronyism, foreign interventions, government surveillance) run into similar problems.  And, if they&#8217;re tossing about the term &#8220;left libertarian&#8221; to mean someone who is a principled libertarian, they aren&#8217;t even using the term as the oxymoronically self-described &#8220;left libertarians&#8221; mean it.</p>
<p>Individualism doesn&#8217;t fit on the archaic and stupid left/right continuum.  And, when people aren&#8217;t trying to form some hybrid stupidity, I suspect that in many cases, the &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;right&#8221; biases among some self-described libertarians is a residual emotional tie to one&#8217;s past, before becoming enlightened by individualism.  If you were a Democrat before becoming libertarian, then you may tend to overlook the faults of Democrats as they run afoul of individualist principles.  The same goes for Republican converts.</p>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-721392</link>
		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The paleos and Mises Institute folks were hatin&#039; on the Kochs since way before it was cool.

And of course, these are the people who always used to collectively deride the &quot;left-libertarians&quot; at &lt;i&gt;Reason&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;etc.&lt;/i&gt; Politics and strange bedfellows and all that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paleos and Mises Institute folks were hatin&#8217; on the Kochs since way before it was cool.</p>
<p>And of course, these are the people who always used to collectively deride the &#8220;left-libertarians&#8221; at <i>Reason</i>, <i>etc.</i> Politics and strange bedfellows and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: KochSister</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-716249</link>
		<dc:creator>KochSister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;there are major libertarian figures who can’t freakin’ stand the Kochs?&quot;

Not at Reason, there isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there are major libertarian figures who can’t freakin’ stand the Kochs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at Reason, there isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: b-psycho</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-715855</link>
		<dc:creator>b-psycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I just say how odd it is that libertarianism is being painted as a lock-step Koch money conspiracy when there are major libertarian figures who can&#039;t freakin&#039; stand the Kochs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say how odd it is that libertarianism is being painted as a lock-step Koch money conspiracy when there are major libertarian figures who can&#8217;t freakin&#8217; stand the Kochs?</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-715160</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;But if an individual mandate is an unconstitutional step on the way to a fascist state, why was Reason allowing anyone to advocate for it in the first place? &lt;/em&gt;

Because Ron is a full-time staffer who is allowed to have his own opinions. Reason is a magazine of ideas. Which means sometimes some writers will have different ideas. 

And show me where anyone at Reason said the mandate is a step on the way to a fascist state. It&#039;s troubling to think the government can force you to buy something from a private company. But no one at Reason has suggested is fascism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But if an individual mandate is an unconstitutional step on the way to a fascist state, why was Reason allowing anyone to advocate for it in the first place? </em></p>
<p>Because Ron is a full-time staffer who is allowed to have his own opinions. Reason is a magazine of ideas. Which means sometimes some writers will have different ideas. </p>
<p>And show me where anyone at Reason said the mandate is a step on the way to a fascist state. It&#8217;s troubling to think the government can force you to buy something from a private company. But no one at Reason has suggested is fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-715137</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Reason was for the individual mandate before it were against it.&lt;/em&gt;

This simply isn&#039;t true. One Reason writer favored a mandate as part of his overall idea on healthcare reform. This isn&#039;t difficult to understand. Reason isn&#039;t monolithic. We don&#039;t publish unsigned editorials. Different writers can and do have different opinions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Reason was for the individual mandate before it were against it.</em></p>
<p>This simply isn&#8217;t true. One Reason writer favored a mandate as part of his overall idea on healthcare reform. This isn&#8217;t difficult to understand. Reason isn&#8217;t monolithic. We don&#8217;t publish unsigned editorials. Different writers can and do have different opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel MaHarry</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-715083</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel MaHarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James (#20), I believe you are correct. Balko and Bailey manage to both generate lots of noisy indignation, but obviously they&#039;re trying to distract from the central point — Reason was for the individual mandate before it were against it. 
As for the headline, it&#039;s just inaccurate. Chait eviscerated Bailey over the &quot;Reason&quot; writer&#039;s hypocrisy. Bailey&#039;s character was never at issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James (#20), I believe you are correct. Balko and Bailey manage to both generate lots of noisy indignation, but obviously they&#8217;re trying to distract from the central point — Reason was for the individual mandate before it were against it.<br />
As for the headline, it&#8217;s just inaccurate. Chait eviscerated Bailey over the &#8220;Reason&#8221; writer&#8217;s hypocrisy. Bailey&#8217;s character was never at issue.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hare</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-714921</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But if an individual mandate is an unconstitutional step on the way to a fascist state, why was Reason allowing anyone to advocate for it in the first place?   The lady doth protest too much, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if an individual mandate is an unconstitutional step on the way to a fascist state, why was Reason allowing anyone to advocate for it in the first place?   The lady doth protest too much, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in CT</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-714569</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blue/Red captures something like 99% of the politics in this country.  Thus, if you&#039;re Blue and somebody disagrees with you, he/she must be Red.  MUST BE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue/Red captures something like 99% of the politics in this country.  Thus, if you&#8217;re Blue and somebody disagrees with you, he/she must be Red.  MUST BE!</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-712317</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[t1...I don&#039;t even...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t1&#8230;I don&#8217;t even&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Nieporent</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-711739</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a simple explanation: Jonathan Chait is a hack.  

He wrote a piece criticizing Judge Vinson&#039;s decision in the Obamacare case; in the piece, he mocked Vinson for concluding that the mandate could not be deemed a tax.  His argument was that this was a &quot;transparently result-driven ideological polemic&quot; because no reasonable person could accept this conclusion.  Apparently Chait didn&#039;t realize that every single judge to issue an opinion on Obamacare, including the Democratic-appointed judges who upheld Obamacare, rejected the &quot;tax&quot; argument.

(Note to some: this is an insult, not an ad hominem.  I am not saying that Chait&#039;s arguments are wrong _because_ he&#039;s a hack.  I am just calling him a hack.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a simple explanation: Jonathan Chait is a hack.  </p>
<p>He wrote a piece criticizing Judge Vinson&#8217;s decision in the Obamacare case; in the piece, he mocked Vinson for concluding that the mandate could not be deemed a tax.  His argument was that this was a &#8220;transparently result-driven ideological polemic&#8221; because no reasonable person could accept this conclusion.  Apparently Chait didn&#8217;t realize that every single judge to issue an opinion on Obamacare, including the Democratic-appointed judges who upheld Obamacare, rejected the &#8220;tax&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>(Note to some: this is an insult, not an ad hominem.  I am not saying that Chait&#8217;s arguments are wrong _because_ he&#8217;s a hack.  I am just calling him a hack.)</p>
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		<title>By: Episiarch</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-711018</link>
		<dc:creator>Episiarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Noting that someone has previously advocated a position they now criticize is not an ad hominem attack.&lt;/i&gt;

Mendacious, or just stupid?  Which is t1?  I&#039;m going with both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Noting that someone has previously advocated a position they now criticize is not an ad hominem attack.</i></p>
<p>Mendacious, or just stupid?  Which is t1?  I&#8217;m going with both.</p>
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		<title>By: t1</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-710903</link>
		<dc:creator>t1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One example:  &quot;So yesterday, Chait again went after Bailey, this time mocking libertarians in general because one of our own, Bailey, once wrote an article that advocated an individual health insurance mandate.&quot;

Noting that someone has previously advocated a position they now criticize  is not an ad hominem attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One example:  &#8220;So yesterday, Chait again went after Bailey, this time mocking libertarians in general because one of our own, Bailey, once wrote an article that advocated an individual health insurance mandate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Noting that someone has previously advocated a position they now criticize  is not an ad hominem attack.</p>
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		<title>By: MPH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-710684</link>
		<dc:creator>MPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley, say it isn&#039;t so!  You haven&#039;t drunk the AGW cool-aid, have you?  I suggest visiting the site http://junkscience.com/, written by Steven Milloy, the scientist who wrote the book Junk Science Judo.  He explains, in great, gory, scientifically repeatable detail, why AGW alarmism is pure, 100% BS, here: http://junkscience.com/climate-features/.  There&#039;s a lot of info here, but here&#039;s my (possibly imperfect) recollection of the upshot.  

First, a clarification.  Greenhouses work by preventing convective cooling.  The &quot;greenhouse effect&quot; of gasses in the atmosphere do not prevent convection, they absorb infrared radiation, warming the atmosphere rather than allowing the radiation to escape to space.  Convective cooling still occurs in the atmosphere.

If the atmosphere were totally transparent to infrared radiation, the &quot;planetary average annual surface temperature&quot; (PAAST) would be 0 degrees F.  Instead, it is 59 degrees F.  He then goes on to explain how much of that 59 degrees is due to what gasses (something like 56 degrees are due to water vapor from evaporation from the oceans - something we can&#039;t effect if we tried).  The amount attributable to mankind&#039;s emissions is 0.28 degrees F.

So if mankind had emitted NO, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, &quot;greenhouse&quot; gases so far in all of history, the PAAST would be 58.72 degrees F.

In other words, don&#039;t lose any sleep over this (non)problem.  

He also has information on whether being warmer would actually be &quot;bad&quot;.  It&#039;s a good site, well researched, and I highly recommend it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley, say it isn&#8217;t so!  You haven&#8217;t drunk the AGW cool-aid, have you?  I suggest visiting the site <a href="http://junkscience.com/" rel="nofollow">http://junkscience.com/</a>, written by Steven Milloy, the scientist who wrote the book Junk Science Judo.  He explains, in great, gory, scientifically repeatable detail, why AGW alarmism is pure, 100% BS, here: <a href="http://junkscience.com/climate-features/" rel="nofollow">http://junkscience.com/climate-features/</a>.  There&#8217;s a lot of info here, but here&#8217;s my (possibly imperfect) recollection of the upshot.  </p>
<p>First, a clarification.  Greenhouses work by preventing convective cooling.  The &#8220;greenhouse effect&#8221; of gasses in the atmosphere do not prevent convection, they absorb infrared radiation, warming the atmosphere rather than allowing the radiation to escape to space.  Convective cooling still occurs in the atmosphere.</p>
<p>If the atmosphere were totally transparent to infrared radiation, the &#8220;planetary average annual surface temperature&#8221; (PAAST) would be 0 degrees F.  Instead, it is 59 degrees F.  He then goes on to explain how much of that 59 degrees is due to what gasses (something like 56 degrees are due to water vapor from evaporation from the oceans &#8211; something we can&#8217;t effect if we tried).  The amount attributable to mankind&#8217;s emissions is 0.28 degrees F.</p>
<p>So if mankind had emitted NO, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, &#8220;greenhouse&#8221; gases so far in all of history, the PAAST would be 58.72 degrees F.</p>
<p>In other words, don&#8217;t lose any sleep over this (non)problem.  </p>
<p>He also has information on whether being warmer would actually be &#8220;bad&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a good site, well researched, and I highly recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-709479</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, there is Anthropomorphic Global Warming (AGW).  CO2 emissions do increase the greenhouse gas effect.  But the alarmists predict catastrophic warming (CAGW) far in excess of what one would expect from CO2 alone.  Warren Meyer has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2010/01/catastrophe-denied-the-science-of-the-skeptics-position.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;video presentation&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/table-of-conten.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;layman&#039;s guide&lt;/a&gt; explaining some of the faults with the alarmist claims.

The thing is, even if the CAGW claims are true, short of reverting civilization back a couple centuries, there&#039;s no way to make a difference.  All the &quot;green&quot; initiatives will make next to no difference whatsoever, without completely destroying much of human industry.

So, the people trying to organize carbon markets are essentially snake oil salesmen, trying to make a profit off of fear, without doing anything substantive to solve the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is Anthropomorphic Global Warming (AGW).  CO2 emissions do increase the greenhouse gas effect.  But the alarmists predict catastrophic warming (CAGW) far in excess of what one would expect from CO2 alone.  Warren Meyer has a <a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2010/01/catastrophe-denied-the-science-of-the-skeptics-position.html" rel="nofollow">video presentation</a> and <a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/table-of-conten.html" rel="nofollow">layman&#8217;s guide</a> explaining some of the faults with the alarmist claims.</p>
<p>The thing is, even if the CAGW claims are true, short of reverting civilization back a couple centuries, there&#8217;s no way to make a difference.  All the &#8220;green&#8221; initiatives will make next to no difference whatsoever, without completely destroying much of human industry.</p>
<p>So, the people trying to organize carbon markets are essentially snake oil salesmen, trying to make a profit off of fear, without doing anything substantive to solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-709193</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;“Ad hominem” doesn’t mean what you think it does.&lt;/em&gt;

Well by all means, then. Educate me!

Explain to me how attacking someone based on where they get their funding doesn&#039;t qualify as an ad hominem attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Ad hominem” doesn’t mean what you think it does.</em></p>
<p>Well by all means, then. Educate me!</p>
<p>Explain to me how attacking someone based on where they get their funding doesn&#8217;t qualify as an ad hominem attack.</p>
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		<title>By: shecky</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-708884</link>
		<dc:creator>shecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The rest voted for Barr, or didn’t vote at all.&lt;/i&gt;

ughh... Radley, you shoulda quit while you&#039;re ahead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The rest voted for Barr, or didn’t vote at all.</i></p>
<p>ughh&#8230; Radley, you shoulda quit while you&#8217;re ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: t1</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-708847</link>
		<dc:creator>t1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ad hominem&quot; doesn&#039;t mean what you think it does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ad hominem&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean what you think it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Roth</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-708840</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The people making a scandal out of the House Cafeteria story are either uninformed or useless, paranoid partisan twits. On second thought, more likely both. That combination is pervasive in Washington.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people making a scandal out of the House Cafeteria story are either uninformed or useless, paranoid partisan twits. On second thought, more likely both. That combination is pervasive in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Roth</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/03/05/this-week-in-ad-hominem-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-708819</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weekend Edition had a report on the House Cafeteria story this morning that made the switch to styrofoam sound pretty reasonable. It seems that the old biodegradable dishes and silverware just weren&#039;t working: they were disintegrating, bending with the slightest torque, allowing hot soup to leak through, etc. My guess is that the House Democrats got impatient and procured crappy products in a rush to be environmentally correct, so I&#039;d say the Republicans are smart to return to products that are tested and reliable. The report mentioned that the House is looking into adopting washable silverware, too, so I really don&#039;t think the GOP is acting out of environmental malice. 

I consider the solid waste stream a serious environmental problem, by the way. Styrofoam and similar products are an environmental disaster that should be avoided when possible. Biodegradable alternatives, however, are often pat non-solutions. A lot of materials that are easily decomposed in ideal conditions fester for decades in hypoxic zones in landfills. Then, when they do start decomposing, they produce large quantities of methane and acidic leachate that are very difficult and expensive to capture. Some Ancient Roman landfills are still discharging leachate, so biodegradables are a gift that keeps on giving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weekend Edition had a report on the House Cafeteria story this morning that made the switch to styrofoam sound pretty reasonable. It seems that the old biodegradable dishes and silverware just weren&#8217;t working: they were disintegrating, bending with the slightest torque, allowing hot soup to leak through, etc. My guess is that the House Democrats got impatient and procured crappy products in a rush to be environmentally correct, so I&#8217;d say the Republicans are smart to return to products that are tested and reliable. The report mentioned that the House is looking into adopting washable silverware, too, so I really don&#8217;t think the GOP is acting out of environmental malice. </p>
<p>I consider the solid waste stream a serious environmental problem, by the way. Styrofoam and similar products are an environmental disaster that should be avoided when possible. Biodegradable alternatives, however, are often pat non-solutions. A lot of materials that are easily decomposed in ideal conditions fester for decades in hypoxic zones in landfills. Then, when they do start decomposing, they produce large quantities of methane and acidic leachate that are very difficult and expensive to capture. Some Ancient Roman landfills are still discharging leachate, so biodegradables are a gift that keeps on giving.</p>
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