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		<title>By: The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Hope n’ Change: Pardon Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-434707</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liberty Papers &#187;Blog Archive &#187; Hope n’ Change: Pardon Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-434271</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The average cop makes the same.&lt;/i&gt;

Again, salary is just a marker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The average cop makes the same.</i></p>
<p>Again, salary is just a marker.</p>
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		<title>By: Elroy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-434197</link>
		<dc:creator>Elroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently Obama did not pardon all the turkeys, I see it was still on the menu:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/white-house-thanksgiving-menu.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Obama did not pardon all the turkeys, I see it was still on the menu:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/white-house-thanksgiving-menu.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/white-house-thanksgiving-menu.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-434060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ EH,

The average teacher makes over 50,000 a year.

http://www.bls.gov/k12/help01.htm#pay

The average cop makes the same.

http://www.bls.gov/k12/law01.htm#pay

The average for an American in the US is 46,000.  So they do better than your average Joe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ EH,</p>
<p>The average teacher makes over 50,000 a year.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bls.gov/k12/help01.htm#pay" rel="nofollow">http://www.bls.gov/k12/help01.htm#pay</a></p>
<p>The average cop makes the same.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bls.gov/k12/law01.htm#pay" rel="nofollow">http://www.bls.gov/k12/law01.htm#pay</a></p>
<p>The average for an American in the US is 46,000.  So they do better than your average Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-434036</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also: TSA backs down, in a way:
http://noblasters.com/post/1650102322/my-tsa-encounter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: TSA backs down, in a way:<br />
<a href="http://noblasters.com/post/1650102322/my-tsa-encounter" rel="nofollow">http://noblasters.com/post/1650102322/my-tsa-encounter</a></p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mattocracy: Teachers don&#039;t get paid enough and there is nothing &quot;same for cops.&quot; Cops make most of their money from overtime, pension, and corruption. Salary is just a marker to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mattocracy: Teachers don&#8217;t get paid enough and there is nothing &#8220;same for cops.&#8221; Cops make most of their money from overtime, pension, and corruption. Salary is just a marker to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433987</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much do you tip a janitor?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much do you tip a janitor?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433980</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair enough about the stadium subsidies.  

And I&#039;m tired of hearing about teachers not making any money.  As stated above, they make serious money through tenure.  Same for cops.  I don&#039;t know how this myth continues that gov&#039;t employees don&#039;t make any money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough about the stadium subsidies.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m tired of hearing about teachers not making any money.  As stated above, they make serious money through tenure.  Same for cops.  I don&#8217;t know how this myth continues that gov&#8217;t employees don&#8217;t make any money.</p>
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		<title>By: boomshanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>boomshanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#11 &#124;  J sub D

Find me a billion dollar company that &lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; receive targeted tax breaks or subsidies. But we can all get angry at a few janitors who managed to make a good living in NYC (irrespective of the allegations of misconduct).  Who knows, maybe they were just smarter than the rest of us 22 years ago when we passed on the opportunity to take the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 |  J sub D</p>
<p>Find me a billion dollar company that <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> receive targeted tax breaks or subsidies. But we can all get angry at a few janitors who managed to make a good living in NYC (irrespective of the allegations of misconduct).  Who knows, maybe they were just smarter than the rest of us 22 years ago when we passed on the opportunity to take the job.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433959</link>
		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vishnu: Base pay of $106,000 is still an outrageous robbery of the taxpayers. Advertise a janitors job for 1/3 of that and you&#039;ll have applicants lined up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vishnu: Base pay of $106,000 is still an outrageous robbery of the taxpayers. Advertise a janitors job for 1/3 of that and you&#8217;ll have applicants lined up.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433958</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the fact that Conyers read &lt;i&gt;Playboy&lt;/i&gt; in public of note?  Who does that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the fact that Conyers read <i>Playboy</i> in public of note?  Who does that?</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433956</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listing Jim Koch, the founder of Sam Adams brewery, as a &quot;chocolate beer expert&quot; is kinda insulting.  It&#039;s like lumping Bill Gates with the Geek squad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listing Jim Koch, the founder of Sam Adams brewery, as a &#8220;chocolate beer expert&#8221; is kinda insulting.  It&#8217;s like lumping Bill Gates with the Geek squad.</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/11/26/morning-links-403/comment-page-1/#comment-433939</link>
		<dc:creator>BSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_150_if-tsa-security-measures-were-even-more-invasive_p2]]></description>
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		<title>By: Laura Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it just me, or is it real easy to caricature the stupid name of Rapiscan as Rapescan?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is it real easy to caricature the stupid name of Rapiscan as Rapescan?</p>
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		<title>By: Vishnu Schist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vishnu Schist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the statement that the $140,000 was achieved through &quot;massive overtime&quot; doesn&#039;t count.  Where does it say that base pay was $140,000 per year? It actually states that they max out at about $106,000.  So I could see a person working significant overtime getting to $140,000 from a base of $106,000.  On another note, the outrage seems to stem from the fact that a public employee is making a good living.  The assumption here is that they are grifting the rest of the fine upstanding taxpayers.  Then there is the common &quot;I would love to make blah blah blah my first job out of podunk community college&quot;.  Perhaps the market for veteran janitors in NYC is in the $100,000 range.  Maybe these guys or gals are the only folks keeping the school infrastructure running, who knows.  I don&#039;t know if it requires a sixth grade education or maybe just busting your ass day in and day out.  If they make that much good for them, they are probably pretty good at what they do.  No less than Ayn Rand in her fantasy novels glorified the &quot;bus expertly steered&quot;, they are public employees no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the statement that the $140,000 was achieved through &#8220;massive overtime&#8221; doesn&#8217;t count.  Where does it say that base pay was $140,000 per year? It actually states that they max out at about $106,000.  So I could see a person working significant overtime getting to $140,000 from a base of $106,000.  On another note, the outrage seems to stem from the fact that a public employee is making a good living.  The assumption here is that they are grifting the rest of the fine upstanding taxpayers.  Then there is the common &#8220;I would love to make blah blah blah my first job out of podunk community college&#8221;.  Perhaps the market for veteran janitors in NYC is in the $100,000 range.  Maybe these guys or gals are the only folks keeping the school infrastructure running, who knows.  I don&#8217;t know if it requires a sixth grade education or maybe just busting your ass day in and day out.  If they make that much good for them, they are probably pretty good at what they do.  No less than Ayn Rand in her fantasy novels glorified the &#8220;bus expertly steered&#8221;, they are public employees no?</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J sub D-

you beat me to it- anyone who doesn&#039;t think sports salaries aren&#039;t at least funded in part by taxpayers has not been paying attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J sub D-</p>
<p>you beat me to it- anyone who doesn&#8217;t think sports salaries aren&#8217;t at least funded in part by taxpayers has not been paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
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		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, for one, am willing to cut John Conyers some slack for his choice in reading material.  If your wife was facing 3 years prison time, wouldn&#039;t you be checking out what&#039;s available elsewhere?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, am willing to cut John Conyers some slack for his choice in reading material.  If your wife was facing 3 years prison time, wouldn&#8217;t you be checking out what&#8217;s available elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
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		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t have to pay for part of Derek’s salary if I don’t want to. That’s the difference between the private and public sector.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?  Ya think so?

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/2009/01/3496_nyc_baseball_st.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Field of Schemes&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Yankees&#039; new stadium is now the most expensive ever even imagined, coming in at a staggering $2.3 billion. That includes its attendant parking garages and replacement parkland, but even the stadium construction budget alone is incredible, now standing at $1.56 billion.
Of that, the public - city, state, and federal taxpayers - are now covering just shy of $1.2 billion, by far the largest stadium subsidy ever. In fact, even discounting the $417 million in property-tax breaks (if you&#039;re inclined to agree with Lieber), it&#039;s still the largest stadium subsidy ever. The Yankees, meanwhile, would be on the hook for just $670 million, after counting property-tax breaks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Money is fungible.  Every subsidy/tax break provided to the owners new toys (stadiums are some sort of &quot;I&#039;ve got a bigger dick&quot; thing among owners) contributes to the pot of maoney available for payroll.  So yeah, you&#039;re contributing to Jeter&#039;s salary whether or not you go to games, buy the merchandise or watch them  on the idiot box. 

The above does not justify paying someone $140,000 annually to do a job that only requires a sixth grade education and the ability to lean on a broom, but dammit, shouldn&#039;t we stop subsidizing billionaire owners and their millionaire employees to do something they&#039;d be doing anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t have to pay for part of Derek’s salary if I don’t want to. That’s the difference between the private and public sector.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  Ya think so?</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/2009/01/3496_nyc_baseball_st.html" rel="nofollow">Field of Schemes</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The Yankees&#8217; new stadium is now the most expensive ever even imagined, coming in at a staggering $2.3 billion. That includes its attendant parking garages and replacement parkland, but even the stadium construction budget alone is incredible, now standing at $1.56 billion.<br />
Of that, the public &#8211; city, state, and federal taxpayers &#8211; are now covering just shy of $1.2 billion, by far the largest stadium subsidy ever. In fact, even discounting the $417 million in property-tax breaks (if you&#8217;re inclined to agree with Lieber), it&#8217;s still the largest stadium subsidy ever. The Yankees, meanwhile, would be on the hook for just $670 million, after counting property-tax breaks.</p></blockquote>
<p>Money is fungible.  Every subsidy/tax break provided to the owners new toys (stadiums are some sort of &#8220;I&#8217;ve got a bigger dick&#8221; thing among owners) contributes to the pot of maoney available for payroll.  So yeah, you&#8217;re contributing to Jeter&#8217;s salary whether or not you go to games, buy the merchandise or watch them  on the idiot box. </p>
<p>The above does not justify paying someone $140,000 annually to do a job that only requires a sixth grade education and the ability to lean on a broom, but dammit, shouldn&#8217;t we stop subsidizing billionaire owners and their millionaire employees to do something they&#8217;d be doing anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miami cops up to their  old tricks.  
Getting beaten by cops is  a  serious offense.
 The US, desparate for a rationale for  war,   should have accused Iraq of &quot;resisting an invasion&quot;
when the WMD  thing fell apart.

Usually Chris  Matthews tries to be non-partisan, but
his  whole approach on  the  nudie  scans is &quot;Come on, grow up.&quot;
Is that what maturity is, surrendering the the State?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miami cops up to their  old tricks.<br />
Getting beaten by cops is  a  serious offense.<br />
 The US, desparate for a rationale for  war,   should have accused Iraq of &#8220;resisting an invasion&#8221;<br />
when the WMD  thing fell apart.</p>
<p>Usually Chris  Matthews tries to be non-partisan, but<br />
his  whole approach on  the  nudie  scans is &#8220;Come on, grow up.&#8221;<br />
Is that what maturity is, surrendering the the State?</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Barack Obama pardon count: Turkeys-4, Humans-0.&gt;/i&gt;

He should pardon Charlie Rangel.

Then it would be 5 - 0

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Barack Obama pardon count: Turkeys-4, Humans-0.&gt;/i&gt;</p>
<p>He should pardon Charlie Rangel.</p>
<p>Then it would be 5 &#8211; 0</p>
<p>:)</i></p>
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