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	<title>Comments on: Violence, Government Violence, and Anti-Government Rhetoric</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Divorce Authority</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-2/#comment-2931211</link>
		<dc:creator>Divorce Authority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 01:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can and do hold officials at all levels accountable for their actions.  That doesn&#039;t mean that they are saints, but they do have to think twice before abusing authority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can and do hold officials at all levels accountable for their actions.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that they are saints, but they do have to think twice before abusing authority.</p>
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		<title>By: My Letter to the Long Beach Press-Telegram - eHarmony Advice</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-2/#comment-743197</link>
		<dc:creator>My Letter to the Long Beach Press-Telegram - eHarmony Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of society to see how this works out, a subset that has a proven track record of abusing guns. That subset, of course, is government.   If we find that eliminating guns from all levels and agencies of government dramatically reduces [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of society to see how this works out, a subset that has a proven track record of abusing guns. That subset, of course, is government.   If we find that eliminating guns from all levels and agencies of government dramatically reduces [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ejercito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ejercito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve been listening to it all morning on the Sunday talk shows. Let’s get the obvious out of the way, here: Initiating violence against government officials and politicians is wrongheaded, immoral, futile, and counterproductive to any anti-government cause. As is encouraging or praising others who do. I ban anyone who engages in that kind of talk here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
While there have been situations in history (the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking) where initiating violence against government officials and politicians was justified, these conditions do not exist currently in this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve been listening to it all morning on the Sunday talk shows. Let’s get the obvious out of the way, here: Initiating violence against government officials and politicians is wrongheaded, immoral, futile, and counterproductive to any anti-government cause. As is encouraging or praising others who do. I ban anyone who engages in that kind of talk here.</p></blockquote>
<p>While there have been situations in history (the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking) where initiating violence against government officials and politicians was justified, these conditions do not exist currently in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Arizona and not Massachusetts? &#171; Blunt Object</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Arizona and not Massachusetts? &#171; Blunt Object</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Radley Balko writes on the same topic I just addressed, though a couple days earlier: Let’s get the obvious out of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: When Politicians turn Murder into Opportunity &#124; Thoughts on Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>When Politicians turn Murder into Opportunity &#124; Thoughts on Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 04:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MattN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for putting this out there, Balko.

In response to &#039;matt w&#039; #27, but also more generally:

First, in this particular instance the gunman appears to be totally detached from reality.  So that should end the story, but it doesn&#039;t, of course -- politicians use the occasion to imply that the attack was provoked by speech critical of government, in a disgustingly cynical attempt to silence that criticism.

It kills me every time I hear a statist (right or left, but usually left) attack free speech on the pretense that it might provoke the occasional extremist into acts of violence.  Balko glaringly points out that the state not only condones violence by its own agencies, but actually approves and funds the tactics.

But that&#039;s only the explicit portion of the violence.  The rest of government is a gestapo of implied violence.  For every law that is passed there is the explicit legal requirement of punishment for non-compliance... perhaps a fee.  But does someone who disagrees with a law pay the fee because they agree with the punishment, or because it is the easiest way to avoid the next level of punishment... jail?  And does someone go to jail because they agree with the punishment, or only because it is preferable to being killed?  If the &quot;criminal&quot; says, &quot;anh... I don&#039;t agree with that law and I refuse to be punished for it,&quot; does the government shrug and go on it&#039;s merry way?  No... ultimately it pursues non-conformists into their graves.

Think of that... Obama and his statist friends in congress passed a law legally requiring everyone to buy insurance.  Those that don&#039;t must pay a fine, but that&#039;s only an option to let you avoid jail, which is only an option to let you avoid being killed.  Their ultimate goal is to convince you to participate in the program even if you don&#039;t agree with you, by making the consequences uncomfortable.  Most people are going to choose compliance or the fee, even if they disagree, because it&#039;s less painful than jail or death.  But the implication is there.

[Now that&#039;s just an example.  This isn&#039;t a rant against liberals or Democrats.  It&#039;s a rant against statists, which can be applied to conservatives and Republicans just as well.]

So I slip into a subtle rage when a statist sycophant complains about anti-statist rhetoric supposedly provoking some anti-government violence.  Statists live and breath violence on a daily basis.  Their entire BEING is consumed with the use of state power to force people into compliance.  Implied violence lies behind the veneer of &quot;compassion&quot; and &quot;benevolence&quot; of every state action.  The explicit and implied violence behind state action is apparently so completely absorbed into the being of those who wield and support that power that they are able to completely compartmentalize it out of conscious mind.  PARDON ME if I don&#039;t feel an OUNCE of remorse for speaking out against the state.  If the state wasn&#039;t shitting all over people on a daily basis, I wouldn&#039;t have to.

Now, dammit, I am NOT an anarchist, or some right-winger.  I&#039;m just a dude who believes in FREEDOM, and I won&#039;t live in a f-ing world where politicians and their god-dammed sycophants get to run around using and threating violence with impunity, while at the same time criticizing (and threating the rights of) people who simply SPEAK in criticism of government.

Now, to people who love government and think it is a great source of good for solving all kinds of human problems, I submit to you: using coercive power, and the associated explicit and implicit violence, to achieve your goals is not &quot;success,&quot; it is not &quot;progress,&quot; it is not &quot;good,&quot; &quot;right,&quot; &quot;just,&quot; or benevolent in any sense.  It is a complete capitulation to abject failure.


WHEW... I feel SO MUCH BETTER!  Now that I was able to SPEAK, maybe I won&#039;t go out and SHOOT someone!


[to anyone reading, that last comment was sarcasm aimed at making a point about speech being an important outlet... I&#039;m not planning to, nor have I ever planned to, shoot anyone... fuck all that I even have to say that]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this out there, Balko.</p>
<p>In response to &#8216;matt w&#8217; #27, but also more generally:</p>
<p>First, in this particular instance the gunman appears to be totally detached from reality.  So that should end the story, but it doesn&#8217;t, of course &#8212; politicians use the occasion to imply that the attack was provoked by speech critical of government, in a disgustingly cynical attempt to silence that criticism.</p>
<p>It kills me every time I hear a statist (right or left, but usually left) attack free speech on the pretense that it might provoke the occasional extremist into acts of violence.  Balko glaringly points out that the state not only condones violence by its own agencies, but actually approves and funds the tactics.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s only the explicit portion of the violence.  The rest of government is a gestapo of implied violence.  For every law that is passed there is the explicit legal requirement of punishment for non-compliance&#8230; perhaps a fee.  But does someone who disagrees with a law pay the fee because they agree with the punishment, or because it is the easiest way to avoid the next level of punishment&#8230; jail?  And does someone go to jail because they agree with the punishment, or only because it is preferable to being killed?  If the &#8220;criminal&#8221; says, &#8220;anh&#8230; I don&#8217;t agree with that law and I refuse to be punished for it,&#8221; does the government shrug and go on it&#8217;s merry way?  No&#8230; ultimately it pursues non-conformists into their graves.</p>
<p>Think of that&#8230; Obama and his statist friends in congress passed a law legally requiring everyone to buy insurance.  Those that don&#8217;t must pay a fine, but that&#8217;s only an option to let you avoid jail, which is only an option to let you avoid being killed.  Their ultimate goal is to convince you to participate in the program even if you don&#8217;t agree with you, by making the consequences uncomfortable.  Most people are going to choose compliance or the fee, even if they disagree, because it&#8217;s less painful than jail or death.  But the implication is there.</p>
<p>[Now that's just an example.  This isn't a rant against liberals or Democrats.  It's a rant against statists, which can be applied to conservatives and Republicans just as well.]</p>
<p>So I slip into a subtle rage when a statist sycophant complains about anti-statist rhetoric supposedly provoking some anti-government violence.  Statists live and breath violence on a daily basis.  Their entire BEING is consumed with the use of state power to force people into compliance.  Implied violence lies behind the veneer of &#8220;compassion&#8221; and &#8220;benevolence&#8221; of every state action.  The explicit and implied violence behind state action is apparently so completely absorbed into the being of those who wield and support that power that they are able to completely compartmentalize it out of conscious mind.  PARDON ME if I don&#8217;t feel an OUNCE of remorse for speaking out against the state.  If the state wasn&#8217;t shitting all over people on a daily basis, I wouldn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>Now, dammit, I am NOT an anarchist, or some right-winger.  I&#8217;m just a dude who believes in FREEDOM, and I won&#8217;t live in a f-ing world where politicians and their god-dammed sycophants get to run around using and threating violence with impunity, while at the same time criticizing (and threating the rights of) people who simply SPEAK in criticism of government.</p>
<p>Now, to people who love government and think it is a great source of good for solving all kinds of human problems, I submit to you: using coercive power, and the associated explicit and implicit violence, to achieve your goals is not &#8220;success,&#8221; it is not &#8220;progress,&#8221; it is not &#8220;good,&#8221; &#8220;right,&#8221; &#8220;just,&#8221; or benevolent in any sense.  It is a complete capitulation to abject failure.</p>
<p>WHEW&#8230; I feel SO MUCH BETTER!  Now that I was able to SPEAK, maybe I won&#8217;t go out and SHOOT someone!</p>
<p>[to anyone reading, that last comment was sarcasm aimed at making a point about speech being an important outlet... I'm not planning to, nor have I ever planned to, shoot anyone... fuck all that I even have to say that]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin&#8217;s targets and Gabrielle Giffords &#171; Phil Ebersole&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin&#8217;s targets and Gabrielle Giffords &#171; Phil Ebersole&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by people with uniforms and badges at any given time than by anti-government extremists.  Click on Violence, Government Violence and Anti-Government Rhetoric for his full statement on The Agitator web [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: If You&#8217;re Going to Do It Digitally, Do It Right &#124; Truth and Justice For All</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-524765</link>
		<dc:creator>If You&#8217;re Going to Do It Digitally, Do It Right &#124; Truth and Justice For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] perpetrates against innocent or undeserving citizens frequently and as a matter of course:  &#8220;Violence, Government Violence, and Anti-Government Rhetoric.&#8221; [I]t’s worth remembering that the government initiates violence against its own citizens [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] perpetrates against innocent or undeserving citizens frequently and as a matter of course:  &#8220;Violence, Government Violence, and Anti-Government Rhetoric.&#8221; [I]t’s worth remembering that the government initiates violence against its own citizens [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#47 Cyto--good points about Boortz but the qualities that make him an entertainer do not make him a good public spokesperson for libertarianism. I quit listening to/reading his stuff because I got tired of hearing him call everybody losers, welfare brood sows, idiots, etc. One can disagree with or criticize others without belittling or dehumanizing them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 Cyto&#8211;good points about Boortz but the qualities that make him an entertainer do not make him a good public spokesperson for libertarianism. I quit listening to/reading his stuff because I got tired of hearing him call everybody losers, welfare brood sows, idiots, etc. One can disagree with or criticize others without belittling or dehumanizing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#34 &#124;   Dave Krueger &#124;
Boortz is a talk show host.  An entertainer.  Being nice and civil is boring and doesn&#039;t draw an audience.  He has a huge audience because he knows how to stir the pot.  He also happens to be on the right side of most issues, but that is incidental to his job.   To his credit, he fully acknowledges this (or at least he used to, it has been a decade since I lived in Atlanta) and will regularly remind listeners that he is an entertainer and bullshit artist.  

Al Franken tried the opposite approach - all the vitriol without the entertainment.  It didn&#039;t work for ratings, but he did manage to get a Senate seat out of it.  So I guess it is down to priorities. If you want to make cash the honest way, you have to be entertaining.  Otherwise you can use the power of the state to extract money for yourself by joining the halls of power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34 |   Dave Krueger |<br />
Boortz is a talk show host.  An entertainer.  Being nice and civil is boring and doesn&#8217;t draw an audience.  He has a huge audience because he knows how to stir the pot.  He also happens to be on the right side of most issues, but that is incidental to his job.   To his credit, he fully acknowledges this (or at least he used to, it has been a decade since I lived in Atlanta) and will regularly remind listeners that he is an entertainer and bullshit artist.  </p>
<p>Al Franken tried the opposite approach &#8211; all the vitriol without the entertainment.  It didn&#8217;t work for ratings, but he did manage to get a Senate seat out of it.  So I guess it is down to priorities. If you want to make cash the honest way, you have to be entertaining.  Otherwise you can use the power of the state to extract money for yourself by joining the halls of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#43 &#124;   Highway &#124;

I like the expectation they have (supported by the courts) that mere act of saying &quot;police&quot; creates a legal onus on the citizen as if they have full knowledge that the people assaulting their home are police and that the police have a legal right to be there and that it is criminal (and possibly deadly) to offer any resistance.  That&#039;s a pretty high, even ridiculous set of requirements.  

Even if you were to understand the cacophony and pull &quot;police&quot; from the mayhem, is it really reasonable to assume that someone kicking in your back door yelling &quot;police&quot; means you no harm?  (particularly if there are no accompanying police lights, sirens or uniforms)  

I&#039;ve seen commenters argue with passion that the word &quot;police&quot; across the back of an otherwise unremarkable dark blue windbreaker is unmistakable proof that a &quot;criminal cop killer&quot; knew he was dealing with the police.   As if a person confronted with an armed intruder in a dark windbreaker has magical powers of x-ray vision that allow him to read the back of the intruders jacket.  In fact, these &quot;uniforms&quot; are specifically designed to appear &quot;not police&quot; from the front, with &quot;police&quot; visible from the back.  This is to allow stealth in approaching the target while preventing mistaken friendly fire from behind.  This intentional double-think on the part of our leaders is appalling.  

Once again I put the call out to anyone who has authority in these situations:  do not put your people or the citizenry into positions where violence is likely unless there are no other alternatives.  It is stupid and wasteful.  These drug raids are the definitive example of counterproductive use of force.  In almost every case a little better planning would have resulted in a search without the use of violent entry.  

The odds of something going wrong in any one raid are extremely low - so they continually get away with it.  But it is exactly akin to drunk driving:  Just because you manage to make it home without wrecking &quot;every time&quot; (so far) doesn&#039;t mean it is a safe or wise practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 |   Highway |</p>
<p>I like the expectation they have (supported by the courts) that mere act of saying &#8220;police&#8221; creates a legal onus on the citizen as if they have full knowledge that the people assaulting their home are police and that the police have a legal right to be there and that it is criminal (and possibly deadly) to offer any resistance.  That&#8217;s a pretty high, even ridiculous set of requirements.  </p>
<p>Even if you were to understand the cacophony and pull &#8220;police&#8221; from the mayhem, is it really reasonable to assume that someone kicking in your back door yelling &#8220;police&#8221; means you no harm?  (particularly if there are no accompanying police lights, sirens or uniforms)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen commenters argue with passion that the word &#8220;police&#8221; across the back of an otherwise unremarkable dark blue windbreaker is unmistakable proof that a &#8220;criminal cop killer&#8221; knew he was dealing with the police.   As if a person confronted with an armed intruder in a dark windbreaker has magical powers of x-ray vision that allow him to read the back of the intruders jacket.  In fact, these &#8220;uniforms&#8221; are specifically designed to appear &#8220;not police&#8221; from the front, with &#8220;police&#8221; visible from the back.  This is to allow stealth in approaching the target while preventing mistaken friendly fire from behind.  This intentional double-think on the part of our leaders is appalling.  </p>
<p>Once again I put the call out to anyone who has authority in these situations:  do not put your people or the citizenry into positions where violence is likely unless there are no other alternatives.  It is stupid and wasteful.  These drug raids are the definitive example of counterproductive use of force.  In almost every case a little better planning would have resulted in a search without the use of violent entry.  </p>
<p>The odds of something going wrong in any one raid are extremely low &#8211; so they continually get away with it.  But it is exactly akin to drunk driving:  Just because you manage to make it home without wrecking &#8220;every time&#8221; (so far) doesn&#8217;t mean it is a safe or wise practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the map.... just so long as you don&#039;t use crosshairs to denote the locations of police violence....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the map&#8230;. just so long as you don&#8217;t use crosshairs to denote the locations of police violence&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more I think about it, the more I am wondering why the police think it&#039;s a good idea for EVERYONE to be yelling on one of these &#039;dynamic entries&#039;?  Maybe if there was one loud person who clearly repeated instructions, people might understand what was said, but how can any person, even mid-day perfectly awake and *paying attention* be expected to pull a coherent &quot;We are the police&quot; message out of that cacophony of shouting, banging, and screaming?  Then let&#039;s add sleepiness and unexpectedness to the equation.

It&#039;s a wonder anyone ever figures out it&#039;s the police.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the more I am wondering why the police think it&#8217;s a good idea for EVERYONE to be yelling on one of these &#8216;dynamic entries&#8217;?  Maybe if there was one loud person who clearly repeated instructions, people might understand what was said, but how can any person, even mid-day perfectly awake and *paying attention* be expected to pull a coherent &#8220;We are the police&#8221; message out of that cacophony of shouting, banging, and screaming?  Then let&#8217;s add sleepiness and unexpectedness to the equation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a wonder anyone ever figures out it&#8217;s the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Government and Violence — The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-524215</link>
		<dc:creator>Government and Violence — The League of Ordinary Gentlemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jason Kuznicki on January 10, 2011     Radley Balko writes:  [I]t’s worth remembering that the government initiates violence against its own citizens every [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jason Kuznicki on January 10, 2011     Radley Balko writes:  [I]t’s worth remembering that the government initiates violence against its own citizens every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-524148</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You missed another lesson (reminder) to be learned from this: most people are idiots (MPAI). They call this the consequence of &quot;anti-government rhetoric&quot; while reporting that the man&#039;s two favorite books were the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

That makes as much sense as saying that an abortion clinic bomber whose favorite book is the Koran was clearly influenced by radical Christian fundamentalism...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed another lesson (reminder) to be learned from this: most people are idiots (MPAI). They call this the consequence of &#8220;anti-government rhetoric&#8221; while reporting that the man&#8217;s two favorite books were the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.</p>
<p>That makes as much sense as saying that an abortion clinic bomber whose favorite book is the Koran was clearly influenced by radical Christian fundamentalism&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RWW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-523124</link>
		<dc:creator>RWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s about time for me to buy a handgun before it&#039;s too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s about time for me to buy a handgun before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-523120</link>
		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The government engaging in violent and violence-inducing behavior? How dare you sully their good name by holding them to the standards they expect for us commoners!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government engaging in violent and violence-inducing behavior? How dare you sully their good name by holding them to the standards they expect for us commoners!</p>
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		<title>By: Why Anti-Government Sentiment Exists &#171; The Blog For Truth, Justice, &#38; The Josh Way</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-522862</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Anti-Government Sentiment Exists &#171; The Blog For Truth, Justice, &#38; The Josh Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This analysis by Radley Balko does better than I could to sum up my feelings on the atrocious shooting that took place over the weekend in Arizona. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This analysis by Radley Balko does better than I could to sum up my feelings on the atrocious shooting that took place over the weekend in Arizona. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bambam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-522410</link>
		<dc:creator>Bambam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2. Turning up the drug war, drug warriors will use this to argue that the war must be fought with more money and more thuggery

It&#039;s like I always say, Politician X feels s/he does not have to justify statements and data to people, uses magical Metrics Y to measure success of Item Z, measures it at 1%, and concludes that 100x more effort/money/liberty must be sacrificed to achieve 100% success for Item Z.  Surely you can&#039;t dispute the math.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2. Turning up the drug war, drug warriors will use this to argue that the war must be fought with more money and more thuggery</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like I always say, Politician X feels s/he does not have to justify statements and data to people, uses magical Metrics Y to measure success of Item Z, measures it at 1%, and concludes that 100x more effort/money/liberty must be sacrificed to achieve 100% success for Item Z.  Surely you can&#8217;t dispute the math.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancyinwi</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/01/09/violence-government-violence-and-anti-government-rhetoric/comment-page-1/#comment-522400</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancyinwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it legal, and if so, how and why, for police to handcuff someone who is not under arrest or otherwise in custody?  Even when it&#039;s not a SWAT tiype situation, they seem really big on restraining people.  In the Columbia video, they give a number of reasons, any of which could have been accomplished without restraint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it legal, and if so, how and why, for police to handcuff someone who is not under arrest or otherwise in custody?  Even when it&#8217;s not a SWAT tiype situation, they seem really big on restraining people.  In the Columbia video, they give a number of reasons, any of which could have been accomplished without restraint.</p>
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