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Saturday, February 5th, 2011
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  1. #1 |  Marty | 

    at least the guy’s car and home were destroyed- otherwise, he would’ve lost it to asset forfeiture. what a crappy day!

  2. #2 |  omar | 

    I think the governor of North Carolina is Beverly Perdue. Sonny Perdue was our idiot governor in Georgia. I’ll make an assumption that Bev is also an idiot.

  3. #3 |  Marty | 

    one of the items that stood out in the ny times’ journalists story- they were stopped at a checkpoint. that’s the sole reason they were detained- made me think about all the checkpoints here and the stories of abuse. we’re nowhere near Egypt in scale of abuse, but… the mechanisms are in place.
    hopefully, they’re safe and there’s as peaceful outcome as possible to the turmoil they’re reporting on.

  4. #4 |  Steve S. | 

    I can confirm as an NC resident that Bev Perdue is an idiot. The only reason she was elected was due to a straight-ticket sweep that elected Obama.

    However, that year also had one of the most cogent Libertarian candidates I’d ever seen run – Michael Munger, chair of the Duke Political Science department, who was also running for governor. Completely mopped the floor with the other two during the debates in which they actually allowed him to participate. I would keep an eye on him.

  5. #5 |  Mattocracy | 

    As a metro Atlanta resident, I can attest that the police here don’t care about rights. They’re too pissed off about their fruitless efforts to combat drugs to give a shit about rights. Also too pissed off that everyone thinks they’re a bunch of thugs to stop perpetuating the stereotype.

  6. #6 |  Michael | 

    I’ll have sympathy for the New York Times reporters when they return to “All the news that’s fit to print.”

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  8. #8 |  Max | 

    Also a NC resident, can also confirm it’s Bev. Also that she’s a moron and also that Munger is an extremely interesting guy. Hard to imagine you haven’t already heard of him, Balko, but if you haven’t I hope you’ll look him up.

  9. #9 |  buzz | 

    Oh, well if Media Matters says that in a edited one minute clip then clearly Limbaugh is a jackass. How do you feel about edited short clips goring any of your oxes?

  10. #10 |  Michael | 

    I think North Carolina doesn’t want in to get out the taking just a few classes at a community college is all that is needed to be a traffic engineer.

  11. #11 |  warren_piece | 

    the “math without a license” story is a great example of why we need comic sans. im pretty sure that if comic sans were used in the presentation of the offending data there would be no argument.

  12. #12 |  Aaron | 

    Michael, you too are a jackass. Even if the editorial decisions of the Times were indefensible, the reporters, who don’t set editorial policy, don’t deserve to be treated as they were. No one does. (Nor the worse ways many others are being treated in Egypt.)

  13. #13 |  c andrew | 

    According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, over the period we were held there were 30 detentions of journalists, 26 assaults and 8 instances of equipment being seized.

    Just curiious about how this compares, numbers-wise with nationwide incidences of our domestic police with citizen-journalists? I don’t think that the abuse domestically is generally as egregious or as dangerous as what’s going on in Egypt, but I think I can make the argument that if we don’t hold the cops accountable by all means possible and in all available forums, then our domestic cops will continue to move in the direction of a police state.

  14. #14 |  Doug | 

    Referencing anything Media Matters says is dangerous at best. Maybe if one could find the entire clip . . . .
    I’m kinda confused, though. In that clip, Limbaugh did say he wouldn’t wish that treatment on anyone. So, what was the problem?

    Media Matters: Because why listen to an entire show when we can take quotes out of context for you!

  15. #15 |  MDGuy | 

    The comparative statistics on crime among LEOs vs. the general population from the Packman post are even more stunning when you consider how often police get away with crimes that would send ordinary people to the penitentiary. The statistics only count officers convicted of crimes; the Jonathan Ayers and Sal Culosis of the world aren’t even included. Given the lack of accountability we’ve seen just about everywhere in U.S. police departments it’s no wonder criminal activity among police is more prevalent than the general population.

  16. #16 |  Michael | 

    Come on Aaron. This is the government we backed and used under Clinton to question suspected terrorist. We reap what we have sowed.

  17. #17 |  Anthony | 

    Munger apparently believes libertarianism happens to people too.
    On the topic of annexation:
    “Perhaps I should thank NC cities, and the League of Municipalities. They are creating more new Libertarians every day than I ever could”

  18. #18 |  Waste93 | 

    As others have already said, take what Media Matters with a grain of salt. Getting a transcript of the Limbaugh show shouldn’t be overly difficult. One thing Limbaugh likes to do is demonstrate the absurd by being absurd. So it’s easy to edit a small clip to make it appear he is saying something he isn’t.

  19. #19 |  Episiarch | 

    Shorter TEAM RED: if it comes from a TEAM BLUE source, we can ignore it, no matter what was said! Yay!

  20. #20 |  claude | 

    “Shorter TEAM RED: if it comes from a TEAM BLUE source, we can ignore it, no matter what was said! Yay!”

    +1

  21. #21 |  Les | 

    This is the government we backed and used under Clinton to question suspected terrorist. We reap what we have sowed.

    Also it was backed and used in a variety of bad ways under Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. Why just mention Clinton?

    And what, exactly did those particular reporters “sow” that justifies their current treatment by Egypt?

  22. #22 |  Aresen | 

    On the “engineering/math without a license” story, the only conclusion I can draw about politicians and political appointees is that they are too stupid and innumerate to be able to concieve that someone might know mathematics without having a degree to prove it.

  23. #23 |  Aresen | 

    And while we are on the subject of mathematics….

    Once upon a time, pretty Polly Nomial was skipping through a field of vectors when she came to the edge of a singularly large matrix. Now Polly was convergent, and her mother had made it an absolute condition that she never entered such an array without her brackets on. But Polly had changed her variables that morning and had been feeling particularly badly behaved, she ignored her mothers’s condition on the grounds that it was insufficient, and made her way in among the complex elements.
    Rows and columns enveloped her on all sides. Tangents approached her surface. She grew tensor and tensor. Quite suddenly, three branches of a hyperbola touched her at a single point, she oscillated wildly and lost all sense of directrix. She tripped over a square root protruding from the erf, and tumbled headlong down a steep gradient. When she was once again in possesion of her variables, she found herself apparently in a non-euclidean space. She was being watched, however: that smooth operator, Curly Pi, was lurking inner product. As his eyes devoured her curvilinear coordinates, a singular expression crossed his face. Was she convergent? He wondered. He decided to integrate improperly at once. Hearing an improper fraction behind her, Polly rotated and saw Curly approaching with his power series extrapolated. She could tell at once from his degenerate conic and his dissipative terms that he was bent to no good.
    “Eureka!” she gasped.
    “Ho, ho,” said our operator. “What a symetric little asymptote you have. I bet your angles are just dripping with secs.”
    “Stay away from me!” she said. “I haven’t got my brackets on.”
    “Calm yourself, my dear,” he said. “Your fears are purely imaginary.”
    “I, I,” she thought, “Maybe he’s not normal..Maybe he’s even a homomorphism.”
    “What order are you?” the brute demanded.
    “Seventeen,” she replied.
    Curly leered. “Enough of this idle chatter. Lets go to a decimal place I know, and I’ll take you to the limit.”
    “Never!” she gasped.
    “Arcsinh!!!” He swore the vilest oath he knew. Coshing her over the coefficient with a log until she was powerless, Curly removed her discontinuities. He stared at her significant places and began smoothing out her points of inflection. Poor Polly. She could feel his hand tending towards her asymptotic limit. The algorithmic method was now her only hope. Her convergence would soon be gone forever.
    Curly’s radius squared itself. Polly’s loci quivered. He intergrated by parts. He intergrated by partial fractions.The complex beast even went all the way around and did a contour intergration. Curly went on operating until he was completely and totally exhausted of all his primitive roots.
    When Polly arrived home that night, her mother noticed that she had been truncated in several places. But it was too late to differentiate now. Nine transformations later, she went to L’Hopital and generated a small but pathological function which left surds, zeros and residues all over the place and drove poor Polly to deviation.
    The moral of this story is: If you want to keep your expressions convergent, keep them well differentiated from complex operators.

  24. #24 |  Waste93 | 

    @ Episiarch

    Just remember that the next time Breitbart posts a video.

  25. #25 |  perlhaqr | 

    Some Atlanta police officers and ranking members of the force seem to be unfamiliar with law and constitutional protections that limit what they can do during a raid, according to a Citizen Review Board report released Friday.

    Like, shooting people and then planting drugs on them? That’s a no no.

  26. #26 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “During the interview [the board] conducted with Sgt. Collier, it became clear that he could not remember important details concerning what occurred on the night of the raid,” Chairwoman Joy Morrissey wrote in a letter to the chief.

    Ah yes, selective dementia. Uh, I can’t recall. Uh, I don’t remember hearing anyone yelling “faggot.” Hmm, no I just can’t remember. Perhaps the good sergeant needs to take an early retirement. His memory loss may put citizens at risk. His subordinates are apparently already doing that.

  27. #27 |  Aresen | 

    perlhaqr | February 5th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Some Atlanta police officers and ranking members of the force seem to be unfamiliar with law and constitutional protections that limit what they can do during a raid, according to a Citizen Review Board report released Friday.

    Like, shooting people and then planting drugs on them? That’s a no no.

    Actually, in CopWorld®, I believe that is grounds for commendation and promotion. (Unless you get caught, then it is only good for 3 to 6 weeks’ paid vacation.

  28. #28 |  Sean L. | 

    “Rush Limbaugh is a jackass”

    .. but I repeat myself.

  29. #29 |  Leonson | 

    Yeah, I saw ‘Media Matters’ and just went away. Kinda the same way I do the same with most of Limbaugh’s stuff.

    He can be a jackass though.

  30. #30 |  croaker | 

    Sounds to me like The Window War needs to come to North Carolina.

  31. #31 |  FridayNext | 

    In reference to NC and math/engineering. I wonder if talented math students can refuse to hand in homework by pleading the 5th.

  32. #32 |  PW | 

    I certainly wish no ill upon the journalists covering Egypt. I do, however, tend to find it off-putting how journalists go out of their way to make the story about themselves whenever they go into a war zone, a natural disaster area, or some other dangerous situation.

    The silly embedded journalist phenomenon of the Iraq war was the “positive message” counterpart to this whole phenomenon. But whenever there’s something dangerous on the news, you can always bet that some idiot reporter somewhere will find a way to walk into the middle of the riot, try to slip into a street battle for an up close interview with Hamas, or climbing on top of the pier that’s being pounded into driftwood by a hurricane.

    Maybe that’s not the case in every instance from Egypt, but the track record of the press doesn’t do them any favors in this department. And while I again certainly wish them no physical harm, my personal sympathy with those there ranks only slightly above my sympathy for the cop who plows into a tree while doing 70mph through a school zone on a non-emergency call.

  33. #33 |  PW | 

    I also have exceedingly little confidence that any of the reporters will draw the right lessons from Egypt. They’ll kick and scream about the Egyptian military’s checkpoints and brutality when it happens to them. But next week they’ll be right back to cheering on the DWI checkpoints here, SWAT team raids, TSA scanners at the airport, and every other parallel policy we have in place here in the name of fighting drugs and/or terrorism.

    As I said, my sympathy with these people ranks only slightly above my sympathy for cops who get caught snorting coke out of their own evidence locker.

  34. #34 |  Radley Balko | 

    PW —

    I couldn’t disagree more. I do agree that the reporters who report from the middle of hurricanes are pretty dumb. And the exercise does little to inform anyone. We all know hurricanes are windy.

    But in Egypt, they’re putting themselves in danger not to “make the story about them”, but to report history in the making. And in fact we can thank the media for explaining that what the Egyptian government tried to say were spontaneous counter-demonstrations were actually organized teams of Mubarak thugs coming in to beat on the demonstrators. The NY Times report I linked to describes Egyptian police beating and torturing protesters and native journalists. Isn’t it good that we know that’s going on? Given that Egypt shut down Internet access, if it weren’t for the journalists over there, we’d know much less about what’s going on in Egypt than we do now. That to me is unquestionably a good thing.

    Also, most of the embeds in Iraq and Afghanistan were predicated on the agreement that the military wouldn’t censor any reports, save for any information that would reveal strategy or location. Some reporters may have grown too close to the units with whom they were embedded, but on the whole I think the Pentagon deserves praise for the program, and the journalists who did it deserve credit for their bravery. See Evan Wright’s Generation Kill for a great example of the sort of insight an embedded reporter can provide. It was hardly war cheerleading.

  35. #35 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    #33 PW: “As I said, my sympathy with these people ranks only slightly above my sympathy for cops who get caught snorting coke out of their own evidence locker.”

    What do those two examples have to do with one another? Rage can be useful, PW, but not if it is unfocused and erratic rage.

  36. #36 |  Dan Danknick | 

    Regarding this Kevin Lacy moron that works for North Carolina’s Department of Transportation as a state traffic engineer:
    I’ve always said that stupid people do not bother me, because the adjective is subjective. But those proud of their stupidity are the real pox upon our culture. Like this Lacy character.

    If “engineering level” work is the metric, I’m disappointed to live on the other side of the country. I’d love to compare brain pans with this dope.

    Dan Danknick
    (a real life physicist with more patents than idiot-boy Lacey has toes)

  37. #37 |  croaker | 

    “I’d love to compare brain pans with this dope.”

    I’m afraid you would find nothing in that skull but hard vacuum.

  38. #38 |  Gerald A | 

    “The journalists reporting from Egypt are heroic.”

    That’s a joke, right?

  39. #39 |  croaker | 

    In other news, Miami-Dade gestapo thugs get military drones.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/01/2045956/new-police-drones-keep-on-top.html

    Here’s hoping they didn’t come with the optional Hellfire missile package…

  40. #40 |  Joe | 

    Rush Limbaugh is a jackass. By the way, here’s the blood-chilling report from the two New York Times reporters he mocked on the air. Also check out this harrowing report from Fox News correspondent Greg Palkot. The hell with politics. The journalists reporting from Egypt are heroic.

    Radley, tone down your outrage from 11 to about 2. Rush Limbaugh did not green light Mubarak to beat up western reporters. He made a joke and then he later corrected himself when things got out of hand. You may think Limbaugh is a jerk off all the time. If so, fine. But the mainstream media is often pompass and full of itself, and worthy of being made fun of. Occasionally even talent pundits like Anderson Cooper end up in harms way (and I made a joke about it too when the first reports were he got wacked in the head). Then it became clear that the press was being targetted specifically by Mubarak goons (and probably the one who is behind these attacks is Gamal Mubarak). And it is usually lesser name reporters who usually face the real danger and really are the heroic ones.

    I thank all the press for getting the coverage they did out of Egypt. I am sorry if I made a joke too.

    You know where your real criticism should be directed–to President Obama. The U.S. gives $1.5 billion of aid to Egypt each year. I think we can use that as a stick to at a minimum protect western reporters from assault from the recipient of our aid (since we know who is behind these attacks).

  41. #41 |  jrb | 

    Lots of you are right that the little out-of-context clip of Rush Limbaugh does not prove that he is a jackass. If you look at his whole body of work, you will see that he is, in fact, a complete douchebag.

    I fully support making off-color jokes at the most inappropriate times. I fully believe that anything worth taking seriously is worth making fun of. It’s a a very useful way of dealing with very difficult and often emotional events. Limbaugh’s jokes consistently miss in a way that is absolutely amazing. His jokes on serious matters almost always lead to a “WTF, Rush, you douchebag?” rather than finding some comforting humor in a bad situation.

    If he wants to do comedy, he needs better comedy writers. His main problem is that his “jokes” sound so much like his “principled positions” that it leaves the comedy completely flat. And I did mean to put quotes around those words because I don’t believe Rush makes jokes nor has principled positions.

  42. #42 |  Cyto | 

    I know you all would rather argue about Rush and the hoses at media matters, but I’d rather hear more about Mary Munoz. Is she a real person? Did this really happen as described? The “letter” is brilliant, I’d like to see the “behind the music” episode about how it was made.

    BTW- Limbaugh translation: “I don’t like the NYT. It’s funny when something bad happens to them. … … Just kidding…. I don’t really wish any of this happened to anybody.” Meh, not the worst thing I ever heard.

    I am glad that our nation finally seems to have concluded that they are on the side of the people in Egypt. Not sure what took them so long… seemed pretty obvious to me from the start.

  43. #43 |  PW | 

    “The NY Times report I linked to describes Egyptian police beating and torturing protesters and native journalists. Isn’t it good that we know that’s going on?”

    No doubt it is. But I also severely question whether anybody in the mainstream media will take the right lessons away from it. Just watch and next week they’ll be back to cheering on the drug war, back to supporting SWAT raids and DWI checkpoints, back to their usual game of deference to our very own police who do the exact same things to people here in the United States…hence my general absence of any sympathy for reporters who choose to put themselves in harm’s way.

  44. #44 |  PW | 

    Hell, I’m not even confident that our media will take this occasion of their own repression by the Mubarrak regime to even question the wisdom of us propping the guy up for the last 30 years, much less see the direct parallels between what is happening there and our own police excesses.

    Ask those NY Times reporters who got detained and kicked around if they think the US should cut off its billion dollar annual aid check to Egypt. I doubt a single one will give anything even remotely resembling an unequivocal yes.

  45. #45 |  Joe | 

    Limbaugh plays to his audience, trys to gin up controvery, and it works well for him. He is a very successful entertainer. It is okay to think he is a jerk because you disagree with him. I think lots of people are jerks because I disagree with them. What just did not sit right is getting all outraged and sanctimonious when someone makes a joke.

    Granted, some jokes take things a bit too far. But in terms of inappropriate jokes, that particular one seemed pretty mild and hardly that funny either. Rumors had it that Gamal was behind the recent thuggery, so perhaps his departure from the ruling party is an internal rejection of that. Right now we are guessing.

    Egypt is a mess. But you think Mubarak and the Egyptian Army are bad, let the country go into chaos and have the Muslim Brotherhood take over. They are organized, tough, and should not be underestimated. At 20 to 25% of the population, they are a force to be reckoned with. If it ever happened, that would be worse. Unless you think Egypt under Sharia law and scrapping the peace treaty with Israel are good things.

    I would like to see Mubarak leave in the relatively near future and see the election process opened up so at least there is some opposition parties in Egypt. The only way to turn that economy around is to open it up, and the only way to do that is not put all the power in the hands of one party (it is a good lesson for us to remember too).

  46. #46 |  J.S. | 

    1. NC Government has clearly gone “full retard”.
    2. Its media matters, I take all of those types of sites with a huge grain of salt anymore.
    3. I’d love to hear more about the gal from Oregon and her story. Dept. of Revenue is likely just making up for the budget shortfall.

  47. #47 |  JOR | 

    The Julian Sanchez post linked there is very good.

    The ‘balancing scales’ frame often has even more bizarre outcomes when you think about them carefully. In the ‘liberty versus security’ balance, it’s usually the case that liberty is shoveled off the scale by means of legal penalties – which of course reduce to enforcement by arbitrary police power, which essentially just is armed men threatening everyone’s safety. When balancing the interests of ‘the few against the many’, people don’t seem to immediately grasp that every member of the ‘many’ is also member of some ‘few’ or another; sacrifice a few here and a few there, and pretty soon you’re talking real many.

  48. #48 |  Radley Balko | 

    Radley, tone down your outrage from 11 to about 2. Rush Limbaugh did not green light Mubarak to beat up western reporters. He made a joke and then he later corrected himself when things got out of hand.

    No, he didn’t. He mocked reporters getting detained and possibly beaten because they were from the New York Times. He then reined himself in after hearing something similar had happened to reporters from Fox News.

    There’s a pattern of this among right wing pundits. It’s not enough that they advocate sending other people’s kids off to war while avoiding it themselves. During the first several years of the Iraq war, there was also a meme on the right that we weren’t hearing about all the progress being made in Iraq because journalists over there were too cowardly to wander outside the green zone to report on it. Never mind that several journalists had been killed when they tried to do just that.

    You know where your real criticism should be directed–to President Obama. The U.S. gives $1.5 billion of aid to Egypt each year.

    We’ve been giving Egypt military aid for 20 years as part of the Camp David accords. I don’t think we should be giving military aid to anyone. But it’s preposterous to blame Obama for a policy that’s lasted for six administrations.

  49. #49 |  Radley Balko | 

    That’s a joke, right?

    Are you getting beaten, detained, and threatened with your life while trying to report what’s going in Egypt?

  50. #50 |  PW | 

    “Are you getting beaten, detained, and threatened with your life while trying to report what’s going in Egypt?”

    I must respectfully continue to disagree on this issue. That’s a journalistic equivalent of the popular and fallacious argument trotted out to defend cops and soldiers simply because they’re on the streets or in the fields. You know the type – “Unless you’ve worn the badge/uniform/put your life on the line/blah blah blah simply trying to all keep us safe…”

    Reporting from the streets in Egypt right now clearly takes some guts. I don’t question that. But those who do it are there by their own volition. They know the risks going in (and those who don’t have only their stupidity to blame if the situation turned out to be a lot worse than expected…ahem…Katie Couric). Furthermore, the message they “report” from Egypt is only as valuable as the lessons it conveys and I’m not even remotely convinced that any of the reporters there are taking or conveying the right lessons from any of this.

    I’m therefore generally apathetic to learn that Anderson Cooper has gotten himself clocked over the head with a brick, knowing full well that he’ll leave the place without questioning anything about the United States’ obscene policy of propping up murderous third world dictators with billions in annual bribes and providing them with the very same training, intel collaboration, and weapons of repression that got him into harm’s way in the first place.

    I want to see him (or any of these other injured reporters) come on primetime news tomorrow evening and state unequivocally: “Our policy towards the middle east is wrong. We meddle constantly in the affairs of other countries where we have no business meddling. We paid off Mubarrak and built him up. And we condoned this very same type of behavior for the last 30 years when it was directed exclusively at his own people. Over the last few days I have seen civilians beaten on the streets in broad daylight, jailed for simply filming the authorities or questioning their actions, provoked and instigated to violence by those same authorities who act with impunity, pulled from their houses and hauled away by the police under the cover of night, and gunned down indiscriminately for daring to question their government. These violent and repressive policing actions are completely unacceptable in any circumstance, be it in the streets of Cairo or the bedrooms of suburban Chicago, and we cannot continue to support them financially. We cannot continue to condone them. And when we see them happening, be it across the globe or in our own backyards, we must immediately and strongly condemn them for the offending the very essence of our values as Americans, and our basic sense of humanity.”

    Let one of them read that on the news tomorrow and I might be inclined to think he’s a “hero.” Until then, my sympathies remain unmoved.

  51. #51 |  Pablo | 

    Your daily dose of schadenfreude:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/atlanta-polices-lead-investigator-829217.html

  52. #52 |  Joe | 

    Radley, no shit we have been giving Egypt money like that for years (acutally it started and is part of Camp David under Jimmy Carter). My point is not to justify giving Egypt that military aid as part of a peace treaty but suggest, perhaps, maybe the threat of taking that aid away should buy us a small amount of influence in Mubarak forces beating up western journalists. And President Obama happens to be President right now. Or would you rather blame Bush for this too? Like Chris Matthews did.

    And there is a “pattern” among right wing pundits? OOOOOOOOOh patterns. Why “right wing”? By ommission dp you suggest that left wing pundits don’t engage in hyperbole and excessive rhetoric? The left do not make off color jokes? I hear all kinds of horrible things said in the name of punditry by the left. I rarely hear them appologizing for it either.

    If you want to criticize policy fair enough. But this all started from Limbaugh joking about some reporters getting detained, then correcting himself when it was clear reporters really were being targeted. As rhetorical offenses go, it was pretty minor.

    And like I said above, I thank all the press for getting the coverage they did out of Egypt. I am sorry if I made a joke about it too.

  53. #53 |  Joe | 

    And as heroes go, I give more credit to those putting themselves in harms way for principals (and without payment or minimum payment) than multi million dollor anchorpersons just looking for ratings and finding themselves in a bad situation.

  54. #54 |  Joe | 

    And I have to say I missed that you were criticizing Limbaugh for being a chickenhawk in the first post. I guess he is a double chickenhawk since he promotes war and does not go, then as a political pundit he criticizes journalists in dangerous situations while he is safely protected in the EIB studios in Florida. Thanks for clearing that up.

  55. #55 |  Joe | 

    Putting themselves in harms way for “principles.” I doubt many of us would do anything for our old principals.

  56. #56 |  the innominate one | 

    joe@3:04pm

    nice strawman of the journalists you got there. you should burn it as an effigy.

  57. #57 |  Joe | 

    the innominate one. You are welcome. I will print out this page and put it in the wood burning stove and think happy thoughts.

    Actually I have decided my hero of the day is Mary Munoz for her heoroic battle with the tax authorities of Oregon.

  58. #58 |  Gerald A | 

    “Are you getting beaten, detained, and threatened with your life while trying to report what’s going in Egypt?”

    No, but I’ve been beaten, detained and my life threaten in several 3rd world counties. Mexico, Kenya, Phillipines and Alabama. Proper documents usually get your released. Proper documents having dead presidents pictures on them.

  59. #59 |  Joe | 

    Having lived in Egypt for several years and traveled through out the region, I have found those documents you describe work very well Gerald.

  60. #60 |  Henry Bowman | 

    Rush Limbaugh is a jackass

    I guess you’re getting a little jealous, Radley. Rush Limbaugh is simply funny. You need to seriously lighten up. And, as others have noted, referencing Media Matters is usually a rather stupid move.

    Best to listen to the whole show before you display your ignorance.

  61. #61 |  supercat | 

    One principle which many people seem to understand in social situations, but which cops seem unwilling to apply to searches, is that permission to search for one thing does not imply permission to observe anything and everything else. If overnight guest at someone’s house discovers at 3:00am that the bathroom is out of toilet paper, the guest would be reasonably entitled to search cabinets or drawers under the sink to try to find some. The guest would not, however, be entitled to take any notice of any objects he finds that would embarrass the host. The guest would be entitled to take notice of things for the host’s benefit (e.g. one of the pipes under the sink is dripping) but not to the host’s detriment.

    If a car crashes into a house, the cops may be entitled to search the immediate scene of the crash for evidence related thereto, but that does not imply permission to notice anything else in the house in any fashion detrimental to the homeowner. It’s too bad cops aren’t held to the same standards as civilized people (at minimum, defense attorneys need to be allowed to challenge the ‘reasonableness’ of any searches, and have juries instructed to consider it).

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