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Monday, October 4th, 2010

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65 Responses to “Lunch Links”

  1. #1 |  Cynical in CA | 

    No Joe — force, reality. Potatoe, potahtoe.

    There, corrected it for you.

  2. #2 |  croaker | 

    @14 Which is why the preferred solution to such slime is shoot, shovel, and shut up.

    @23 I take comfort in the knowledge that some family members will soon even the score. Or is that just wishful thinking? I know that if some scum only got probation for raping one of MY nieces, the sumbitch had better watch his six.

    @24 At this point I’d take anarchy, thank you.

    @28 Okinawa : Japan :: Nevada/Utah : USA

    @30 Reality check: Most of those countries have a few US Marines as embassy guards. They’re not really there to spread Pax Americana.

  3. #3 |  JS | 

    Dr. T:×1341066

    The most common figure quoted is 800 military bases in 140 countries. Chalmers Johnson estimates higher. And of course these are just the ones that we know of.

  4. #4 |  JS | 

    croaker “@30 Reality check: Most of those countries have a few US Marines as embassy guards. They’re not really there to spread Pax Americana.”

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed it but there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of pax in the Pax Americana these days.

  5. #5 |  Henry Bowman | 

    Commenter #16 (Mike) makes a plausibly good point. Havings 5-10 U.S. military personnel in a country really is not significant. Are they counting Marines at embassies, as well (they should not count, as embassies are considered U.S. property)? Anyway, it would be nice to see a table of the number of U.S. military personnel by country [including the U.S.].

    However, to me at least, it’s time to exit Japan, Germany, and Korea.

  6. #6 |  Joe | 

    We have bases in Okinawa because of its location. It is just a few hours away from everything worth bombing in Asia. The Philippines are not an option anymore and Guam is too far away.

    Seriously, that is why.

    Why are we spending that kind of money? Our own interest is clearly part of it. It is a legacy of dealing with the cold war and it is not like North Korea is going away. And of course there is always Taiwan. And China. And Japan. Things could go to shit pretty quickly.

    While it might sound good to cut it all completely, that would be a mistake. Personally I suspect a lot of this can be substantially cut back without compromising security. If we are going to ever get serious about cutting entitlements, we need to scale back defense spending too.

  7. #7 |  Joe | 

    We have a series of air bases all over the world. Greenland, the Azores, Spain, Germany, Kuwait, Qutar, Diego Garcia, Guam, etc. That may be expensive, but it is really not that expensive and it may be money well spent.

    Large numbers of troops should be moved closer to home.

  8. #8 |  SusanK | 

    Danny (#41)
    A lot of juvenile centers work this way:
    We have a one-year program. If you follow the program, you can be “rehabilitated” and released in a year. If you do not follow the program or make progress on “your goals”, then you will continue in the program until (1) we are satisfied that you are a good, upstanding piece of state machinery or (2) you reach maximum age.
    Most states do not allow incarceration for juveniles (because, after all, they are kids), but they do have locked “treatment” facilities that, for all intents and purposes, are simply kiddie jails.

  9. #9 |  Peter Ramins | 

    So I was idly flipping channels just now and a rerun of “The Closer” was on. The plot-reveal involved an immigration officer who was raping young female illegals, and then deporting them. At the end of the show there was a big standoff where had a hostage because he knew he was in big trouble if he let himself be captured, and it ended with the heroine’s FBI husband shooting him.

    I think this is a big part of the problem. Take Law & Order or any of the other generic “Cop Drama” shows – all the police hate Internal Affairs because it’s made to look like IA is out to destroy LEOs’ lives, to take them to task, to hold them accountable. Hell, most of these shows go so far as to make it seem like IA is willing to consider the slightest most circumstantial bit of evidence as ‘proof’ that an officer or detective is corrupt.

    Then you see the reality in stories like this one, where a LEO gets probation for multiple rapes.

    There is such a profound disconnect between the popular notion of police policing their own, of the system holding them accountable too, and the reality, which is more like “get out of jail free badges” and “prosecutorial discretion.”

    This is absolutely disgusting in every way. It is a massive indictment of the system’s failure.

    It’s one more reason among many that a ‘Society for Aesthetic Deletions’ looks more and more attractive every day.

    Who among you thinks the Justice System actually doles out justice now? Lady Justice has a police scanner on one scale and a wad of cash on the other, and the generic masses with no political connections or civil servant jobs are out of frame, under her hobnailed boots.

  10. #10 |  JS | 

    Peter Ramins, great post!

  11. #11 |  billy-jay | 

    Japan pays a shitload of money to keep American bases.

    Also, Okinawa used to be its own kingdom and has its own culture. The U.S. kept Okinawa for itself until the early 70s and then sold it back to the Japanese. Okinawa is also among the poorest and least influential areas in Japan. The national government is okay with the majority of U.S. troops in Japan being in Okinawa.

  12. #12 |  Derfel Cadarn | 

    Simmons: This scumbag should be thrown in prison where the ensuing activities might be considered punishment if violent enough. Life no parole
    Toronto: Huzzah! These ladies get my respect.
    Solve the budget problems: Get out of the business of American Empire! You will find that minding ones own fucking business is very cost effective. 156 out of 202= empire

  13. #13 |  Ric_in_OR | 

    Military in Japan –

    We have bases other than Okinawa.

    For example: Yokosuka. It is due south of Tokyo.

    We keep the Navy there to protect against <a href="; Godzilla

  14. #14 |  André | 

    @Peter Ramins:

    Friend’s dad is a lawyer who has done police brutality cases. He made a point of telling me that we don’t have a justice system, we have a legal system. Any overlap between the two is coincidental.

  15. #15 |  Eric_in_AK | 

    He is not a politician, but I’ll bet a small amount of money that the Allegedly Reverend Fred Phelps (of picketing funerals fame) will be outed sometime soon.