Jonathan Ayers and Eric Cantor

Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

Let me be clear, here. I don’t in any way condone threats or violence against politicians.

That said, it would be nice if the media and our elected officials would get half as outraged when agents of the government kill innocent Americans as they’ve gotten about this recent spate of bricks tossed through office windows and empty threats posted on YouTube.

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26 Responses to “Jonathan Ayers and Eric Cantor”

  1. #1 |  damaged justice | 

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism, except when Team Blue is in office. Then it’s terrorism.

  2. #2 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    The big lie is that any and all violence* against the state is a direct threat against democracy, wounded soldiers, puppies and your grandma’s apple pie. Meanwhile, murdering civilians is just part of making the omlette.

    *I am against all forms of violence.

  3. #3 |  Marty | 

    I’m not violent, but sometimes I think Jim Bell is more right than MLK…

    I don’t agree with a lot of his politics, but I love Abby Hoffman’s ability to protest while ridiculing and having fun.

  4. #4 |  Mattocracy | 

    While they are at it, politicians need to get searched at the airport too like the rest of us. Then they’ll know what real outrage is.

  5. #5 |  David | 

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism, except when Team Blue is in office. Then it’s terrorism.

    Let’s not pretend that the differences between the two parties are more significant than say, those between the American and National leagues. I’m not even sure that holds up, as the DH rule is at least a substantive difference.

  6. #6 |  tariqata | 

    Mattocracy@4: come to Canada, where cabinet ministers throw screaming fits when the airport security staff try.

  7. #7 |  Ben | 

    While I would not advocate violence against elected officials, I do believe they should be afraid of the public, not the other way around.

  8. #8 |  Peter Ramins | 

    @ #1 – Because Team Blue brought us chain-linked paddocks -aka- ‘Free Speech Zones’, right?

    They both have a ‘with me or subversive’ mindset.

  9. #9 |  Tom Kelly | 

    Radley- I’m eagerly awaiting your take on the “Christian militia” arrests.

  10. #10 |  Cynical in CA | 

    Since politicians’ stock-in-trade is violence, I see no reason to care when they find themselves on the receiving end. Seems rather poetic to this anarchist.

    “When men hire themselves out to shoot other men to order, asking nothing about the justice of their cause, I don’t care if they are shot themselves.” —Herbert Spencer

  11. #11 |  J sub D | 

    I see you sub-contracted the daily gut punch to DrugWarRant.com.

    I do not understand the general public and MSM’s cavalier attitude towards victims of government excess in the War on Sanity. I really am unable to explain why all of America isn’t up in arms over this kink of police state crap.

  12. #12 |  Brian | 

    So, wait. When you say “let me be clear,” are you actually trying to be clear, or are you just establishing cover for an incoming obfuscation?

  13. #13 |  Scooby | 

    #5 David:

    I agree that there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two wings of the single “Two-Party” Ruling party, but antagonism against the D wing will provoke a negative response by the majority of the MSM (to which #1 alludes), while antagonism against the R wing yields grief from Fox/Faux News.

  14. #14 |  perlhaqr | 

    Why would elected officials care nearly as much about stupid citizens as about their own precious skins?

    We’re not important to them, except insofar as we have a vote they want every 2,4,6 years.

    #1, Funny, I was thinking about that just the other day: http://i41.tinypic.com/2qmj3m0.png

  15. #15 |  Collin | 

    “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”

    Tell that to the Dixie Chicks.

  16. #16 |  JOR | 

    That drug war casualties site lists Ron Jones as a victim of the drug war.

    Ron Jones was a victim of the drug war the same way that a burglar that gets shot by a homeowner is a victim of burglary.

  17. #17 |  Elliot | 

    I’ve been following the Window War since Mike Vanderboegh (the man who sent out the “call to bricks”) reposted a decade-old fictional story a couple years ago. Most media outlets have portrayed him dishonestly and conflated him with those who took it upon themselves to escalate beyond his suggestion.

    I still don’t think it’s the best course of action, but people need to draw distinctions between the different people in the news.

  18. #18 |  fwb | 

    The government has already murdered hundreds or thousands of Americans. All the federal criminal laws outside of counterfeiting, piracy and felonies on the high seas, offenses against the law of nations, and treason have no constitutional authority.

    Spend some time. Read the Constitution. Study the grants of power AND ask yourself about the things that are NOT granted. If it was necessary to grant the power to punish treason, how is it that grants to punish other crimes are not necessary?

  19. #19 |  skunky | 

    Let me be clear, I don’t advocate burning churches, but haven’t Catholic priests been pretty child molesters?

  20. #20 |  BamBam | 

    #14, you have to seriously wonder if votes are even counted completely and accurately. It’s another government function, so the default outcome is likely “it’s not accurate, and likely not the correct result”. Do some research on how votes are counted, how vote machines are sold to The State, how contracts and software are “secret” and therefore not open to analysis (even though analysis determines accuracy of the software and thus of the results from said machines).

    It sometimes seems more likely that Team/Person A has pissed someone off, and thus it’s Team/Person B turn … but we are told a number which means one side wins and the other loses. How do you really know this is true? There is too much at stake for a vote count to be done in a hurry, and the results are another mechanism by which to control people’s lives. It’s only a matter of how far to turn the screw, not if the screw will be turned or not.

  21. #21 |  BamBam | 

    A system will not give up power because you ask politely, or even yell or have millions of people marching. It always takes violence to affect change at the level of large chunks of a system. Politicians have been ignoring their oath, and even what their constituents want, since the beginning of time. Why should anyone be afraid to acknowledge these simple facts, and thus be one to condone violence against the system and those that are the enablers (politicians)? Everyone has a point at which you condone violence because the boot has been pressed on your throat to a point where you have had enough.

    At what point do you quit acting like a docile slave and rise up?

  22. #22 |  nemo | 

    “At what point do you quit acting like a docile slave and rise up?”

    Short answer: when it gets personal. And unfortunately that’s what it takes, as most Americans have been socially atomized into individual impotence when it comes to facing the worst predations of The State. Things that would have other citizens in other countries rampaging in the street are greeted with yawns here.

    But then, most of those citizens in many of those other countries have had literally bloody revolutions and instances of fascism overtaking their governments in their recent past, and realize that government is just what George Washington said it was: not reason or eloquence but FORCE. And if they don’t control that force, it will control them.

    Things will have to get as bad here as it was during the Great Depression before you start to hear the same kind of rumblings heard back then about changing the basic from of government. Until then, you can’t go wrong in investing in wool futures, as there’s plenty of sheep in this country…and quite a few of them are bipedal.

  23. #23 |  buzz | 

    ““Dissent is the highest form of patriotism”

    Tell that to the Dixie Chicks.”

    Hey Dixie Chicks! Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!!

    OK, now what? What was your point?

  24. #24 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    We’re not important to them, except insofar as we have a vote they want every 2,4,6 years.

    I am positive that they are working on eliminating this weakness.

    It would be nice to be able to have an intelligent discussion on the use of violence against the state (seriously), but it is far too dangerous to do outside whispers behind closed doors.

    However; two favorite quotes related to the subject:

    “The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.”
    - Bucky Fuller

    “You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.”
    - Al Capone

  25. #25 |  jsabotta | 

    Apparently disagreement with the Dixie Chicks and therefore not purchasing their product is a form of dissent that “buzz” regards as actually being oppressive censorship.

  26. #26 |  Elliot | 

    What, no LUNG?

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