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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hippie Birdday Rally--I mean Radley! : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippie Birdday Rally&#8211;I mean Radley! : )</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It still bugs me to see a flashbang listed as a non-lethal munition.  I&#039;m willing to accept less-lethal.  Throwing around non-lethal lets people who haven&#039;t been near one continue to skim over articles and not think twice about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It still bugs me to see a flashbang listed as a non-lethal munition.  I&#8217;m willing to accept less-lethal.  Throwing around non-lethal lets people who haven&#8217;t been near one continue to skim over articles and not think twice about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several years back a cop in Torrington WY thought it would be funny to scare a friend working at a C-store.  He went in with an AR full of blanks and a ski-mask and started shooting.  I&#039;d really like to say he was fired but one can never be too sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years back a cop in Torrington WY thought it would be funny to scare a friend working at a C-store.  He went in with an AR full of blanks and a ski-mask and started shooting.  I&#8217;d really like to say he was fired but one can never be too sure.</p>
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		<title>By: AJs</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/04/19/excellent-recruitment-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-391632</link>
		<dc:creator>AJs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2010/3/17/596278.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some kids playing this kind of prank&lt;/a&gt; it WOULD have resulted in arrest, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2010/01/13/news/doc4b4d4f7633cfd835751153.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in some places it would be a felony&lt;/a&gt; .  It&#039;s all fun and games &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.click2houston.com/news/9466696/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;until someone loses a foot from a police prank and then the police lie and try to cover it up&lt;/a&gt;... nah, that never happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was <a href="http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2010/3/17/596278.html" rel="nofollow">some kids playing this kind of prank</a> it WOULD have resulted in arrest, <a href="http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2010/01/13/news/doc4b4d4f7633cfd835751153.txt" rel="nofollow">in some places it would be a felony</a> .  It&#8217;s all fun and games <a href="http://www.click2houston.com/news/9466696/detail.html" rel="nofollow">until someone loses a foot from a police prank and then the police lie and try to cover it up</a>&#8230; nah, that never happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I especially like the part where the parent felt the need to keep her identity a secret.  You mean she doesn&#039;t trust the cops?

Speaking of trusting cops, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/16/police.head.cam/index.html?iref=allsearch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN has a story&lt;/a&gt; about head-mounted cameras for cops made by our buddies at Taser.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the officer does not double-click the communications hub, the incident will not be recorded. That means the beat cop has sole discretion over what gets recorded and what doesn&#039;t.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gee, ya think that means they might not be inclined to record it when they&#039;re beating the shot outa someone?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Defense attorney Adams said that despite the best intentions of the police departments and Taser, the business relationship between those parties has the potential to create conflict.

&quot;They need to put it in the hands of an independent forensic scientific examiner to make sure it&#039;s out of the hands of the police and outside of the company&#039;s domain,&quot; he said.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait a sec.  You mean law enforcement should trust an independent party with evidence that could get cops in trouble?  ROFLMAO!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I especially like the part where the parent felt the need to keep her identity a secret.  You mean she doesn&#8217;t trust the cops?</p>
<p>Speaking of trusting cops, <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/16/police.head.cam/index.html?iref=allsearch" rel="nofollow">CNN has a story</a> about head-mounted cameras for cops made by our buddies at Taser.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>If the officer does not double-click the communications hub, the incident will not be recorded. That means the beat cop has sole discretion over what gets recorded and what doesn&#8217;t.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Gee, ya think that means they might not be inclined to record it when they&#8217;re beating the shot outa someone?</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Defense attorney Adams said that despite the best intentions of the police departments and Taser, the business relationship between those parties has the potential to create conflict.</p>
<p>&#8220;They need to put it in the hands of an independent forensic scientific examiner to make sure it&#8217;s out of the hands of the police and outside of the company&#8217;s domain,&#8221; he said.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Wait a sec.  You mean law enforcement should trust an independent party with evidence that could get cops in trouble?  ROFLMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think each ten-fold increase in distance represents roughly a 30dB drop in power (though various factors may cause things to drop more quickly at shorter distances).  If the flash-bang is indeed 180dB at five feet, it could still be 140dB+ at a significant distance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think each ten-fold increase in distance represents roughly a 30dB drop in power (though various factors may cause things to drop more quickly at shorter distances).  If the flash-bang is indeed 180dB at five feet, it could still be 140dB+ at a significant distance.</p>
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		<title>By: Judi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HAPPY BIRTHDAY RADLEY!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Woog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#12,

As a stun or flashbang grenade can injure or kill someone under specific conditions, there are other things other than being showered with burnt powder residue to worry about.

For one, Wikipedia and my memory coincide by listing the noise produced by a M84 stun grenade at ~180db within five feet. I&#039;m told that noise above 140db can cause immediate damage to hearing... http://www.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm

Seems to me that there is at least one SWAT cop who should be facing multiple criminal assault charges, if not multiple cops facing &quot;conspiracy to commit&quot; charges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#12,</p>
<p>As a stun or flashbang grenade can injure or kill someone under specific conditions, there are other things other than being showered with burnt powder residue to worry about.</p>
<p>For one, Wikipedia and my memory coincide by listing the noise produced by a M84 stun grenade at ~180db within five feet. I&#8217;m told that noise above 140db can cause immediate damage to hearing&#8230; <a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm</a></p>
<p>Seems to me that there is at least one SWAT cop who should be facing multiple criminal assault charges, if not multiple cops facing &#8220;conspiracy to commit&#8221; charges.</p>
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		<title>By: qwints</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These sorts of events seem like a net positive to me. The more people who know how cavalier the police are about using force the better. Especially when those abuses of power cause no real harm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These sorts of events seem like a net positive to me. The more people who know how cavalier the police are about using force the better. Especially when those abuses of power cause no real harm.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ramins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Ramins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paging Scalia, Justice Scalia, you have a call in the Eat Crow Lounge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paging Scalia, Justice Scalia, you have a call in the Eat Crow Lounge.</p>
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		<title>By: ZappaCrappa</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZappaCrappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A wonderful tool.  Not for recruiting but for parents to teach their kids about blind, slobbering trust in authority and teaching them that the people that want and demand that you  put your whole, unquestioning trust in them are really not deserving of that blind, slobbering trust...they just desire it.  Though I&#039;m sure there were several HS bullies in attendance who now have a pretty good idea for a career path.

Proof once again....there are a LOT of &quot;special&quot; cops out there....and I mean &quot;special&quot; in the short bus way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful tool.  Not for recruiting but for parents to teach their kids about blind, slobbering trust in authority and teaching them that the people that want and demand that you  put your whole, unquestioning trust in them are really not deserving of that blind, slobbering trust&#8230;they just desire it.  Though I&#8217;m sure there were several HS bullies in attendance who now have a pretty good idea for a career path.</p>
<p>Proof once again&#8230;.there are a LOT of &#8220;special&#8221; cops out there&#8230;.and I mean &#8220;special&#8221; in the short bus way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Missouri State Highway Patrol has it&#039;s own SWAT teams?

Why? In case there&#039;s a hostage situation on a highway?

What do they do when there are no on-highway hostage situations? Combat the scourge of mobile meth labs that roam the state in custom equipped tractor trailers?

Oh... I get it... since the Highway Patrol has, in theory... jurisdiction throughout the state, they can assist any of the local jurisdictions with their SWAT team raid needs. Kinda like a state sponsored Mercenary Squad.

That seems dangerously close to &#039;posse comitatus&#039;, doesn&#039;t it? Why not use the Missouri National Guard&#039;s SWAT teams for this instead? Oh... because that&#039;s a MILITARY unit. What about hiring Blackwater Security? Oh... because they would be actual Mercenaries. That&#039;s a pretty thin line there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Missouri State Highway Patrol has it&#8217;s own SWAT teams?</p>
<p>Why? In case there&#8217;s a hostage situation on a highway?</p>
<p>What do they do when there are no on-highway hostage situations? Combat the scourge of mobile meth labs that roam the state in custom equipped tractor trailers?</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; I get it&#8230; since the Highway Patrol has, in theory&#8230; jurisdiction throughout the state, they can assist any of the local jurisdictions with their SWAT team raid needs. Kinda like a state sponsored Mercenary Squad.</p>
<p>That seems dangerously close to &#8216;posse comitatus&#8217;, doesn&#8217;t it? Why not use the Missouri National Guard&#8217;s SWAT teams for this instead? Oh&#8230; because that&#8217;s a MILITARY unit. What about hiring Blackwater Security? Oh&#8230; because they would be actual Mercenaries. That&#8217;s a pretty thin line there.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of a kindergarten field trip I chaperoned when officer friendly (i.e. Barney Fife) herded all the little kids into a cell there at the station and then proceeded to walk away. After a few minutes he came back acting all upset and nervous. He told the kids he had lost the key to the cell. The kids were visibly shaken up and a few started crying. The cop thought he was so clever. After a few minutes of torturing these 5 year olds, he came back with the key. It was truly creepy and surprising. Apparently a good thing for the young-uns to experience, fear. And even creepier was none of the adults said anything even though we all felt it was inappropriate for 5 year olds to be treated that way on an innocent happy little field trip. After that lovely experience we were off to the fire house next door where the kids recovered after being allowed to slide down the pole. Thank god for the firemen they did save the day. 

Flash bang grenades are used in the juvenile prison that I am familiar with so I guess school is getting more and more like prison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a kindergarten field trip I chaperoned when officer friendly (i.e. Barney Fife) herded all the little kids into a cell there at the station and then proceeded to walk away. After a few minutes he came back acting all upset and nervous. He told the kids he had lost the key to the cell. The kids were visibly shaken up and a few started crying. The cop thought he was so clever. After a few minutes of torturing these 5 year olds, he came back with the key. It was truly creepy and surprising. Apparently a good thing for the young-uns to experience, fear. And even creepier was none of the adults said anything even though we all felt it was inappropriate for 5 year olds to be treated that way on an innocent happy little field trip. After that lovely experience we were off to the fire house next door where the kids recovered after being allowed to slide down the pole. Thank god for the firemen they did save the day. </p>
<p>Flash bang grenades are used in the juvenile prison that I am familiar with so I guess school is getting more and more like prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Berez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;#10 &#124;   Elliot &#124;  April 19th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

Can you imagine what would happen to a student who did that as a prank? He’d probably be charged with terrorism.
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Hell, a student can get in arrested for bringing a tiny plastic Lego gun to school or doodling on a desk with erasable marker. 

But a cop can set off a flash grenade, showering kids in actual gun powder and deafening them?

The fact that &quot;zero tolerance&quot; is applied to a child who makes a shape resembling a gun with their fingers yet isn&#039;t applied to a cop constituting actual physical damage and harm is proof positive that such a policy is utter and complete bullshit.

Or at least it would be in a rational society...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#10 |   Elliot |  April 19th, 2010 at 2:02 pm</p>
<p>Can you imagine what would happen to a student who did that as a prank? He’d probably be charged with terrorism.
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<p>Hell, a student can get in arrested for bringing a tiny plastic Lego gun to school or doodling on a desk with erasable marker. </p>
<p>But a cop can set off a flash grenade, showering kids in actual gun powder and deafening them?</p>
<p>The fact that &#8220;zero tolerance&#8221; is applied to a child who makes a shape resembling a gun with their fingers yet isn&#8217;t applied to a cop constituting actual physical damage and harm is proof positive that such a policy is utter and complete bullshit.</p>
<p>Or at least it would be in a rational society&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Clamboat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Clamboat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#6  Without bananas, mind you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#6  Without bananas, mind you.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad they fired that SWAT officer who threw the grenade!

&lt;/sarcasm&gt;

Can you imagine what would happen to a student who did that as a prank?  He&#039;d probably be charged with terrorism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad they fired that SWAT officer who threw the grenade!</p>
<p>&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p>
<p>Can you imagine what would happen to a student who did that as a prank?  He&#8217;d probably be charged with terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#8 &#124;  OGRE &#124;

Completely unprofessional.  Maybe next time they can shoot a bunch of people and plant dugs on the bodies to interest kids in law enforcement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8 |  OGRE |</p>
<p>Completely unprofessional.  Maybe next time they can shoot a bunch of people and plant dugs on the bodies to interest kids in law enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: OGRE</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  How completely asinine.

And they want us to call them &#039;professionals?&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  How completely asinine.</p>
<p>And they want us to call them &#8216;professionals?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Berez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If a kid did this he would be suspended or expelled, arrested, and charged. A cop does it and not only gets to keep his job but also doesn&#039;t have to worry about any disciplinary action whatsoever.

Cops: the one job where you can do something stupid, plead ignorance, have that plea be acceptable, and still get to boss people around with a gun and a Taser. 

Society for the fail!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a kid did this he would be suspended or expelled, arrested, and charged. A cop does it and not only gets to keep his job but also doesn&#8217;t have to worry about any disciplinary action whatsoever.</p>
<p>Cops: the one job where you can do something stupid, plead ignorance, have that plea be acceptable, and still get to boss people around with a gun and a Taser. </p>
<p>Society for the fail!</p>
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		<title>By: Blakenator</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/04/19/excellent-recruitment-tool/comment-page-1/#comment-391548</link>
		<dc:creator>Blakenator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems whether or not it is just &quot;fun and games&quot; depends on who you are.  The fact that most people are somehow accepting of misconduct by the &quot;authorities&quot; is further evidence that we have become the world&#039;s most powerful banana republic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems whether or not it is just &#8220;fun and games&#8221; depends on who you are.  The fact that most people are somehow accepting of misconduct by the &#8220;authorities&#8221; is further evidence that we have become the world&#8217;s most powerful banana republic.</p>
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