Afternoon Links

Thursday, July 15th, 2010
  • Crime is down all over Arizona . . . . except in Joe Arpaio’s jurisdiction. Of course, if you send your deputies out to seek out and arrest people for non-crimes (and nonviolent crimes), that’s probably going to have an effect on your crime rate.
  • Note that all of the dangers presented in this Guardian scare story about Human Growth Hormone the result of the stuff being (mostly) illegal.
  • So we can scratch that question off the list. Case cracked. The eggheads solved it. Way to comb through the evidence for the answer, then pullet out for the world to see. Feather in their caps. Just hope they don’t get cocky. I’ll stop with the yolks, now.
  • Government to Haiti: The disaster check’s in the mail. We all know how well that works out. Whatever you think about emergency foreign aid, seems to me the worst way to do it is to promise emergency relief, then leave the people caught in the emergency still waiting a good six months later.
  • Vatican issues wishy-washy new policy on priest sex abuse. But the Church does find space in the same document to equate the ordination of women with sex crimes.

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46 Responses to “Afternoon Links”

  1. #1 |  Ray | 

    Umm. . . No fan of Sheriff Joe here but comparing the crime rate in Phx metro to the rest of AZ is laughable. Such an argument only discredits the one trying to make it

  2. #2 |  Gene | 

    Also, claiming that illegal immigration enforcement is responsible for any crime rate changes is laughable as the new law hasn’t gone into effect and won’t go into effect until late in July.

  3. #3 |  Nando | 

    I’ve long thought that Sheriff Joe was out there padding his numbers just so he would appear to be tough on crime. Never mind that he was making up the statistics or the crime to begin with.

    As for the chicken or the egg, I still insist that the egg must’ve come first. My reasoning is simple: chickens evolved from dinosaurs; dinosaurs were reptiles and laid eggs; the first chicken must’ve been born from an egg.

  4. #4 |  Ron | 

    Hate to break it to you, Ray, but Phoenix is not the only city in Arizona.

  5. #5 |  Rhayader | 

    HGH isn’t even really a “drug” at all. If we’re smart, we’ll focus our energy on the incredible potential for this stuff — which appears to be completely safe when properly administered — instead of worrying that some guy might be using it to compensate for his under-sized phallus by making his biceps big.

  6. #6 |  BamBam | 

    #3, Phoenix is the largest city in AZ, and has the population that is most likely to commit crimes compared to most other AZ cities. AZ is not very diversified across the state.

  7. #7 |  Chris in AL | 

    If it could compensate for your under-sized biceps by making your phallus big it would be legal.

  8. #8 |  Rhayader | 

    the first chicken must’ve been born from an egg

    Right. I don’t see where else it could have come from. It seems more likely to me that the egg itself perhaps relied on a different protein for shell formation back in the day.

    Of course, I suppose the concept of a “first chicken” is pretty flawed to begin with.

  9. #9 |  EH | 

    Jeez, we just want to be able to film police in places where it’s not illegal to do so, how is the world supposed to do anything about the Catholic Church?

  10. #10 |  Mattocracy | 

    The vatican sounds like a government agency with their excuses for misconduct. Maybe it’s a mentality that still carries over from the days when they were essentially the government in most European countries.

  11. #11 |  Waste93 | 

    Arresting people for non-crimes is illegal. It’s called false arrest. However if you are refering to illegal aliens then yes that is a crime. Entering the country illegally is…well…illegal (as in it is a crime).

  12. #12 |  SusanK | 

    Did the hen really come first or did she fake it? Leave it to a bunch of (presumably) male scientists to assume she came at all.

  13. #13 |  Mark R. | 

    Slash an artery with a hypodermic needle? Really?

  14. #14 |  Chris in AL | 

    Since eggs were likely the norm for all of the evolutionary ancestors to chickens, I always just assumed it was the egg. Did not realize anybody was actually still looking for the official answer.

  15. #15 |  Rhayader | 

    @Susan: Haha. Win.

  16. #16 |  shecky | 

    AZ is not very diversified across the state.

    Indeed. Joe Arpaio’s criminal influence only extends over a portion of Maricopa county.

  17. #17 |  Bot | 

    Radley must have pecked and scratched around pretty hard to find that story. At least it hatched a few good comments without getting egg over everyone’s face. But I think the foxes are watching the hen house on this one, especially on the sunny side. I won’t sleep until all the facts are laid to rest.

  18. #18 |  Judas Peckerwood | 

    I seriously wish journalists would stop referring to Arpaio as “tough.” There’s nothing tough about a bullying douchebag who hides behind a badge.

  19. #19 |  David | 

    If the Vatican is equating the ordination of women with sex crimes, then does that mean there have been female priests in secret for years?

  20. #20 |  hexag1 | 

    They can’t be right. The chicken evolved long after the egg did. Eggs were around in the early stages of the evolution of life, before birds evolved from dinosaurs. The egg came first.

  21. #21 |  Big_Texan | 

    I’m sure crime was higher in Berlin than in rual Germany, but that still didn’t make the petty tyrants right

  22. #22 |  Phelps | 

    The issue with Maricopa isn’t the overall crime rate but the rate of change. My first thought was, “if crime goes down, that cuts into the graft that Arpaio puts in his pockets the pockets of his deputies.”

  23. #23 |  ShelbyC | 

    Didn’t we know the answer from the old cartoon (Playboy?) that showed the chicken laying back in bed looking satisfied and smoking a cigarette, and the egg curled up next to it looking pissed off?

  24. #24 |  Michael Chaney | 

    It’s no longer possible to parody the drug war:

  25. #25 |  Cyto | 

    The anti-HGH scare story actually made me want to go find out more about getting some HGH. The Doc in the story listed several benefits that I would love to have – growing new cartilage (my knees are shot), dropping fat (duh), and building muscle (double-duh). The risks he listed were mostly from tainted product or overuse, from the sound of it. Why the heck isn’t this being prescribed off-label for cosmetic use?

  26. #26 |  matt | 

    I think they are referring to binaural beats which were discovered ooh 170 years ago… Next thing you know they’ll discover that live music is dangerous because it causes psychological responses…

  27. #27 |  omar | 

    @#24 | Michael Chaney

    I saw this today and was aghast.

    “Parents just cannot let their guard down in any way”.

    Shut. Your. Mouth.

  28. #28 |  shecky | 

    Just wait ’til they find out about homeopathic heroin.

  29. #29 |  Astrid | 

    @ #24 | Michael Chaney

    Thanks, I am now dumber for having watched that.

  30. #30 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #24 Michael Chaney

    It’s no longer possible to parody the drug war:

    NPR had a story about that yesterday, but to their credit they interviewed an expert that said there was basically nothing to it. Of course, that kind of investigative savvy is probably far outside the skill set of the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics which is most likely too busy fear-mongering and over-dosing on their own self-importance to consider whether there is any rational basis for concern. As in most cases of this sort, we will probably see government doing far more damage with their knee-jerk response than could ever be caused by the fad itself.

  31. #31 |  James D | 

    You really need to stop getting stuff from the Huffington Post Radley …. really. That Arpaio story is laughable to anyone who actually lives in Arizona. It’s as sad as you try to call El Paso a safe place when Juarez (100 feet to the south) is probably the biggest hellhole in the Western Hemisphere and if the crime rate of El Paso is down, it’s only because they’ll just take your ass to Juarez to kill you.

  32. #32 |  markm | 

    Rhayader | July 15th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    the first chicken must’ve been born from an egg

    “Right. I don’t see where else it could have come from. It seems more likely to me that the egg itself perhaps relied on a different protein for shell formation back in the day.

    Of course, I suppose the concept of a ‘first chicken’ is pretty flawed to begin with.”

    Eggs probably date back to the Pre-Cambrian Era, and certainly are as old as the first fish. From there, the lineage goes something like: primitive fish, more advanced fish, something similar to but probably no relation of the lungfish of the present day, early tetrapods, amphibians, reptiles, dinosaurs (which were at least partly warm-blooded), feathered warm-blooded dinosaurs, birds. All of them propagated through eggs.

    But the hard shell of bird eggs is different from the leathery shell of reptilian eggs. (I don’t see a difference between chicken and other bird eggs, but I haven’t looked at a chemical or microscopic analysis.) I doubt that we’ll ever find a well-enough preserved fossil egg to say whether the eggs of the (so-far unidentified) dinosaur branch that led to birds were more like reptile eggs or bird eggs. Mammals spring from another branch of the warm-blooded dinosaurs, and what are thought to be the most primitive mammals (Platypusses and Echidnas) lay leathery, reptile-like eggs.

  33. #33 |  Juan Gonzalez | 

    America’s Voice is a left wing organization. Come on Balko! If you are going to shill for the Democrats, stop calling yourself a Libertarian. There is nothing liberating about sneaking over the border and becoming a second-class citizen. These people cower in the shadows because they broke the law to begin with. Your hatred of Joe Arpaio borders on hysteria. He’s a sworn law officer and he’s enforcing the law. Don’t like the law? Change it. Not one person has been able to legally stop the raids in Maracopa, not Napolitano, not Holder, not anybody because Arpaio has the law on his side.

    There is not one civilized country in the world that does not carefully document and control it’s borders, not one!

    And my god by the looks of the comments at this site this must be the biggest collection of free-music downloading, anarchist, medical-pot-liars, basement-dwelling, freeloading, pinko, Bush-hating, Cheney-hating, Rachel Maddow watching, bunch of losers I’ve ever seen!
    God Bless America! Losers

  34. #34 |  JS | 

    hahahaha…Juan Gonzales, for a minute there I thought you were serious.

  35. #35 |  paranoiastrksdp | 

    @#33 Juan Gonzalez

    u mad?

  36. #36 |  EH | 

    The DC police chief is such a ‘tard. Seems like a nice lady, but she’s just a PR flack.

  37. #37 |  grog | 

    Why do I suspect Joe would prefer the crime rate to be up? Make for some great stemwinders come reelection about the need to get eeeeven tougher.

  38. #38 |  BrentM | 

    the Vatican has a sex crimes prosecutor? Wow! You wouldn’t know it if they didn’t tell you.

  39. #39 |  BrentM | 

    oh. why do they need guidelines for sex abuse? don’t do it. that should be the only guideline they need. all that religion must get them confused.

  40. #40 |  Eric | 

    One of the scientists said (jokingly, of course because if you think you solved it, you don’t understand it) when they discovered the protein in chicken ovaries, “Hey.. we solved the chicken-egg thing.” Then one said, “hmmm… we could get some press out of this.” The rest is history.

  41. #41 |  Rhayader | 

    Why do I suspect Joe would prefer the crime rate to be up?

    Yeah. NYC COMPSTAT-style. We watched The Wire.

    Play up the humbles, because essentially the only way they can be reported is if someone is caught red-handed. This makes for a handsomely high arrest rate, which to a department is a “solve” rate. At the same time, show a steadily decreasing rate of serious crimes via stat-juking — reclassifying, getting victims to drop out of fear for their own freedom, straight-up lying, whatever.

    Then you get a rising overall “crime rate” — which justifies increased use of resources — along with a rising arrest rate and declining violent crime to prove you’re “doing something”. Easy. Re-election is a cinch. Rinse and repeat.

  42. #42 |  Johnny Yuma | 


    Free-music downloading, anarchist, legal pot advocate, non-basement-dwelling, successful professional, radical, Bush-hating, Cheney-hating, Rachel Maddow loathing commenter here. When did libertarian come to mean: one that believes all laws, and their upholding, are sacred?

    Hey everyone, when slaves escaped their masters, those crooks were breaking the law! The men who enforced the fugitive slave laws were sworn officers with the law on their side and only America hating losers would have opposed them!

    Also, take a trip to Europe and cross a border. And, if that doesn’t do it, remember that time your mom asked you: if all of your friends were jumping off a cliff, would you?

  43. #43 |  primus | 

    Neither the chicken nor the egg came first; it was the rooster.

  44. #44 |  Xenocles | 

    “Also, take a trip to Europe and cross a border.”

    Awful analogy. You still have to get into Europe, and that’s as tightly controlled as anywhere. Try flying from JFK to Heathrow and telling the customs guy you’re looking for a job. You probably won’t get in; it’s right there on your visa stamp: “Employment and recourse to public funds prohibited.” Once you do have a European visa or a European passport, yeah, you can travel freely within Europe, but that just makes it analogous to traveling between US states.

  45. #45 |  matt | 

    I haven’t been to Europe in like 10 years but back then the borders were free flowing and “customs” was a quick “HI” *stamp* “Enjoy your trip” experience..

    As for El Paso I’ve found the city to be remarkably safe feeling despite all the bullshit being spewed by the right wing nutcases… As someone that lives in the Valley I find the scaremongering to be completely ridiculous..

  46. #46 |  Ray | 

    Ron #4
    sheriff Joe is our very own boss Hogg and Roscoe all rolled into one.
    But if you don’t understand the difference between comparing the fifth largest city in America to the rest of AZ, you need to pour yourself a tall glass of STF up and go sit quietly in the corner.