Afternoon Links

Monday, March 15th, 2010
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  1. #1 |  Kristen | 

    We all know whata performance-enhancer weed is! Especially in a grueling marathon like the Iditarod, where you have to be awake and alert for days and days. Yep, when I think awake and alert, I think weeeeeeeed.

  2. #2 |  J sub D | 

    Longtime culture warrior John DiIulio, Jr. comes around on marijuana.

    But he hasn’t eschewed idiocy altogether.

    Second, legislate age 18 as a compulsory national school attendance requirement, or amend all relevant federal education legislation so that states, on penalty of losing federal funding, must comply with their own respective compulsory school age requirements (many are age 16) and offer best-practices anti-truancy programs.

    Force those kids who don’t want to be in school and don’t care to learn while in school to attend so they can (and assuredly will) disrupt the education of those who are trying to learn.

  3. #3 |  Windy | 

    J sub D, the reson behind such a policy is that schools get a certain amount of money fromt he state for every student who is in attendance, whether the student is learning or not. It is well past time to separate schools from state control and funding. Back to private and homeschooling and forget those huge institutional government indoctrination centers we call schools. The current system alienates kids from other age groups including their parents (and often their siblings). The kids are treated more like prisoners than free individuals in those institutions and they are NOT learning the truth about our Constitution and the rights and responsibilities of a resident of these united States of America. I blame the public schools for the current horrible state of our country and the dearth of high quality, freedom loving legislators in our congress and state legislatures.

  4. #4 |  Stephen | 

    Just how exactly can pot “give you an edge” in any sport? I think individual performance would drop in any sport. It might cause better teamwork to happen because there would be fewer wanna be superstars or ball-hogs and less argument between players. But that is only if they are under the influence while playing.

  5. #5 |  bbartlog | 

    As regards the Amazon review, XKCD beat that guy to it:
    http://www.xkcd.com/673/

  6. #6 |  Marty | 

    are there any positive stories about the cia? bunches of assassinations (failures and successes) that I can see no historic benefit, govts destabilized, that I can see no benefit, and repeated documentation of domestic abuse that have caused lots of harm… these guys are mercenary manipulators who do the dirty work for whoever is paying their salaries.

    glad to hear Pete’s in the clear!

  7. #7 |  Marty | 

    #3- well said, Windy! I wish I could give more thumbs up to you.

  8. #8 |  davidstvz | 

    “Call NASA! Assemble our hottest astronauts!”

  9. #9 |  MDGuy | 

    Wow, if the CIA did in fact dose people with LSD that is truly monstrous. LSD can be hard to handle even for someone who knows what they’re taking, takes a controlled dose and has previous experience with hallucinogenic drugs. Even a few micrograms can last for 12 hours or more, and an uncontrolled method of delivery such as an aerosol could potentially leave people tripping for days on end. If you don’t have any experience with it to recognize what’s happening, it would be most people’s natural conclusion that they have suddenly gone quite literally insane. No wonder the guy jumped off a building.

  10. #10 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Regarding the medical marijuana item…

    Personally, I’ve always felt that if you need a urine test to tell if someone is doing something wrong, then what they’re doing probably isn’t that bad.

    Businesses are extremely PR conscious. They will usually jump on any bandwagon that makes them look good in the press. It’s perhaps no coincidence that this just happens to be the same outfit that is fighting the scourge of child sex abuse by turning people in for taking naked pictures of their kids in the bathtub.

    On the other hand, maybe they just wanted to get rid of the guy and thought that was a convenient way to justify it.

  11. #11 |  Big Chief | 

    WalMart has a right to put requirements on its workers. But I wonder if that is what happened here. So Michigan has legalized medical marijuana. Has that legal status reached the bureaucrats in Michigan’s OSHA and Worker’s Comp offices. I know many states require drug testing like that performed by WalMart in order to meet state requirements for safety and Worker’s comp insurance. Is this a case where WalMart acted in order to avoid state penalties or have their fees increased because the employee was doing something that the state said was legal, but other state agencies still treat as illegal?

  12. #12 |  Nando | 

    On the Wal-Mart/Med MJ article:

    Would the guy have been fired if he were prescribed Vicodin? What about Tylenol with Codeine? As far as I’m concerned, a prescribed drug is a prescribed drug. Just because it’s illegal in another state (or even at the federal level) doesn’t make it any less legal in that state.

  13. #13 |  SJE | 

    #10 Dave:
    If they wanted to fire him, why would they have made him employee of the year? Besides, its not like Walmart is averse to firing people it doesnt want. No, I think it is just drug-war stupidity.

  14. #14 |  Andrew S. | 

    #11 | Big Chief | March 15th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    WalMart has a right to put requirements on its workers. But I wonder if that is what happened here. So Michigan has legalized medical marijuana. Has that legal status reached the bureaucrats in Michigan’s OSHA and Worker’s Comp offices. I know many states require drug testing like that performed by WalMart in order to meet state requirements for safety and Worker’s comp insurance. Is this a case where WalMart acted in order to avoid state penalties or have their fees increased because the employee was doing something that the state said was legal, but other state agencies still treat as illegal?

    Depending on how you read the statute, it would seem to cover that…

    A qualifying patient who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act, provided that the qualifying patient possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana, and, if the qualifying patient has not specified that a primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility. Any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots shall also be allowed under state law and shall not be included in this amount.

    The relevant and important part would be “business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau”. I have a feeling that the intent of the legislature was to have it mean “business OR (occupational or professional licensing board or bureau), since a reference to a business licensing bureau in this case wouldn’t make much sense.

    (Standard libertarian disclaimer: Should WalMart be able to set the rules, and fire people regardless? Yeah. Am I still going to call them out as the complete disgrace of a company this makes them, and the complete disgrace as human beings the people who made the decision are? Especially when not only did they fire him, but now they’re fighting his unemployment insurance claim? Absolutely.)

  15. #15 |  Gregory | 

    Directing a dogsled while high? That sounds so awesome.

  16. #16 |  Mattocracy | 

    The LSD story is really scary. But I don’t know if I believe it whole heartedly.

    Part of me isn’t suprised that any government agency would be so stupidly careless and dangerous. “What does this do?” “I dunno, let’s fuck with the general public and see what happens.” These are the same people who gave black service men syphallis and pretended to give them medicine just to see what would happen.

    But another part of me thinks that if the CIA really did this, there should have been mass hysteria going on in New York. There doesn’t seem to be any reports of that. Maybe ingesting LSD via an aerosol just isn’t effective. I dunno.

    It also makes me wonder what they are planning right now, with all this talk about mandatory vaccinations…

    It really makes me wonder what they have done recently when W. was in office. Maybe the experiments were contained at Gitmo…

  17. #17 |  BobG | 

    “Did the CIA release LSD in the New York subway?”

    That would actually explain a lot of New York’s politics…

  18. #18 |  SJE | 

    I think drug use makes sense for mushers. Why else would they spend several days outside at -20 F looking at dog butts?

  19. #19 |  jpok | 

    MDGuy, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_ultra

  20. #20 |  Pablo | 

    I asked a friend of mine, an employment law attorney, why companies bother drug testing when they should just discipline/fire employees who don’t do their jobs. Of course he said it’s not that simple. Given the current state of employment law it’s a lot easier to fire someone for a positive drug screen than for laziness and incompetence. The latter have to be documented out the yin-yang and even then a terminated employee can claim it was trumped-up due to racism, discrimination under the ADA, sexism, etc. OTOH if a drug screen is positive it’s relatively easy and quick to fire someone. Fucked up, huh?

  21. #21 |  perlhaqr | 

    After years of my sister whining about Wal-Mart doing all sort of things that I don’t care about (or actively support them doing) in order to convince me not to shop there, Wal-Mart themselves may have just succeeded. Asstards.

  22. #22 |  anne | 

    The CIA LSD testing thing is pretty much beyond scary. Even though I don’t buy the conspiracy theory type stuff, reading shit like this makes me think I ought to not make fun of them too much.

  23. #23 |  DaveG | 

    Don’t know if the CIA tested LSD on the NY subways, but I’m sure there are alot of freak out stories from good-timers who got more than they bargained for and were underground when the acid kicked in. The sources more likely being some guy, or a friend of a friend.
    For an awesome setting and a peyote experience done right, I highly recommend the Peyote Way Church in arizona. They have been doing what they do for 30 years and no legal problems, warm weather is on the way, get a buddy and go

  24. #24 |  parse | 

    After all the good press you’ve given WalMart over the years, Radley, it demonstrates principle to post this story exposing a nastier side to the corporation. Thanks for playing fair.

  25. #25 |  Terry C. Nall | 

    Easy joke
    NYC subway car dosed with LSD and NO ONE NOTICED!

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