Comments on: When Police Videos Go Missing

By: nvwatchdog

nvwatchdog — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 16:58:17 +0000

Nevada Highway Patrol corruption, dash cam tampering & retaliation – The Mike Weston story http://youtu.be/cFX8bjPCWlo TIME STAMP IRREGULARITIES DISPLAYED ON ORIGINAL TAPE Hour 5 Minute 11 Incident begins Minute 10 Minute 09 Does not display Minute 08 Minute 07 75 seconds Minute 06 55 seconds Minute 05 15 seconds Minute 04 68 seconds Minute 03 45 seconds Minute 02 25 seconds Minute 01 55 seconds Hour 4 Minute 59 40 seconds Minute 58 15 seconds Minute 59 Displays again / 40 seconds / Different content Minute 57 85 seconds Minute 56 70 seconds Minute 55 25 seconds Minute 54 55 seconds Minute 53 23 seconds Minute 52 95 seconds Minute 51 Does not display Minute 50 80 seconds Minute 49 40 seconds Minute 48 40 seconds Minute 47 55 seconds Minute 46 40 seconds Minute 45 Does not display Minute 46 25 seconds Minute 45 Does not display Minute 44 25 seconds Minute 43 55 seconds Minute 42 25 seconds Minute 41 Incident ends

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By: Lee

Lee — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:59:58 +0000

It’s not really a police video, but the Costco video in the Las Vegas shooting of Erik Scott is still AWOL

http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12920574

By: Marc

Marc — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:48:34 +0000

For the competitive aviation sport of gliding all pilots carry small “secure” flight data recorders, which record time, location, altitude, typically once per second, and can retain hundreds of hours of data. These devices are used to score contests, establish eligibility for world records, penalize pilots who enter prohibited airspace, etc. The devices incorporate various physical and electronic security measures, including internal switches which, if the unit is opened or tampered with, erase the electronic “secret” keys required for correct operation. Flight logs are digitally signed by the units upon completion of each flight, publicly available software can verify the integrity of any downloaded flight log based on its digital signature. The flight logs contain sequence numbers, the serial number of the recording unit, etc. An attempt to tamper with the content of a flight log can be readily detected, as the digital signature would no longer match the contents. It would take a fair amount of resources, plus electrical engineering, programming, and cryptographic knowledge to forge a valid signature for a faked or modified flight log.

These devices are manufactured (at a cost of a few hundred US dollars each) for a silly sport that likely few here have ever heard of, does not involve any cash prizes, and about the only thing one wins is prestige within a tiny community.

The same thing could be done with dash cams, providing courts and defendants a reasonable level of assurance that the contents of videos in evidence haven’t been edited, determine if there are missing videos in a sequence, etc. Of course, that would require a legal system which actually cares about the rights of the accused…

By: Dixon

Dixon — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:49:53 +0000

I’m reminded of a story I told Radley which he posted here some time ago (http://www.theagitator.com/2007/04/20/tales-of-a-dallas-poker-raid/). I was at a poker game where the police claimed to have undercover video of mne gambling (it was bullshit…I was there with a friend who cooked for the poker players)…A&E “Dallas SWAT” tv show was there filming as well. We subpoenaed the video from city of Dallas and Granada Entertainment and were told no video existed of the incident. That was until, of course, we showed up for my suppression hearing and a cop was there to testify to having watched the undercover video THE NIGHT BEFORE the hearing.

By: Michael Pack

Michael Pack — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:32:39 +0000

Of cousre they don’t want a recording in dui stops.Many,if not most,arrested for dui have done no harm and are not driving recklessly.Why do you think they demand breath or blood tests?Without such evidence they can even prove reckless op,which is what dui should be covered under any way.I also would include sleepiness,texting,eating and drinking,ect..

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:27:36 +0000

Email Jim Pasco at jpasco@fop.net and tell him that he is wrong.

By: StrongStyle81

StrongStyle81 — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:17:06 +0000

Pasco stated that we should have more faith and trust in our authority figures. Perhaps someone should carefully explain to him in small words that it would be easier for us to trust the police if they stopped beating the shit out of us, arresting us for no reason, murdering random black people, damaging and seizing our property and killing our dogs.

By: Yizmo Gizmo

Yizmo Gizmo — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:06:15 +0000

Ahh yes, the disappearing video.
In Florida, my lawyer told me she was gonna get it.
Then she told me the prosecutor “would do bad things” to me if I kept
asking for it.
Then I fired her right in front of the judge, sued her (I won) and filed a bar complaint.
I know about “missing” videos all too well, glad the issue has gone viral.

There’s this case Brady where the defendant does not have to
prove Bad Faith if the video exists and they don’t turn it over.
But if the video is “inadvertently” (yeah right) destroyed
then you have to prove Bad Faith? How? You can not. Ever.
So the cops rely on this flaw in the system. If it’s inconvenient, they
just destroy the video. Then they can circumvent Brady.

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I Want … | Truth and Justice For All — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:01:56 +0000

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By: Nando

Nando — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:23:45 +0000

I’d L-O-V-E to be called to jury duty on one of these cases where the police video goes missing. I’d gladly give up a few days of work just to ensure that this injustice doesn’t affect someone’s life adversely.

By: croaker

croaker — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:32:52 +0000

Videotape of security thugs choking deaf shopper for not hearing the theft alarm.

http://carlosmiller.com/2010/08/12/video-exposes-abusive-forever-21-security-guards/

The deaf shopper is reportedly in jail facing felony charges. But not shoplifting. Seems as he and his friend had receipts for everything.

By: george cotz

george cotz — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:38:18 +0000

In my local jurisdiction, the police commonly deny that events were recorded explaining that the car in question was not so equipped. When I made a request for identification of all cars equipped with dash cams under our FOI law, I was denied on the grounds that it would compromise police investigations.

By: Mannie

Mannie — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:34:41 +0000

The other answer is for jurors to never believe a cop without real evidence.

That’s why they’ll never allow me within a thousand yards of a jury room.

Damn, I wish you could edit posts, here.

By: Mannie

Mannie — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:32:59 +0000

There’s an answer to the issue of police destruction or suppression of evidence, but it would require the courts to actually be an independent agency, not just part of the Big Prison Industry.

It’s the established legal doctrine of spoilation. If it can be shown that the police destroyed evidence, then they are not allowed to argue on the basis of what should have been shown in that evidence. If they “lost” the video, then the video shows whatever you say it shows, and they can’t even say otherwise.

Yeah, I know. I ain’t holdin’ my breath.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:09:28 +0000

LOLcat: “Hmmmm seems to me the obvious solution is to make all police cam videos instantly updated to the cloud.”

That, along with millisecond coordinates from a GPS stitched to every cop’s forehead.