Friday Afternoon Links

Friday, September 3rd, 2010
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  1. #1 |  adolphus | 

    re: Arlington Police. Boy would they be shooting themselves in the foot. Cop and ambulance chasers (not the lawyers) love them their scanners and are among the police’s biggest fans and defenders. They love to hear something happen in their neighborhood and then they run out to their porches and listen for sirens and even run out to the scene of an accident to help control traffic or something. It’s a whole subculture of Dwight Schrutes, of which I sadly count my dad and not a small number of my neighbors as one.

    They cut this population off and all hell will break loose. It is small but vocal minority and hell hath no fury like a fan boy (or girl) scorned.

  2. #2 |  Joe | 

    “Apparently God doesn’t like immigrants, either.”

    I am a big proponent of greatly expanded legal immigration Radley. I think our current immigration policy sucks. I also support some sort of path to legal status for those who are here.

    But there has to be enforcement on illegal immigration. A quasi legal (or illegal) system is not the answer, so the status quo has to change. Arizona’s law is focused on the wrong target. The place to enforce illegal status is on employers, with civil fines that discourage employers hiring illegals.

  3. #3 |  Rhayader | 

    @adolphus: Yeah good call, everyone I know with a police scanner is a cop worshiper to some degree. Shit, we get pissed enough just reading Radley’s blog posts, who wants to listen to that crap all day? I’m sure there is the occasional masochist civil libertarian though, so the cops had better shut it down.

    RE: Immigrants — Gee, it’s almost like things work out like they should when innocent people have freedom of movement and association. But still: THEY TOOK URR JERRRRRBS!

  4. #4 |  Joe | 

    “The whittler shot by Seattle police was carrying a legal knife and was deaf in one ear. At least one witness is disputing the initial police reports.”

    I want all the evidence to come out on this one. I hope it does not get ignored because the victim (and he should be presumed to be a victim) was homeless. What prompted this officer to act in the first place?

    I hope people speak up.

  5. #5 |  Chris in AL | 

    So another paid vacation for another cop that murdered somebody who had violated no law. Our law enforcement has got to be the laughing stock of the world.

  6. #6 |  Joe | 

    everyone I know with a police scanner is a cop worshiper wannabee to some degree

    The “blue wall” orientation apparently starts in vitro.

  7. #7 |  MDW | 

    Is the link on that first bullet point correct?

  8. #8 |  marco73 | 

    re: police scanners – many of the older folks that I know who are shut ins have the police scanner on the coffee table. They listen at all hours, usually when they have trouble sleeping. And they are also the most devoted voting public around. They’ll take all day in cold and rain to get to the voting booth for even the most obscure elections. Go ahead and cut off their scanners, and then run for some public office. You’d lose dog catcher to Nixon’s corpse.

  9. #9 |  Stephen | 

    I agree with MDW, 1st bullet points to a prison beating and rape story.

  10. #10 |  hexag1 | 

    Radley,
    Your link to the story about the commutation of the death sentence for Kevin Keith is wrong. Here is the story:

    http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/article/20100903/NEWS01/9030311/1002/Citing–legitimate-questions—Gov.-spares-life

  11. #11 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “Alexandria, Virginia police want to prevent people from listening to police scanners, too.”

    It’s getting to the point where just seeing and hearing
    are considered “interference.” They need to start selling ear muffs
    and blinders at these cop shops and award
    complacent serfs with “Good citizen” trophies for never
    questioning their actions or butting in. Muzzles would be optional,
    remember, we’re at war, and loose lips sink ships.

  12. #12 |  Mike | 

    Radley, I don’t like defending Jan Brewer, who’s an idiot. But I didn’t read her remark as saying God put her in office. It crossed me as more of an offhand remark that came out badly — sort of like everything else she said during the debate.

  13. #13 |  Mattocracy | 

    The Seattle cop is younger than me. 27 and murderer of an innocent man. Shooting someone 4 times shows that he’s either a psychopath or panicked in the heat of the moment. Judging by the circumstances, he’s probably the former.

  14. #14 |  Radley Balko | 

    Link fixed.

    Sorry about that.

  15. #15 |  awp | 

    crap I am half deaf and have the same knife, better stay out of Seattle.

  16. #16 |  Mattocracy | 

    I just hope Jan Brewer doesn’t end up on the GOP ticket as VP in 2012. I watched that debate and she acted like such an arrogant bitch talking to her democratic opponent. I wouldn’t vote for him either, but she was way over the top.

  17. #17 |  Ben | 

    Man, the comments on the story about the commuting of the death sentence are disgusting. People are so blood-thirsty in this country, it’s startling. It really makes me feel that there is no reason for hope of there ever being any kind of substantive change in our judicial system.

  18. #18 |  capo | 

    re: Police Scanners

    “At the end of the day, it’s a privilege not a right,” said [Deputy Chief Eddie] Reyes.

    9th Amendment
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    10th Amendment
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    Seems like a right to me…or am I just terribly naieve?

  19. #19 |  CRNewsom | 

    Re: The first story:

    I will repeat what others have said on here many times before: “Why do I read the comments on the linked stories?”

  20. #20 |  Cynical in CA | 

    “The whittler shot by Seattle police was carrying a legal knife and was deaf in one ear. At least one witness is disputing the initial police reports.”

    Summary execution for failure to yield to authoritah.

    Let that be a lesson to him. And to all of us too.

    State agents are a force of nature, minions of death.

    Oh well, death comes to us all.

    Happy weekend!!!

  21. #21 |  Guido | 

    Re scanners:
    Many cities have already switched to digital trunking systems. It’s very difficult to monitor although not impossible. Instead of saying they don’t want people to monitor their activities was just stupid. They could just switch to digital and it would be a non-event.
    Personally I think we should be able to monitor their activities.

  22. #22 |  Charlie O | 

    Notice the guy from Alexandria said basically the same thing the cop Philly said in a post yesterday I believe. Officer safety is more important than YOUR RIGHTS.

    “So fuck you, you little peon taxpaying citizens. Us cops will do whatever the hell we want, fuck you, your rights are meaningless. I’ll shoot you, your dog, your wife, your kids if means I might possibly be injured in some way.”

    As to Jan Brewer’s ascension to power. I guess Obama is the messiah/god after all. After all, it was Obama who appointed Napolitano to Homeland Security. That’s how Brewer ended up governor.

  23. #23 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Anyone want to place bets on what penalty (if any) the cop will face after blowing away the whittler? Can’t wager money as this type of gambling is illegal in Freedom Country America.

    I say the cop skates with less than 6 months.

    Of course the appeals process will take 5 years.

  24. #24 |  Kent | 

    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer has very suspicious ties to the “For Profit Prison” industry:

    Brewer’s campaign chairman and policy adviser is none other then the lobbyist for the nations largest “For Profit Prison” corporation, Corrections Corporation of America. The one policy Jan Brewer signed which rushed her to re-election was Arizona’s SB 1070, the illegal immigration bill. Brewer’s policy adviser and campaign chairman Chuck Coughlin lobbies for the same “For Profit Prison” corporation which has contracts with ICE to house rounded up illegal migrants. Dirty, dirty, dirty politics. Sad to think she’s assured to win re-election. We definitely need illegal migration enforcement and reform, but not like this.

    Brewer Linked To Private Prisons Housing Illegal Immigrants
    New Questions Raised About Lobbyist Advice
    Morgan Loew, CBS 5 Investigative Reporter
    http://www.kpho.com/news/24834877/detail.html

  25. #25 |  Robert | 

    “Yeah good call, everyone I know with a police scanner is a cop worshiper to some degree. ”

    I hate cops and I listen to the scanner occasionally. I had one in my car back when I was more active in late night spirited driving in remote areas…

    A lot of departments encrypt their radio traffic. For the ones that don’t, as all cops know, if you want to talk about something sensitive you just use your cell phone instead. That way it doesn’t go on the record, and scanners sold in the US are blocked from listening to cell frequencies.

  26. #26 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “But police officials are concerned that the subculture of people who make a habit of listening to the police scanner has become too diverse, and that advances in technology have made it too easy for burglars to have a minute-by-minute account of what public-safety officials are up to through their iPhone”

    Scare tactics, pure and simple. Yes, some criminals use scanners. Some citizens also use scanners to help police locate criminals. I have witnessed this personally.

    Also, I disagree with the whole scanner listeners as “cop worshiper” thing. Look I own a scanner and used to listen to it for information and for training purposes (I work in healthcare security and have considered going into policing, Fire/EMS, and related protective services occupations). On the other hand, I stand in opposition to many aspects of American policing, have been a board member in my local ACLU chapter, and am not afraid to tell people how I feel about police abuses and civil liberties issues.

    Aside from that, what is so wrong about peope wanting to know what is going on in there community. Lighten up on the knee jerk “badge licker” accusations folks. The police department is trying to become less transparent than it already is. That is a problem. Why fuck with the people most likely to oppose the effort.

  27. #27 |  adolphus | 

    @#26 and others.

    Speaking only for myself I did not mean that all scanner users were “badge lickers.” I meant to point out that there is a segment of users who are ardent followers and knee-jerk supporters of police and do indeed have a Schrute-esque wannabe mentality to them.

    Not all. Maybe not even most. But a vocal, politically active segment. And alienating this segment might not be the best idea for local police.

    Didn’t intend to insult everyone who owns a scanner.

  28. #28 |  Scooby | 

    “Apparently God doesn’t like immigrants, either.”

    Duh. If God loved immigrants, he would have had them be born in the US, not in Mexico or some other third-world shithole.

  29. #29 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    #27 Adolphus: “Not all. Maybe not even most. But a vocal, politically active segment. And alienating this segment might not be the best idea for local police.”

    I certainly agree with you there. Thank you for the clarification. I don’t have any problem w/ the sentiments you expressed in #27.

  30. #30 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Re: Janet & God – “but for the grace of God” is an idiomatic expression that is pretty meaningless. She surely didn’t mean that God put her in office or she would have used stronger language. Note that some politicians have actually made that claim.

  31. #31 |  Mike Leatherwood | 

    Ian Birk….murderer.

  32. #32 |  Brandon | 

    “So, you know, there but for the grace of God I arrived.”

    That doesn’t even make any fucking sense. Maybe she meant “By the grace of God,” but what actually came out of her mouth is simply moronic, and even in different context it would mean the opposite of what she was seemingly going for. Just another conceited brainless corrupt mouthpiece.

  33. #33 |  Brandon | 

    MC, it’s not meaningless, it means “if not for my more fortunate circumstances.” A perfectly cromulent turn of phrase, if used in proper context, and not simply spouted by an empty-headed twit who thinks it sounds pretty.

  34. #34 |  Marty | 

    prison guards are the lowest scum I’ve ever come across. they’ve always paid prisoners to beat other prisoners- many times for entertainment.

    the best solution: only send people to prison who need to be in prison. no drug users. nobody guilty of a victimless crime should ever be in prison. no non-violent offenders need to be in a maximum security prison. this will dramatically reduce the burden on all of us. plus, it’ll reduce the number of slimeballs given the power to be prison guards. it’ll also reduce the slimeball healthcare workers. google ‘cms prison abuse or death or lawsuit or…’ many of the doctors are slime who’ve been barred from practicing elsewhere. many of the nurses are slime who’ve been fired from respectable jobs.

    the prison industry and the military industrial complex are two of my biggest fears in this country.

  35. #35 |  derfel cadarn | 

    Any police officer who is armed and is scared to the point of murder by a 3inch blade should be fired ,tarred feathered and if found to have any testicles they should be cut off and tossed in the gutter. the police as supposed professionals can NEVER fire the first shots in any altercation .And if you are that frightened of the risk Get Out of the game.

    Man up dudes

  36. #36 |  Salt | 

    re: prison guards

    The fact that this news got outside of the prison walls is extremely rare….People would NEVER believe what goes on inside of prisons. This story is not by any stretch of the imagination uncommon.

  37. #37 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    #35 derfel cadarn: “the police as supposed professionals can NEVER fire the first shots in any altercation”

    Never? What? Well, no, that doesn’t make any sense. I understand that the SPD shooting does not appear to be justified, but think about what you just said. They can “NEVER fire first shots in any altercation.” So they have to wait until a suspect armed with a firearm gets a shot off before they can return fire? Or if they are jumped by a suspect who purposely slashes at them with a blade or swings a metal pipe they would not be justified in firing “first shots.”

    Come on, this kind of poor, ill informed argumentation doesn’t get us anywhere. It only empowers police unions and those in law enforcement who want to say, “see the public doesn’t know what they are talking about, so let us do our jobs.” With all due respect, you don’t know what you are talking about in this case, and you might consider learning a thing or two about responses to armed attacks before you make a blanket statement like you did above. Restraint is important for police, but suicide missions are not part of the job description.

  38. #38 |  Joe | 

    “Apparently God doesn’t like immigrants, either.”

    I am a big proponent of greatly expanded legal immigration Radley. I think our current immigration policy sucks. I also support some sort of path to legal status for those who are here.

    But there has to be enforcement on illegal immigration. A quasi legal (or illegal) system is not the answer, so the status quo has to change. Arizona’s law is focused on the wrong target. The place to enforce illegal status is on employers, with civil fines that discourage employers hiring illegals.

    –2

    Libertarian does not mean putting your own country first. I owe nothing to the rest of the world, other than to respect them enough to leave them alone. We do not have to open our borders to all.

    That said, I welcome legal immigration to the United States, with the goal of assimilation and equal protection and respect to all. Our country benefits from smart immigration. The current system sucks. It creates a quasi serf class with little hope of legality.

    And there is nothing wrong with taking the best and the brightest. That increases wealth to all.

    But hey, if you have better ideas, say so.

  39. #39 |  Joe | 

    Excuse me, you can put your own country first and still be libertarian. I miswrote above.

    That is honest. We put ourselves first too, don’t we? But at the same time we treat our neighbors with respect.

  40. #40 |  StrongStyle81 | 

    Our economy sucks so bad not even the Mexicans want any part of it. If it gets any worse soon we’ll be sneaking into their country looking for work. Oh, sweet sweet irony.

  41. #41 |  Cynical in CA | 

    #23 | Boyd Durkin — “Anyone want to place bets on what penalty (if any) the cop will face after blowing away the whittler?”

    Most likely scenario is paid administrative leave followed by a 10% chance that he’s brought up on some misdemeanor charge, which will bring probation. He may or may not be fired by the PD, but he’ll be back in law enforcement with another PD within a few months.

    I don’t even see a civil lawsuit in this case as the victim was homeless.

    If there were a God in heaven, he would envy the power of U.S. police.

  42. #42 |  PW | 

    I’m curious to see if those who weighed in on the “Ground Zero Mosque” will direct similar enthusiasm into making this story a cause celebre of property rights.

    http://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_f0be418c-ab14-11df-b3fd-001cc4c002e0.html

  43. #43 |  Frank Hummel | 

    #23 | Boyd Durkin “I say the cop skates with less than 6 months.”

    You mean 6 months paid leave, right?

  44. #44 |  JOR | 

    #42,

    The cases don’t seem comparable at all. The ranchers aren’t trying to keep the monks out because OMGTHEY’RECATHOLIC, they’re just being stubborn (perhaps reasonably or perhaps not, I’d have to know more details) over purely practical (utility, resource, and easement) issues. But sure, if the monks peaceably purchase their property fair and square then nobody has any business either legally harrassing them or trying to shame or pressure them into leaving, especially for some especially stupid reason (like anti-Catholic sentiment).

  45. #45 |  RWW | 

    But there has to be enforcement on illegal immigration.

    It’s funny how many bald assertions one sees from anti-freedom-of-movement types.

    The place to enforce illegal status is on employers, with civil fines that discourage employers hiring illegals.

    Or, you know, you could try staying the hell out of other people’s business.

    I owe nothing to the rest of the world, other than to respect them enough to leave them alone.

    Oh, the irony.

    We do not have to open our borders to all.

    “We” do not own the borders. Your collectivism is showing.

    That said, I welcome legal immigration to the United States, with the goal of assimilation…

    What is “assimilation” in this context?

    But hey, if you have better ideas, say so.

    How about basic respect for property rights?

    We put ourselves first too, don’t we? But at the same time we treat our neighbors with respect.

    More irony.

  46. #46 |  Henry Bowman | 

    With respect to the proposed Virginia ban on police scanners, I note that the FCC Act of 1934(?) gives anyone in the U.S. the right to listen to any radio broadcasts. That said, Virginia is one of the few states that bans (or used to ban?) radar detectors. I have long regarded the state as infected with far too many police.

    If the police don’t want people listening to their radio broadcasts, then they should cough up the dough and provide for encryption. But, that would be a true waste of money, as they really do not need to stop people from listening — they just don’t want anyone hearing something that might be embarrassing to the cops.

  47. #47 |  JS | 

    Henry Bowman “With respect to the proposed Virginia ban on police scanners, I note that the FCC Act of 1934(?) gives anyone in the U.S. the right to listen to any radio broadcasts. That said, Virginia is one of the few states that bans (or used to ban?) radar detectors.”

    The problem with that is that you’re assuming the police have to abide by the law, which of course has always been true but no longer is.

  48. #48 |  gary | 

    You just lost me. Your link goes off my fav’s. Stupid.

  49. #49 |  Repeal_The_Va_Radar_Detector_Ban | 

    The states have no right to govern the airwaves, the is the for the FCC. Baning Radar Detectors and now trying to ban Scanners. Whats next AM/FM radios, CB’s and any other receivers they don’t like. People need to fight for their rights. I live in Virginia and own Scanners, CB’s and Radar Detectors, I also use them. I like listening to the scanner, I find interesting.

    Repeal The Va Radar Detector Ban!!!!

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