Late Afternoon Links

Thursday, January 6th, 2011
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29 Responses to “Late Afternoon Links”

  1. #1 |  Mattocracy | 

    I was kinda hoping you’d be in the notorious and infamous section…

  2. #2 |  Richard Head | 

    what exactly is a ‘Bubba the Love Sponge. Afraid to RTFA

  3. #3 |  gonzostl | 

    I couldn’t find Radley on the list first, but then I realized that I probably should look in another category other that Model.

  4. #4 |  gonzostl | 

    I couldn’t find Radley on the list first, but then I realized that I probably should look in a category other that Model.

  5. #5 |  gonzostl | 

    woops

  6. #6 |  ktc2 | 

    @#2

    A boring lame-ass redneck morning talk show host. Damn I wish my rock station would give up the morning talk BS and just play the F’ing music!

  7. #7 |  Marty | 

    the torture/no fly story is UGLY.

  8. #8 |  Marty | 

    I understand that 100% of the people on the list are FROM Indiana, but I wonder what percentage of Indianans on the list ended up in Indiana. Maybe 10%?

  9. #9 |  the innominate one | 

    Why are two journalists (including Radley) listed under art and literature and another under entertainment (television)? Makes no sense.

    My sympathies, Radley, for your association with Bubble the lard sponge. Not to mention Jim Davis. Hard to say which is worse.

  10. #10 |  edmund dantes | 

    Luckily he’s probably brown and has foreign sounding name. So all is right in th world and no one will care. However, once again, we have Obama breaking the Constitution just like George Bush. Both partaking in what amount to war crimes. It’s a good thing the U.S. has the biggest fucking stick on the planet. Otherwise, we’d actually have to be subject to the rules and regulations we like to enforce on other countries.

  11. #11 |  Dave Krueger | 

    U.S. citizen abducted, tortured in Kuwait, now denied entry back into the U.S., all with no explanation.

    Well, if the U.S. government reserves the right to execute U.S. citizens without due process, I suspect they probably feel they have to do anything else to them as well. I mean, does anyone actually think that a government that claims the power to execute is going to believe they don’t have the power to detain and torture (or have one of the puppets do it for them)?

  12. #12 |  qwints | 

    I want to know who’s working against these evil treatment of Americans abroad. [Reads article]. Yet another reason I’m glad I support the ACLU.

  13. #13 |  Irving Washington | 

    I have less than no problem believing that a brown, Muslim US citizen is being mistreated abroad and being provided insufficient support by our government, but Greenwald sucks in general and in this story specifically, which cites unnamed American officials and then asserts that the government has been silent. Also, Kuwait hasn’t been a vassal state to the US since shortly after its liberation. That’s a ridiculous allegation upon which to base a claim that this kid’s situation was actually created by the US.

  14. #14 |  qwints | 

    The unnamed American officials cited in the article are the ones from Mazzetti’s article saying that Gulet Mohamed is on the no fly list. When Greenwald claims that “[t]he U.S. Government has said nothing about this matter, and refused to comment about Mohamed’s treatment to The New York Times,” he is referring to “the torture to which he had been subjected during his detention” (from the previous sentence.) Greenwald is also clearly not literally claiming that Kuwait is a vassal state, but merely stating the obvious fact that it is under enormous US influence – “little more than a subservient American protectorate.” Do you really disagree with the notion that Kuwait would not detain/harshly interrogate an American citizen without American knowledge or consent.

    That said, this is an article based primarily on a first hand account from a single source and worth treating skeptically to that extent. Listen to the kid’s account and he sounds believable for the little that is worth. The New York Times article’s only other source was Gulet’s brother and a whole bunch of no comments – FBI, state department and Kuwait’s embassy. These allegations are, however, worth paying attention. Furthermore, Gulet is claiming to be in a situation we know for a fact others are in – exiled from the US by being put on the no-fly list. It’s a credible complaint worth critical analysis and following up on.

  15. #15 |  rapscallion | 

    It’s only a matter of time before the cops start going after the superhero wannabes. It’s going to be ugly.

  16. #16 |  wesFC | 

    WHAT’S in the water in west lafayette?

  17. #17 |  Irving Washington | 

    qwints, that’s just an odd defense. Greenwald doesn’t limit the statements as you did, and the bigger question is who are the officials whose statements Greenwald relies on for the conclusion that this guy is being excluded from the US.

    As for Kuwait being as you and Greenwald describe, that’s exactly what I’m disputing. Kuwait has asserted its independence from US foreign policy quite strongly since liberation. It’s simply not the pushover you and Greenwald claim.

    I 100% agree that the story is both credible and worthy of follow up, but I stand by my critique of Greewald’s piece as sloppy.

  18. #18 |  the innominate one | 

    It’s not sloppy, it’s preliminary. It’s a breaking story. Some of the particulars are probably wrong. If the government isn’t involved, why all the “no comments” instead of denials?

    That said, Greenwald leaps to a lot of conclusions in the piece. Perhaps not fully justified by the evidence in this particular case, but understandable given the government’s behavior in many other cases.

  19. #19 |  Kevin3% | 

    What the fuck was that about women laughing alone with salad and men laughing alone with fruit salad?

    WTF? WTF? WTF?!!!

  20. #20 |  Aresen | 

    From the “Muslim Infiltration of CPAC” item:

    Frank Gaffney, a leader of the conservative movement for the last 30 years, charges that CPAC has come under the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is working to bring America under Saudi-style Shariah law.

    I’m not sure why that bothers him so much. From what I have heard of Sharia Law, the Christian Right would be perfectly happy with it: Deprivation of rights for women and gays, capital punishment for sexual offences, execution of drug users, barbaric punishments for petty crimes, death for blasphemy….

  21. #21 |  celticdragonchick | 

    U.S. citizen abducted, tortured in Kuwait, now denied entry back into the U.S., all with no explanation.

    What. The. Fuck.

    My God. I really think it is time to look at leaving the country.

  22. #22 |  qwints | 

    @Irving, maybe you’re right but I still doubt that a US ally would hold and torture US citizens without permission. Greenwald was certainly writing in his usual hyperbolic style.

  23. #23 |  perlhaqr | 

    celticdragonchick: Just make sure you’re ok with not coming back in, first…

    Ha ha only serious. :(

  24. #24 |  Les | 

    #13, how does Greenwald “suck, in general?”

  25. #25 |  Highway | 

    Aresen,

    It doesn’t matter if they’d be just as repressive and controlling as the Christian Right would want to be. All that matters is that they’re doing it in the name of their heathen ‘god’, not the *real* God.

    “My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend!”

  26. #26 |  nando | 

    Re: US Citizen torture,

    I understand he’s on the no fly list, so he can’t fly into the US, but could he fly on a non-American flagged airline to Canada or Mexico and drive in, using his passport? I mean, he’s not on a no-drive list, is he?

  27. #27 |  Aresen | 

    Highway: True. I thought I was implying that.

    Nando: The problem is that the DHS expects (almost demands) that foreign airlines comply with their ‘no-fly’ list. If they don’t, they risk losing their right to land at US airports or even fly over US airspace.

  28. #28 |  croaker | 

    @26 As past experience shows, both Canada and Mexico will detain and question harshly (and turn over to the US Gestapo) anyone on the US no-fly list that shows up.

  29. #29 |  edmund dantes | 

    Problem is being under a deportation order. It makes it hard for you to get on a plane that is going anywhere but to your destination of “home”.

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