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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-659468</link>
		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are also plenty of libertarians who have no problem with polygamy but see pedophilia as necessarily criminal (because consent is not possible). Maybe they&#039;re right about that, maybe not, but I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s necessarily an intellectually dishonest distinction.

It also should be noted that not everything that libertarians think should be legal is morally equivalent or even non-blameworthy. Libertarians might say that providing an orphan with a loving, stable home, and driving a distraught person to suicide with ceaseless verbal abuse, should be equally legal; but there&#039;s no reason for a libertarian to claim that they are otherwise morally equal - that the former is not really praiseworthy while the latter is not really blameworthy, &lt;i&gt;etc.&lt;/i&gt; Of course, some libertarians might well claim that (perhaps out of a misguided urge to seem extreme or masculine or &quot;rational&quot; or whatever), but it&#039;s neither a libertarian principle nor a reasonably derived conclusion thereof. And so libertarians (and others) who hold that, say, pedophilia should be legal, but also think that it is necessarily exploitative or otherwise deeply morally wrong, are being perfectly consistent in objecting to theocrats who rely on associating it with homosexuality in their efforts to marginalize and persecute homosexuals (legally and otherwise). Maybe they&#039;re &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt;, but they&#039;re not being inconsistent, except in the trite and uninteresting sense that any incorrect belief is inconsistent with The Universe And Everything (And A Complete System Of Correct Beliefs About It).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also plenty of libertarians who have no problem with polygamy but see pedophilia as necessarily criminal (because consent is not possible). Maybe they&#8217;re right about that, maybe not, but I don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s necessarily an intellectually dishonest distinction.</p>
<p>It also should be noted that not everything that libertarians think should be legal is morally equivalent or even non-blameworthy. Libertarians might say that providing an orphan with a loving, stable home, and driving a distraught person to suicide with ceaseless verbal abuse, should be equally legal; but there&#8217;s no reason for a libertarian to claim that they are otherwise morally equal &#8211; that the former is not really praiseworthy while the latter is not really blameworthy, <i>etc.</i> Of course, some libertarians might well claim that (perhaps out of a misguided urge to seem extreme or masculine or &#8220;rational&#8221; or whatever), but it&#8217;s neither a libertarian principle nor a reasonably derived conclusion thereof. And so libertarians (and others) who hold that, say, pedophilia should be legal, but also think that it is necessarily exploitative or otherwise deeply morally wrong, are being perfectly consistent in objecting to theocrats who rely on associating it with homosexuality in their efforts to marginalize and persecute homosexuals (legally and otherwise). Maybe they&#8217;re <i>wrong</i>, but they&#8217;re not being inconsistent, except in the trite and uninteresting sense that any incorrect belief is inconsistent with The Universe And Everything (And A Complete System Of Correct Beliefs About It).</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-657486</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The guy thinks there should be laws preventing gay people from having sex in their own homes, and likens homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality.&quot;

Santorum said that if courts ruled that homosexuality acts and gay marriage could not be banned on a strict application of consent, then the same logic would inexorably argue against banning polygamy, pedophilia, and bestiality.  I disagree with him on policy, but as a matter

I know plenty of libertarians who will defend the idea, at least hypothetically, of legalizing consensual polygamy and pedophilia from logical first principles of the government not banning consenting acts, but then get all huffy when some conservative argues that the strict application of logical first principles of not banning consenting acts overturning existing laws would lead to overturning laws against polygamy and pedophilia.

In the normative matter, I disagree with him.  But he&#039;s more intellectually honest than Balko, apparently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The guy thinks there should be laws preventing gay people from having sex in their own homes, and likens homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Santorum said that if courts ruled that homosexuality acts and gay marriage could not be banned on a strict application of consent, then the same logic would inexorably argue against banning polygamy, pedophilia, and bestiality.  I disagree with him on policy, but as a matter</p>
<p>I know plenty of libertarians who will defend the idea, at least hypothetically, of legalizing consensual polygamy and pedophilia from logical first principles of the government not banning consenting acts, but then get all huffy when some conservative argues that the strict application of logical first principles of not banning consenting acts overturning existing laws would lead to overturning laws against polygamy and pedophilia.</p>
<p>In the normative matter, I disagree with him.  But he&#8217;s more intellectually honest than Balko, apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Big A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-655234</link>
		<dc:creator>Big A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loved the santorum bit (no need to capitalize a non-proper noun, right?). +1 to Dan Savage. He manages to step on the big slime preventing LGBT rights and encourage the younger LGBT community to avoid the little slimes at their high schools etc, all while remaining hilarious for everyone. If only the people actually making our laws could be this cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the santorum bit (no need to capitalize a non-proper noun, right?). +1 to Dan Savage. He manages to step on the big slime preventing LGBT rights and encourage the younger LGBT community to avoid the little slimes at their high schools etc, all while remaining hilarious for everyone. If only the people actually making our laws could be this cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Somehow, 2,000 red light tickets were recently verified with the signature of a police officer who is dead.&quot;

Haven&#039;t you heard of ghost writers? He has a similar job as ghost signer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Somehow, 2,000 red light tickets were recently verified with the signature of a police officer who is dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t you heard of ghost writers? He has a similar job as ghost signer.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-655173</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the Baltimore story of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&amp;id=56771&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thousand of red-light camera tickets &quot;reviewed&quot; by a dead officer&lt;/a&gt;: I thought this quote really sums up what&#039;s at stake:
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The city&#039;s red light cameras are a reliable revenue source. In January alone, about 9,300 red light citations were mailed to drivers trying to beat the lights, [WBAL-TV reporter] Miller reported.

The citations cost violators about $75.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah. Safety? Justice? Whatever...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Baltimore story of the <a href="http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&amp;id=56771" rel="nofollow">thousand of red-light camera tickets &#8220;reviewed&#8221; by a dead officer</a>: I thought this quote really sums up what&#8217;s at stake:</p>
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The city&#8217;s red light cameras are a reliable revenue source. In January alone, about 9,300 red light citations were mailed to drivers trying to beat the lights, [WBAL-TV reporter] Miller reported.</p>
<p>The citations cost violators about $75.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah. Safety? Justice? Whatever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
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		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An Evening with the Joe&#039;s [sic]

An idiot, an asshole and a loser.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Evening with the Joe&#8217;s [sic]</p>
<p>An idiot, an asshole and a loser.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Plumber was the only Joe I recognized at first, but when I realized who the others were, I was floored. A three-in-one night of unadulterated Republican crazy. I wouldn&#039;t have believed it if I hadn&#039;t seen it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Plumber was the only Joe I recognized at first, but when I realized who the others were, I was floored. A three-in-one night of unadulterated Republican crazy. I wouldn&#8217;t have believed it if I hadn&#8217;t seen it.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Santorum definition: 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.

www.spreadingsantorum.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santorum definition: 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spreadingsantorum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.spreadingsantorum.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: raidsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-654861</link>
		<dc:creator>raidsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The money quote from the Santorum story:  &quot;Where&#039;s Rachel Maddow on this?&quot;

Maybe she was too busy enjoying some Maddow-on-dog action to defend Rick. Freakin. Santorum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money quote from the Santorum story:  &#8220;Where&#8217;s Rachel Maddow on this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe she was too busy enjoying some Maddow-on-dog action to defend Rick. Freakin. Santorum.</p>
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		<title>By: albatross</title>
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		<dc:creator>albatross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yizmo:

I wonder if the same Baltimore cop was moonlighting at one of the &quot;document recovery services&quot; used by foreclosure mills....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yizmo:</p>
<p>I wonder if the same Baltimore cop was moonlighting at one of the &#8220;document recovery services&#8221; used by foreclosure mills&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hummel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;. Somehow, 2,000 red light tickets were recently verified with the signature of a police officer who is dead.&quot;

So if the dept has the name of the officer who actually reviewed the images, how come his signature is not on the tickets? I assume it was some kind of scanned signature image. Can one officer log onto the system with another one&#039;s login? Doesn&#039;t the system generate the tickets under the reviewing officer&#039;s name? Or is it common practice to have a standard signature and have images be reviewed by different officers? Will that ticket stand up in a court of law? Ah, questions, questions....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;. Somehow, 2,000 red light tickets were recently verified with the signature of a police officer who is dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if the dept has the name of the officer who actually reviewed the images, how come his signature is not on the tickets? I assume it was some kind of scanned signature image. Can one officer log onto the system with another one&#8217;s login? Doesn&#8217;t the system generate the tickets under the reviewing officer&#8217;s name? Or is it common practice to have a standard signature and have images be reviewed by different officers? Will that ticket stand up in a court of law? Ah, questions, questions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hummel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: &quot;Scottish Deerhound wins Best in Show at Westminster&quot; The handler looks pretty hot too...

&quot;Evening with the Joe&#039;s&quot; They spelled &quot;Joes&quot; wrong. Then again, close to where I live there&#039;s a farm and a huge billboard advertises &quot;Trail ride&#039;s&quot;. So I guess that&#039;s how plural&#039;s of English noun&#039;s are spelled these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;Scottish Deerhound wins Best in Show at Westminster&#8221; The handler looks pretty hot too&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Evening with the Joe&#8217;s&#8221; They spelled &#8220;Joes&#8221; wrong. Then again, close to where I live there&#8217;s a farm and a huge billboard advertises &#8220;Trail ride&#8217;s&#8221;. So I guess that&#8217;s how plural&#8217;s of English noun&#8217;s are spelled these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-654250</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Santorum doth protest too much.  $100 riding on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santorum doth protest too much.  $100 riding on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, I always thought a &quot;santorum&quot; was what I leave in the toilet first thing every morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I always thought a &#8220;santorum&#8221; was what I leave in the toilet first thing every morning.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scottish Deerhounds and similar breeds almost died out during WWII because food shortages were so great that it was hard to feed these large dogs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottish Deerhounds and similar breeds almost died out during WWII because food shortages were so great that it was hard to feed these large dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Psion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me: &quot;... or was he simply *asking* where the ...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me: &#8220;&#8230; or was he simply *asking* where the &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Psion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was Santorum equating homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia, or was he simply where the social acceptability line was drawn? I have no fondness for the guy, but that whole business surrounding his remarks on homosexuality always struck me as deliberately misconstrued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Santorum equating homosexuality with bestiality and pedophilia, or was he simply where the social acceptability line was drawn? I have no fondness for the guy, but that whole business surrounding his remarks on homosexuality always struck me as deliberately misconstrued.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Santorum&#8217;s Google Problem = Google&#8217;s Rick Santorum Problem</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/02/16/morning-links-450/comment-page-1/#comment-654134</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Santorum&#8217;s Google Problem = Google&#8217;s Rick Santorum Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] my instinctive reaction is similar to Radley Balko&#8216;s:  &#8221;I like that his defenders are appealing to civility. The guy thinks there should [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my instinctive reaction is similar to Radley Balko&#8216;s:  &#8221;I like that his defenders are appealing to civility. The guy thinks there should [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry, Joe Arpaio and the gang are fighting for &quot;smaller government&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Joe Arpaio and the gang are fighting for &#8220;smaller government&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: André</title>
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		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Anthrax

A lot of the stuff about him and wikipedia/sororities was pretty creepy, though; I read the partially redacted smoking gun report and it seemed the circumstantial evidence was pretty strong Ivins was oddly obsessed with the sorority.

&quot;During the next seven years, the task force expended more than 600,000 investigator work hours, interviewing thousands of witnesses on six continents and evaluating a mountain of evidence. In the end, however, the agency&#039;s case against Ivins was largely circumstantial.&quot;

Just for perspective, that&#039;s 288 years of 40 hour work weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Anthrax</p>
<p>A lot of the stuff about him and wikipedia/sororities was pretty creepy, though; I read the partially redacted smoking gun report and it seemed the circumstantial evidence was pretty strong Ivins was oddly obsessed with the sorority.</p>
<p>&#8220;During the next seven years, the task force expended more than 600,000 investigator work hours, interviewing thousands of witnesses on six continents and evaluating a mountain of evidence. In the end, however, the agency&#8217;s case against Ivins was largely circumstantial.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just for perspective, that&#8217;s 288 years of 40 hour work weeks.</p>
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