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Thursday, January 27th, 2011
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  1. #1 |  Elroy | 

    I knew those people at Bed Bath and Beyond were up to no good.

  2. #2 |  JThompson | 

    From reading what little I could find about MDVP on drug forums, it sounds like the worst drug ever. An hour long maybe semi-high that makes you miserable afterward and dosing back up makes you sick as a dog. Woo party! Seems like that would have an awfully low addiction potential. Next thing you know these people will ban nutmeg.

    If kids in Florida are smart they’ll start a huge rumor about how homework gets you really high and make up a bunch of nicknames for it. Assuming they’re not too strung out from their thousand dollar a day Bed Bath and Beyond habit to manage it.

  3. #3 |  Powersox | 

    I read the bath salts thing, and the first thing I did was double (and triple) check to make sure the link didn’t go to the Onion! To go along with JThompson, why not start rumors that work gets you high? Oh! I know! Making stupid laws gets you high! Oh, wait… I forgot, they follow their own sets of rules anyway.

  4. #4 |  Chuchundra | 

    This post makes me want sing “Until I Got High” by Afro Man all day.

  5. #5 |  CRNewsom | 

    From the bath salts article:

    “Our kids can overdose on this. So what we want to have done, we want to have it made a schedule 1 drug and to put it in perspective, that’s right up there with cocaine and heroine.”

    Copy editor mistake: heroine instead of heroin.
    AG mistake: cocaine is schedule II

    How can these people be so blind as to not know the system they created and maintain whilst I know it and it’s not my job at all?

  6. #6 |  Cappy | 

    After trying Bakon Vodka, I have absolutely no interest in MeatWater. Even though a touch of Bakon Vodka in a Bloody Mary ain’t half bad.

  7. #7 |  Montag | 

    this is what i’ve read about the bath salts thing: http://www.themediaconsortium.org/2011/01/26/weekly-pulse-dont-snort-bath-salts-kids/

    quoting from that link:
    “…before you go and blow your allowance at the Body Shop or the garden center, keep in mind that ‘bath salt’ and ‘plant food’ are just euphemisms that web-based head shops use to sell these amphetamine-like drugs , according to a 2010 report by the UK Council on the Misuse of Drugs. The active ingredients of this legal high are mephedrone and methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV).

    “Despite what the media would have you believe, these designer drugs are not ingredients in common household products. You cannot get high on actual bath salts or plant food.”

  8. #8 |  Marty | 

    as a local Tallahassee Bolivian Bath dealer, I’d like to personally thank Bay County Sheriff Frank McKeithen for saying, ‘It’s creating super human strength that takes 7 to 8 officers to deal with these individuals.’ This is better than selling steroids to cops!

  9. #9 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Aw hell, Detroit didn’t need all that housing anyway since the city has been largely run into the ground and most people are leaving.

  10. #10 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Every single fashionable drug (or fashionable drug-scare) during my lifetime has run off the same script. Instantly addicting – superhuman strength – dangerously crazy behavior; i’ve seen this applied to Pot, Cocaine, Heroin, LSD, XTC, and god only knows what-all else. It gets to where one might almost believe that the Drug Warrior Myrmidons were lying through their teeth.

  11. #11 |  nemo | 

    The anti-cancer properties of cannabis have been known since 1974 So, why did you not hear anything about it?

    In 1997, 20 years later, the same kind of study done by Kaiser Permanente. Again, why the silence? particularly since this is a literal life-or-death issue for cancer patients? Why is it that we have to have foreign studies done when the discovery was made here?

    Something stinks, big time…

  12. #12 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Gingrich is “smart” when you put him around other national-level politicians who are also considered “smart” – e.g. Al Gore, President Obama, John Kerry, etc. Now, compared to actual intelligent people they’re not smart, but context is everything.

  13. #13 |  Jozef | 

    WABE, the Atlanta NPR associate, had a story about the bath salts this morning. Looks like a really shitty drug, but what can one do when everything safer and less harmful was already outlawed… (I personally love bath salts only in my bath, but I don’t think I’d ever try products with such corny names.)

  14. #14 |  Dave Krueger | 

    The UK’s airport security people are apparently just as stupid as the TSA. They forced a guy to remove the 3″ replica SA80 rifle from a 9″ tall military figurine he was carrying. He had to mail the gun back home.

    I have to admit that, the tiny gun is very real looking could easily be mistaken for the real thing by someone with the intellectual capacity of a typical airport security employee. The guy is probably lucky the security guards didn’t shoot him.

  15. #15 |  kant | 

    RE: TMZ + cannabinoids

    Combine this story with the fact that CBD is a known neuroprotectorant. (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html)

    Actually what I find really funny is that all these scare stories about cannabis are turning out to be exactly opposite of the case.

    “gateway” theory – I know more people who used pot to step down rather than up. Especially with cigs.

    “Pot rots the brain” – no it seem that there are quite a few beneficial aspects for the brain.

    “pot makes you lazy and unmotivated” – the top 100 questions on obama’s recent youtube townhall thing were all about cannabis or the drugwar (or why he won’t answer the question seriously).

  16. #16 |  not a viking | 

    @Dave Kreuger re SA80 story

    It’s extra pathetic given that these days London/UK airports have plenty of patrols with heavily armed police (G36+sidearm, lots of ammo and gadgets*) so it’s not like the people working there wouldn’t have seen the real thing up close daily before.

    On the other hand I’ve once had a piece of medical tape confiscated by security so what the hell, if you can bring a plane down with 1.5cmx4m of tape apparently, a mini model firearm probably let’s you conquer the world.

    * It actually looks like individual officers were given a budget and a bunch of mail order catalogs and told to go wild, lot’s of individual detail in how they accessorize.

  17. #17 |  Irving Washington | 

    Newt is brilliant. Like scary smart. It’s his ethical flexibility that’s the problem.

  18. #18 |  Juice | 

    I wasn’t around in the 1940s but I live in SW DC and from what I’ve heard from a couple of old timers that told me separately, SW DC was a complete and total shithole. There wasn’t much if any indoor plumbing. People shat in outhouses and there were open sewage ditches. And yeah, the freeway needed to be somewhere. Maybe right there wasn’t the best place but it was necessary.

    SW DC is a fairly decent place. Before the renewal it was an actual slum like you’d find in a third world country. As in shantytown.

    The H&R link:

    http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/26/urban-renewal-in-dc#comments

  19. #19 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Toy rifle…I’d say someone has lost his perspective. YEEEEEEAAAAHHH!

  20. #20 |  Juice | 

    Oh, just want to be clear. I’m totally against eminent domain and all it’s abuses. The renewal did not have to involve totally wiping out an entire neighborhood. It would have been difficult to install indoor plumbing and electricity in a place without it, but it could have been done.

    Just saying that aerial photos are little indication as to whether the neighborhood is better or worse. Morality aside, shacks and dilapidated rowhouses were replaced by midrise apartments and condos (and parks).

  21. #21 |  Elliot | 

    @Michael Chaney (#12), I agree. Most politicians are dumber than Newt. But that’s not saying much.

    In this case, I’m willing to consider the possibility that Gingrich is smart enough not to believe in the ethanol fairy tale, but is simply being disingenuous, angling for the corn state votes.

  22. #22 |  paranoiastrksdp | 

    There’s been a suspected correlation between cannabinoid use and the activation of programmed cell death pathways (the body’s anti-cancer system) for almost 40 years. Back in the 60s it was dismissed as hippy propaganda – as more studies came out to reinforce this the government did what we could have guessed it would have done – banned *all* research related to cannabis. Thankfully the Israelis are a little more open minded about this, and continued. Interesting side note, one of the John W. Huffman (Synthetic marijuana! OH NOES!) compounds has shown to be an inhibitor of breast cancer tumors, in rats. Said compound is *not* psychoactive but is likely to be banned in any kind of “synthetic marijuana” blanket ban.

    Hell, let’s assume they find out tomorrow, without a doubt, that the good herb can cure cancer. Should we hold our breath and wait for an apology for the prohibition-nuts?

    Yeah, didn’t think so either..

  23. #23 |  Nate | 

    CRNewsom: “How can these people be so blind as to not know the system they created and maintain whilst I know it and it’s not my job at all?”

    Incorrect. Being a citizen subject to the law we have to know it, lest we find ourselves on the wrong side of it. Those making and enforcing the rules have no such obligation as they would never be held accountable for transgression.

  24. #24 |  paranoiastrksdp | 

    re: the bath salts article

    Good to know when they go to ban the compound they’ll be banning something called MDVP instead of MDPV (3,4-methylenedioxypyrovalerone). And these people are in charge of drug policy..

  25. #25 |  derfel cadarn | 

    It is glaringly obvious that using Newt and the sheriff as examples that bath salts do not cause superhuman brain power.

  26. #26 |  Aresen | 

    C. S. P. Schofield | January 27th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Every single fashionable drug (or fashionable drug-scare) during my lifetime has run off the same script. Instantly addicting – superhuman strength – dangerously crazy behavior; i’ve seen this applied to Pot, Cocaine, Heroin, LSD, XTC, and god only knows what-all else.

    Damn right! I’ve been disappointed every time! ;)

    It gets to where one might almost believe that the Drug Warrior Myrmidons were lying through their teeth.

    “Myrmidons” – nice to see that the classics are still appreciated.

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  28. #28 |  MacGregory | 

    It’s no wonder that our kids don’t take us seriously. Here is the real message: “that shit you buy legally; k2, bath salts et al; may very well kill ya.” The street stuff is safer.

  29. #29 |  KristenS | 

    Nothing can top last year’s Puppy Bowl MVP, Jake the nutso pug mix

  30. #30 |  Brandon | 

    “Posted by: Barbara Location: PCB on Jan 26, 2011 at 09:02 PM

    Thank you to the Bay county Sheriff dept for your quick response to my call last week concerning this – You have all made this mom very happy knowing her son is now safe from this horrilbe substance…..
    [ Report Abuse ]

    First comment on the bath salts story. Makes me sad.

  31. #31 |  Maria | 

    http://foodbeast.com/content/2010/03/25/exploring-meatwater/

    Fascinating project actually.

  32. #32 |  J sub D aka Power Man | 

    Sheriff: Psychoactive bath salts capable of “creating super human strength.”

    Crap! The secret’s out. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry is going to be tossing Buicks around.

  33. #33 |  paranoiastrksdp | 

    “# #29 | Brandon | January 27th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    “Posted by: Barbara Location: PCB on Jan 26, 2011 at 09:02 PM

    Thank you to the Bay county Sheriff dept for your quick response to my call last week concerning this – You have all made this mom very happy knowing her son is now safe from this horrilbe substance…..
    [ Report Abuse ]

    First comment on the bath salts story. Makes me sad.”

    If you look at some of the other “bath salts” stories on that site, Barbara’s “kid” is an 18 year old adult that is using these products regularly, by her own admission.

    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/112904124.html?storySection=comments

  34. #34 |  paranoiastrksdp | 

    #10 | C. S. P. Schofield | January 27th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    I noticed this too! It was almost like they took boilerplate news articles re: PCP from the 70s and 80s and just substituted in a new drug (MDPV, 4-mmc) as the demon drug of the moment.

  35. #35 |  J sub D | 

    So can we finally put to rest the damnable lie that Newt Gingrich is smart?

    Follow the links folks –

    RadioIowa.com wrote

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich today dismissed the “big city” critics of corn-based ethanol and suggested the biofuels industry will be able to “stand on its own” without federal subsidies once all autos are “flexible-fuel” vehicles.

    Gingrich was the keynote speaker at the Iowa Renewable Fuels Association Summit in Des Moines. [bold added]

    When your running for president you suck up to Iowan rent seekers.

  36. #36 |  Juice | 

    Yeah, I wonder if the whole ethanol-in-gasoline thing is entirely due to presidential politics.

    I can’t wait for a state to have their primary a full year before the election, just to get in before Iowa.

  37. #37 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    #26, #34,

    On the other hand I’ve also noticed that there are people coming to the (largely unverifiable) defense of those same drugs, and that they too often recycle their points from fad to fad.

    Which brings me to believe that BOTH sides are doing so much lying that the only thing to do is zero out all drug laws for five years and THEN see where we are.

  38. #38 |  Big A | 

    I always wonder what super-human strength looks like physiologically. How is it possible to suddenly be able to ward off 8 cops? I mean, you still have the same muscles and bone structure. Are those schmucks in the Olympics really training for 4 years for nothing? And how can I muster all this hidden strength when my car gets parked in or I’m trying to impress someone at the gym?

  39. #39 |  Jake's mom | 

    LOL! I’m Jake’s mom and responding to Kristen’s comment above….
    Yes, you’re right. And he’s still nuts. ;)

    #29 | KristenS | January 27th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Nothing can top last year’s Puppy Bowl MVP, Jake the nutso pug mix

  40. #40 |  markm | 

    A schizophrenic friend of mine – female and not at all physically impressive – occasionally got into a state of mind where she could toss a half dozen cops around. (This was back when cops didn’t have tasers and thought shooting an unarmed person was not kosher.) This condition didn’t occur from drugs, but rather from the lack of them. Antipyschotics have nasty side effects, and crazy people are apt to forget why they need them.

    There probably are some drugs out there that can induce a similar state of mind in a susceptible person, but why would anyone take them? Oh yes, we outlawed all the relatively safe drugs… Especially cannabis; can’t have people feeling good on a drug that’s safer than nicotine, alcohol, and Tylenol.

  41. #41 |  markm | 

    What Newt Gingrich lacks isn’t smarts, but principles. That just makes him a typical politician. 99.9% of them give the rest a bad name…

  42. #42 |  Daniel W | 

    BeyondDC’s official response to the Agitator’s inclusion of their post:

    “A number of libertarian blogs have picked up BeyondDC’s post showing before and after aerials of Southwest urban renewal as an example of why government city planning is inherently bad.

    That’s a little like saying contemporary doctors are bad because once, long ago, tribal medicine men practiced voodoo and it didn’t work. Or it’s like saying international travel by contemporary airplane is impossible because the Wright brothers’ first plane only managed to fly a few yards. Simply put: Citing an obsolete example of something doesn’t make the contemporary version wrong.

    There are lots of things wrong with contemporary planning (*cough* zoning), but the fact that planners made mistakes a half century ago isn’t one of them.”

  43. #43 |  Daniel W | 

    I’d also like to add that one of the principle problems facing SW DC today is the very existence of that freeway. It’s not just that the government put in the big scary buildings, but they also forced a lot of people to sell land so that they could drive other homeowners’ property down for good.

    In other words, does your opposition to central planning also extend, as it logically should, to centrally planned freeways that always, always come at the cost of property owner equity in the affected neighborhoods?

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