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Nice! It’s annoying; I often mention to people that elections have always been as nasty as they are today (if not nastier), and nobody ever wants to believe it.
Politicians describing politicians – OK – so what else is new?
#3 |
Judas Peckerwood |
October 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I have no problem with politicians slandering each other, so long as the words come out of their own mouths and aren’t laundered through third parties.
Funny. Just tracking down one of the quotes: “Jefferson is the son of a half-breed Indian squaw raised on hoe-cakes.”
Monticello Foundation notes: “Various printed sources claim that Thomas Jefferson was labeled by his political opponents in the election of 1800 as ‘…a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father…’. To date we have not found this quotation in any sources contemporary to the election of 1800…”
This was most likely an over-the-top spoof meant to ridicule the politics of the day, written about 80 years after the election in question.
That was awesome and makes the point better than the attempts I have made trying to explain negative ads are as American as apple pie. The ads I have a problem with are people running for an office campaigning on issues that the office has nothing to do with. In Florida the Republican candidate for Attorney General is running on job creation and balancing the federal budget.
#6 |
True Child of the 60s |
October 29th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Libertarian: Im introducing a bill that will close all international military bases, ween out entitlement programs, kill the war on drugs and legalize gay marriage.
Conservative: You cant do that! How will we be able to kill Arabs, Muslims, and Pashtuns effectively? If you let those deviants marry, then pedophiles will have a green light and wasps will be targeted! You want to poison our children!
Liberal: We cant end our socialists programs, think of the poor, the children and the votes! Closing our bases is a bad idea since our guy is in charge now. We like killing them too!
Libertarian: Fine let settle this like men and step outside. (grabs sword, bass knuckles, shotgun, pistol and AK-47)
Well, societies with legalized dueling weren’t particularly known for their civility, aside from romanticized fictional accounts. Since even people in so-called “honor and shame” societies are not suicidal drones, widespread acceptability of dueling actually leads to endemic gang warfare and street fighting, as people seek to improve their chances of surviving disagreements by teaming up with friends or relatives and making use of proactive ambushes of people they don’t like. This dynamic occurred in late medieval Europe as martial arts/fencing schools started popping up, originally with the idea of teaching individuals how to survive in judicial duels or warfare; they became notorious for the violent gang-like behavior of students and adherents.
I’d rather not pin hopes for political change on the personal badassery of people who share my broad political sentiments. It probably averages out pretty much the same in any group in the US, so all we’re left with is a numbers game…
#22 |
Helmut O' Hooligan |
October 30th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Very nice. H/T to the folks at Reason.
By the way, all this time I thought that hoe cakes were a modern snack, often enjoyed with pimp juice. Looks like I need to brush up on my traditional American foods ; )
Nice! It’s annoying; I often mention to people that elections have always been as nasty as they are today (if not nastier), and nobody ever wants to believe it.
Now there’s a handy video.
Politicians describing politicians – OK – so what else is new?
I have no problem with politicians slandering each other, so long as the words come out of their own mouths and aren’t laundered through third parties.
Have at it, says I!
Funny. Just tracking down one of the quotes: “Jefferson is the son of a half-breed Indian squaw raised on hoe-cakes.”
Monticello Foundation notes: “Various printed sources claim that Thomas Jefferson was labeled by his political opponents in the election of 1800 as ‘…a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father…’. To date we have not found this quotation in any sources contemporary to the election of 1800…”
This was most likely an over-the-top spoof meant to ridicule the politics of the day, written about 80 years after the election in question.
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/%22Son_of_a_half-breed_Indian_squaw…%22
That was awesome and makes the point better than the attempts I have made trying to explain negative ads are as American as apple pie. The ads I have a problem with are people running for an office campaigning on issues that the office has nothing to do with. In Florida the Republican candidate for Attorney General is running on job creation and balancing the federal budget.
I don’t get it…
A partial correction: Caleb Brown and Austin Bragg are from Cato.
The Founding Fathers would have been against McCain Feingold. They liked to fight.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about this election. Talk about disenfranchised…
Well. Sure. Those wimps had shit dug up on them. What were they going to do? Use their super powers?
Now… Washington, he was 6 foot 8 and weighted a fucking ton!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA
Noone was going to mess with his shit.
can we bring back duels?
Here’s an interesting radio segment about the guys who do the voiceovers for those ads: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6444183 It gets pretty funny around 3:20.
I would rather a law saying that we could dig shit up on them than the opposite law.
just sayin’
And neither do Jefferson, McKinley, Rosevellt or Clinton.
What they did in their personal lives is not my business.
I only consider their policies.
Jefferson and Adams were patriots. But they disagreed on philosophical and policy issues. And they fought about it.
That is the way politics should be.
And in the end they made up and died on the same day, fifty years to the day after the Declaration was signed.
I would love this scenario;
Libertarian: Im introducing a bill that will close all international military bases, ween out entitlement programs, kill the war on drugs and legalize gay marriage.
Conservative: You cant do that! How will we be able to kill Arabs, Muslims, and Pashtuns effectively? If you let those deviants marry, then pedophiles will have a green light and wasps will be targeted! You want to poison our children!
Liberal: We cant end our socialists programs, think of the poor, the children and the votes! Closing our bases is a bad idea since our guy is in charge now. We like killing them too!
Libertarian: Fine let settle this like men and step outside. (grabs sword, bass knuckles, shotgun, pistol and AK-47)
I think legalized dueling would be a boon to civility nationwide.
Now, I want to see Radley pwn “Humboldt Blue” in the same language.
@18 I see no reason for Radley to waste any more effort on the oxygen thief than he already has.
#17,
Well, societies with legalized dueling weren’t particularly known for their civility, aside from romanticized fictional accounts. Since even people in so-called “honor and shame” societies are not suicidal drones, widespread acceptability of dueling actually leads to endemic gang warfare and street fighting, as people seek to improve their chances of surviving disagreements by teaming up with friends or relatives and making use of proactive ambushes of people they don’t like. This dynamic occurred in late medieval Europe as martial arts/fencing schools started popping up, originally with the idea of teaching individuals how to survive in judicial duels or warfare; they became notorious for the violent gang-like behavior of students and adherents.
#16,
I’d rather not pin hopes for political change on the personal badassery of people who share my broad political sentiments. It probably averages out pretty much the same in any group in the US, so all we’re left with is a numbers game…
Very nice. H/T to the folks at Reason.
By the way, all this time I thought that hoe cakes were a modern snack, often enjoyed with pimp juice. Looks like I need to brush up on my traditional American foods ; )
Dear Bob @10
If there were a button for +1000000 karma, i would be spamming it right now.
He’ll save children, but not the British children.