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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-2/#comment-416237</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now &quot;they want Craigslist to be &quot;a model for good policy&quot; and officially get rid of its adult services section globally.&quot;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/08/craigslist-urged-to-kill-_n_708678.html

Apparently giving them what they want in the states wasn&#039;t good enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now &#8220;they want Craigslist to be &#8220;a model for good policy&#8221; and officially get rid of its adult services section globally.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/08/craigslist-urged-to-kill-_n_708678.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/08/craigslist-urged-to-kill-_n_708678.html</a></p>
<p>Apparently giving them what they want in the states wasn&#8217;t good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-416087</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem in Missouri has a simple answer, if lawmakers have the guts. Simply, for every dollar seized which doesn&#039;t go to schools as the law requires, a dollar is removed from the policing budget and added to the schools budget. i.e. One way or another.

Won&#039;t happen, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem in Missouri has a simple answer, if lawmakers have the guts. Simply, for every dollar seized which doesn&#8217;t go to schools as the law requires, a dollar is removed from the policing budget and added to the schools budget. i.e. One way or another.</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t happen, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415995</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Protesting content is not the same as protesting the right to speak&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Muslim protests are usually protesting the latter, not the former, and calling for someone&#039;s death is pretty much the ultimate form of protesting the right to speak.

You might not be aware, but multiple people died in Pakistan in various incidents that were cited as a response to the Danish cartoons.  It&#039;s strange that people try to equate such violence to a simple protestation of the content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Protesting content is not the same as protesting the right to speak</p></blockquote>
<p>Muslim protests are usually protesting the latter, not the former, and calling for someone&#8217;s death is pretty much the ultimate form of protesting the right to speak.</p>
<p>You might not be aware, but multiple people died in Pakistan in various incidents that were cited as a response to the Danish cartoons.  It&#8217;s strange that people try to equate such violence to a simple protestation of the content.</p>
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		<title>By: SagatAdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415945</link>
		<dc:creator>SagatAdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think people who are more educated in general are more polite and reasonable.  It&#039;s just surprising when people find out that this truism applies to cops too.  Especially since people think most cops are drunk on power anyway: http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2010/07/21/farewell-cool-cops-hello-too-much-police-power/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people who are more educated in general are more polite and reasonable.  It&#8217;s just surprising when people find out that this truism applies to cops too.  Especially since people think most cops are drunk on power anyway: <a href="http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2010/07/21/farewell-cool-cops-hello-too-much-police-power/" rel="nofollow">http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2010/07/21/farewell-cool-cops-hello-too-much-police-power/</a></p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415935</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every now and again a study come out and surprises us, This one should be of NO surprise at all. 

But some will be anyway. 

Always remember, Uniform, badge, gun = instant HERO status!  

Ok 4 yr degree required and they should be no younger than say 38!  

Mostly they should only watch Andy Griffith reruns for REAL training!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every now and again a study come out and surprises us, This one should be of NO surprise at all. </p>
<p>But some will be anyway. </p>
<p>Always remember, Uniform, badge, gun = instant HERO status!  </p>
<p>Ok 4 yr degree required and they should be no younger than say 38!  </p>
<p>Mostly they should only watch Andy Griffith reruns for REAL training!</p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415883</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[InMD, the average zombie movie is a an accurate reproduction of the Redskins since 1992.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>InMD, the average zombie movie is a an accurate reproduction of the Redskins since 1992.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415872</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eapen Thampy on Missouri’s asset forfeiture laws.

How about they just tax the PD&#039;s 100% of any assest forfeiture money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eapen Thampy on Missouri’s asset forfeiture laws.</p>
<p>How about they just tax the PD&#8217;s 100% of any assest forfeiture money.</p>
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		<title>By: InMD</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415868</link>
		<dc:creator>InMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a lifelong Washington Redskins fan I could only laugh at the awesome post on the Cowgirls and cry at the horrendously accurate portrait of the Skins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifelong Washington Redskins fan I could only laugh at the awesome post on the Cowgirls and cry at the horrendously accurate portrait of the Skins.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415855</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So very sad that the ones who use less force are the ones who use it a mere 56% of the time...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very sad that the ones who use less force are the ones who use it a mere 56% of the time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415853</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to (indirectly) work for Peretz.  Maybe it&#039;s a good thing the company went belly up...hope he lost a shitload of VC cash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to (indirectly) work for Peretz.  Maybe it&#8217;s a good thing the company went belly up&#8230;hope he lost a shitload of VC cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415840</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
&#124;  Pete S &#124;  September 7th, 2010 at 12:53 pm 
Remeber a few years back when a police department refused to hire a guy because he tested too high on his IQ test….
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Over 80?]]></description>
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|  Pete S |  September 7th, 2010 at 12:53 pm<br />
Remeber a few years back when a police department refused to hire a guy because he tested too high on his IQ test….
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<p>Over 80?</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415834</link>
		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As bad as you just did?*  
I don&#039;t know why I ever thought the left was better on civil liberties than the right as they are equally atrocious.

* Just put a string of obscenities, profanities, and vitriolic denunciations of Marty Peretz&#039;s humanity, decency, ancestry, sexual proclivities  and DNA makeup here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.</p></blockquote>
<p>As bad as you just did?*<br />
I don&#8217;t know why I ever thought the left was better on civil liberties than the right as they are equally atrocious.</p>
<p>* Just put a string of obscenities, profanities, and vitriolic denunciations of Marty Peretz&#8217;s humanity, decency, ancestry, sexual proclivities  and DNA makeup here.</p>
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		<title>By: qwints</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415832</link>
		<dc:creator>qwints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To clarify, Muslims, like everyone else, have a natural right to free speech which Congress is constitutionally from making a law to restrict. They are aboslutely free to claim (and I&#039;ve got no problem with them claiming) that there is no God but Allah, that dogs are unclean or that making a visual depiction of Mohammed is offensive. I even believe that, in most cases, respecting the sensitivities of others is a great idea if it&#039;s not a big deal. I do my best to avoid pointless offense by avoiding certain langauge most of the time.

That doesn&#039;t change the fact that there are countless examples of certain Muslims using violence and intimidation to try and silence those they disagree with. Only a very small minority may actually commit violence and many Muslims have condemned such efforts, but few would argue that criticism of Islam is risky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, Muslims, like everyone else, have a natural right to free speech which Congress is constitutionally from making a law to restrict. They are aboslutely free to claim (and I&#8217;ve got no problem with them claiming) that there is no God but Allah, that dogs are unclean or that making a visual depiction of Mohammed is offensive. I even believe that, in most cases, respecting the sensitivities of others is a great idea if it&#8217;s not a big deal. I do my best to avoid pointless offense by avoiding certain langauge most of the time.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t change the fact that there are countless examples of certain Muslims using violence and intimidation to try and silence those they disagree with. Only a very small minority may actually commit violence and many Muslims have condemned such efforts, but few would argue that criticism of Islam is risky.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415829</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay!!!  A college-educated cop is less likely to shoot my brains out than a GED cop.  I feel SO much better.

Newsflash -- any police officer is force &quot;a priori.&quot;

A police officer merely existing, not even acting, is force.  The potential to act with force counts as force -- that&#039;s logical enough.

But even before that, police officers are paid with tax (read: stolen) money.  That money has to be taken by force.

There is no meaningful way to differentiate between qualities of force regarding police officers.  To treat actual physical violence as the only force worthy of consideration is to not see the forest for the trees.

It&#039;s the kinder, gentler machine-gun hand of which Neil Young sang.

It is ALL violence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!!!  A college-educated cop is less likely to shoot my brains out than a GED cop.  I feel SO much better.</p>
<p>Newsflash &#8212; any police officer is force &#8220;a priori.&#8221;</p>
<p>A police officer merely existing, not even acting, is force.  The potential to act with force counts as force &#8212; that&#8217;s logical enough.</p>
<p>But even before that, police officers are paid with tax (read: stolen) money.  That money has to be taken by force.</p>
<p>There is no meaningful way to differentiate between qualities of force regarding police officers.  To treat actual physical violence as the only force worthy of consideration is to not see the forest for the trees.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the kinder, gentler machine-gun hand of which Neil Young sang.</p>
<p>It is ALL violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415827</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Marty Peretz, editor of The New Republic, says the First Amendment is a privilege...&quot;

You&#039;re just upset because Peretz speaks the truth, and he might just get himself in trouble with the establishment because of said truth-telling.

Of course the Bill of Rights lists privileges.  The State can do whatever it can get away with, whatever its agents are willing to justify.  Who&#039;s going to stop them?

Is not a major portion of this blog devoted to daily transgressions against the U.S. Constitution by State agents?

&quot;None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.&quot;  J.W. Von Goethe

Mr. Peretz gives a healthy dose of reality, most probably unintentional and oblivious, but reality nonetheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Marty Peretz, editor of The New Republic, says the First Amendment is a privilege&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just upset because Peretz speaks the truth, and he might just get himself in trouble with the establishment because of said truth-telling.</p>
<p>Of course the Bill of Rights lists privileges.  The State can do whatever it can get away with, whatever its agents are willing to justify.  Who&#8217;s going to stop them?</p>
<p>Is not a major portion of this blog devoted to daily transgressions against the U.S. Constitution by State agents?</p>
<p>&#8220;None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.&#8221;  J.W. Von Goethe</p>
<p>Mr. Peretz gives a healthy dose of reality, most probably unintentional and oblivious, but reality nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: ClubMedSux</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415825</link>
		<dc:creator>ClubMedSux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Also, the term “male-centric” was used to describe my outlook. Thanks a lot Radley, this is going to be a fun fight after work tonight.&lt;/i&gt;
...
&lt;i&gt;Rhayader, my beloved is a big-time feminist and my best advice for you is to try not to provoke these kinds of arguments.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for reminding me how awesome my wife is.  &lt;i&gt;She&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; the one who introduced &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; to the Agitator.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, the term “male-centric” was used to describe my outlook. Thanks a lot Radley, this is going to be a fun fight after work tonight.</i><br />
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<i>Rhayader, my beloved is a big-time feminist and my best advice for you is to try not to provoke these kinds of arguments.</i></p>
<p>Thanks for reminding me how awesome my wife is.  <i>She&#8217;s</i> the one who introduced <i>me</i> to the Agitator.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a perfect illustration of my point, actually.  If a police officer&#039;s every direction is backed by the potential use of force, then any demarcation is impossible because every encounter with an officer involves the use of force.  IS the difference overt threat of force?  How much of a threat qualifies?  Put your hands where I can see them [or else I might shoot you].  Is that use of force?  I don&#039;t know.  That&#039;s why I&#039;d like to see the data separated out so I can see the difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a perfect illustration of my point, actually.  If a police officer&#8217;s every direction is backed by the potential use of force, then any demarcation is impossible because every encounter with an officer involves the use of force.  IS the difference overt threat of force?  How much of a threat qualifies?  Put your hands where I can see them [or else I might shoot you].  Is that use of force?  I don&#8217;t know.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;d like to see the data separated out so I can see the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhayader</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415818</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhayader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chuchundra: Yeah, you&#039;d think I&#039;d have learned my lesson after the umpteenth argument about drug prohibition, but apparently not.

And no, it&#039;s not foreplay, although your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chuchundra: Yeah, you&#8217;d think I&#8217;d have learned my lesson after the umpteenth argument about drug prohibition, but apparently not.</p>
<p>And no, it&#8217;s not foreplay, although your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/09/07/morning-links-375/comment-page-1/#comment-415817</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“prostitution is abusive&quot;

Well, it certainly is abusive if it is only allowed as a part of the criminal underworld.  It&#039;d be interesting to see how quickly a sex-workers union cleaned up the business in a country where prositution is legal*.

Let&#039;s not forget that &quot;abusive&quot; shouldn&#039;t default to &quot;illegal&quot;.  Taxation is abusive.  But, I like the services I get from prostitution much better than what I get from taxation.

*I mean REALLY legal and not just &quot;legal&quot; where the Feds still raid you at gunpoint or regulate you so much as to still justify a blackmarket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“prostitution is abusive&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, it certainly is abusive if it is only allowed as a part of the criminal underworld.  It&#8217;d be interesting to see how quickly a sex-workers union cleaned up the business in a country where prositution is legal*.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that &#8220;abusive&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t default to &#8220;illegal&#8221;.  Taxation is abusive.  But, I like the services I get from prostitution much better than what I get from taxation.</p>
<p>*I mean REALLY legal and not just &#8220;legal&#8221; where the Feds still raid you at gunpoint or regulate you so much as to still justify a blackmarket.</p>
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		<title>By: tb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It does, however, skirt by a serious point that those who seek to supress speech should be condemned for doing so (e.g. those Muslims who rioted in response to the Danish cartoons or those who sought to condment Salman Rushdie to death). Many of those who have done the most to limit or destroy free speech in recent years have been Muslim.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Protesting &lt;i&gt;content&lt;/i&gt; is not the same as protesting the &lt;i&gt;right to speak&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It does, however, skirt by a serious point that those who seek to supress speech should be condemned for doing so (e.g. those Muslims who rioted in response to the Danish cartoons or those who sought to condment Salman Rushdie to death). Many of those who have done the most to limit or destroy free speech in recent years have been Muslim.</p></blockquote>
<p>Protesting <i>content</i> is not the same as protesting the <i>right to speak</i>.</p>
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