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	<title>Comments on: DOT Sec. LaHood Takes Aim at Texting While Driving, Car Gadgetry, Sound Policy</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: barabarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>barabarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And hey-  how many times have you seen people driving and talking on a cell phone and they WEREN&#039;T driving badly?`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And hey-  how many times have you seen people driving and talking on a cell phone and they WEREN&#8217;T driving badly?`</p>
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		<title>By: barabarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>barabarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez-  when will the Earnest-Do-Gooders strop.  Stay the hell out of my life!  I am so sick and tired of the government (and the little groups who are trying to make the world perfect, sticking their noses into my business.  

What I eat, what kind of health care I have, what safety devices I must have on my car, whether I have a fire alarm and/or a CO2 detector in my house, how high I can build a fence in my back yard, where and if I can smoke, manditory trash bags in my car, etc., etc., etc.,etc.

Leave me alone.  

And how much would this new, required piece of &quot;safety equipment&quot; add to the cost of a new car (which most Americans already can&#039;t afford.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez-  when will the Earnest-Do-Gooders strop.  Stay the hell out of my life!  I am so sick and tired of the government (and the little groups who are trying to make the world perfect, sticking their noses into my business.  </p>
<p>What I eat, what kind of health care I have, what safety devices I must have on my car, whether I have a fire alarm and/or a CO2 detector in my house, how high I can build a fence in my back yard, where and if I can smoke, manditory trash bags in my car, etc., etc., etc.,etc.</p>
<p>Leave me alone.  </p>
<p>And how much would this new, required piece of &#8220;safety equipment&#8221; add to the cost of a new car (which most Americans already can&#8217;t afford.)</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whim: &quot;Wouldn’t a device that jams a driver’s cell phone signal also jam a passenger’s jail phone signal?&quot; It sure would. And when you are on the side of the road trying to call a tow truck, every car whooshing by will break your connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whim: &#8220;Wouldn’t a device that jams a driver’s cell phone signal also jam a passenger’s jail phone signal?&#8221; It sure would. And when you are on the side of the road trying to call a tow truck, every car whooshing by will break your connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41 &#124;  Jim Collins-

I&#039;m one of those &#039;if you&#039;re not passing, get out of the left lane&#039; types. I feel it&#039;s common courtesy. people tying up the left lane, compelling other drivers to pass on the right, are creating a real hazard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41 |  Jim Collins-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those &#8216;if you&#8217;re not passing, get out of the left lane&#8217; types. I feel it&#8217;s common courtesy. people tying up the left lane, compelling other drivers to pass on the right, are creating a real hazard.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops will really enjoy this one.

Talk about creating a target rich environment!  

I wonder when the hamburger &amp; fries will be banned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops will really enjoy this one.</p>
<p>Talk about creating a target rich environment!  </p>
<p>I wonder when the hamburger &amp; fries will be banned?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17 years ago I flipped my Celica GT. My 2 roommates &amp; I were unhurt. The cop knew none of us had our seatbelts on because if we did, he said all 3 of us would have been dead. The roof had collapsed in by over a foot. Our necks would of snapped like pencils. It should be my choice to wear a seatbelt or not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17 years ago I flipped my Celica GT. My 2 roommates &amp; I were unhurt. The cop knew none of us had our seatbelts on because if we did, he said all 3 of us would have been dead. The roof had collapsed in by over a foot. Our necks would of snapped like pencils. It should be my choice to wear a seatbelt or not!</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sarcasm didn&#039;t translate too well... Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sarcasm didn&#8217;t translate too well&#8230; Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenocles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap, thorn, it was a joke. Thanks for beating it to death, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, thorn, it was a joke. Thanks for beating it to death, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of curious about where that 45,000 number is derived from?
I&#039;m also curious about out of that 45,000 how many, of those killed,  were breaking existing laws.  A law is no good if nobody obeys it.  

Take the speed limit for example.  An interstate highway that I drive on daily has a speed limit of 65 MPH.  Nobody should be going faster than 65, yet if I am driving in the left lane at 65 MPH, I&#039;m yelled at, have horns honking at me and I am probably getting flipped off as people move to the right lane to pass me.  Pennsylvania has passed a law that prohibits me from driving in the left lane for more that two miles, even if I am driving at the speed limit.  They actually passed a law to make it easier for people to break another law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of curious about where that 45,000 number is derived from?<br />
I&#8217;m also curious about out of that 45,000 how many, of those killed,  were breaking existing laws.  A law is no good if nobody obeys it.  </p>
<p>Take the speed limit for example.  An interstate highway that I drive on daily has a speed limit of 65 MPH.  Nobody should be going faster than 65, yet if I am driving in the left lane at 65 MPH, I&#8217;m yelled at, have horns honking at me and I am probably getting flipped off as people move to the right lane to pass me.  Pennsylvania has passed a law that prohibits me from driving in the left lane for more that two miles, even if I am driving at the speed limit.  They actually passed a law to make it easier for people to break another law.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more serious note: the issue is whether people can take &quot;due care&quot; when driving.  Some people can drive safely while multitasking.  Other people are dangerous even when fully focused on the road, either because of age, disease, speed, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more serious note: the issue is whether people can take &#8220;due care&#8221; when driving.  Some people can drive safely while multitasking.  Other people are dangerous even when fully focused on the road, either because of age, disease, speed, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days the Beach Boys would be singing &quot;She&#039;ll have fun fun fun till her Daddy took the GPS away&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days the Beach Boys would be singing &#8220;She&#8217;ll have fun fun fun till her Daddy took the GPS away&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/02/24/dot-sec-lahood-takes-aim-at-texting-while-driving-car-gadgetry-sound-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-386107</link>
		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Xenocles:

Here&#039;s a couple problems with it: I&#039;m driving down the interstate doing 55 mph. I&#039;m passed by a minivan. Through the windows, I see a kid matching the description of an Amber alert. I wish to call the authorities while keeping the van in view. Oppps... my car shuts down. Now the van got away, and I was just killed when someone rear-ended my car, and I had forgotten to wear my 5point seatbelt and neck restraint.

Second problem: Who&#039;s going to pay for all this tech connection of phone to the engine? More stimulus money, or is it added onto the price of the car? What about the 30 trillion cars already out there?

Third problem: When it screws up - and it will - do I get to sue Ray LaHood? Or will it just be another round of &quot;Congress feigns Horror&quot; as they&#039;re doing with Toyota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Xenocles:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple problems with it: I&#8217;m driving down the interstate doing 55 mph. I&#8217;m passed by a minivan. Through the windows, I see a kid matching the description of an Amber alert. I wish to call the authorities while keeping the van in view. Oppps&#8230; my car shuts down. Now the van got away, and I was just killed when someone rear-ended my car, and I had forgotten to wear my 5point seatbelt and neck restraint.</p>
<p>Second problem: Who&#8217;s going to pay for all this tech connection of phone to the engine? More stimulus money, or is it added onto the price of the car? What about the 30 trillion cars already out there?</p>
<p>Third problem: When it screws up &#8211; and it will &#8211; do I get to sue Ray LaHood? Or will it just be another round of &#8220;Congress feigns Horror&#8221; as they&#8217;re doing with Toyota?</p>
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		<title>By: Xenocles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;LaHood also wants “a device to shut down phones and BlackBerrys when the engine is started.”&quot;

That may not be possible without a broadband jammer, but maybe we could probably do some kind of app that shuts down the engine when the driver uses his phone. I can&#039;t think of any problems with that idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;LaHood also wants “a device to shut down phones and BlackBerrys when the engine is started.”&#8221;</p>
<p>That may not be possible without a broadband jammer, but maybe we could probably do some kind of app that shuts down the engine when the driver uses his phone. I can&#8217;t think of any problems with that idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already have such a device: it&#039;s called an EMP generator.

Installing one in minivans and SUVs would solve the reckless driving issue on many levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have such a device: it&#8217;s called an EMP generator.</p>
<p>Installing one in minivans and SUVs would solve the reckless driving issue on many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Chef</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a Gumball revolution.  I want automakers and car enthusiasts to stand up and say ENOUGH!  I will do what I want to do in my car.  That includes dropping the top and smoking my pipe or a good cigar.  When people start ignoring the &quot;motorist laws&quot;  maybe someone will take a hint.  However it will most likely end up with some sort of MORE tyrannical system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a Gumball revolution.  I want automakers and car enthusiasts to stand up and say ENOUGH!  I will do what I want to do in my car.  That includes dropping the top and smoking my pipe or a good cigar.  When people start ignoring the &#8220;motorist laws&#8221;  maybe someone will take a hint.  However it will most likely end up with some sort of MORE tyrannical system.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30 &#124;  boomshanka 
&#039;#27 So, are you actually arguing that seatbelts don’t significantly reduce the risk of injury or death in an accident?&#039;

not at all. I&#039;m stating that there&#039;s so much propaganda, the bullshit govt stats are taken as fact. I do believe seatbelts reduce some traumatic injuries/fatalities. I wear a seatbelt MOST of the time. However, there are numerous factors- airbags, better brakes, cars that crumple around passenger compartments, etc that factor into safety. Seat belt nannies will cite &#039;the fact&#039; that 95% of all car seats are incorrectly installed and that children are at risk because of this. Do you really believe that a car seat with 2&quot; play in the seatbelt is more dangerous than a car seat with the recommended 1&quot;? 

We can examine these issues by comparing a state that doesn&#039;t have seat belt laws (New Hampshire) and to comparable states that do. I believe that seat belts are worthwhile, but I don&#039;t believe that not wearing them is the scourge to public health that nannies proclaim. I believe that seat belt laws are more about generating revenue than increasing safety. 

MADD will swear that raising the drinking age to 21 reduces highway fatalities. The US has some of the strictest drinking laws in the free world. They don&#039;t work. The govt and MADD have repeatedly been exposed fudging data. 

We&#039;re creating laws based on anectodal evidence. Now there are federal grants available for police departments to enforce seat belt laws, underage drinking, etc. They haven&#039;t made us safer. They have generated a bunch of revenue for the govt.

These laws are designed to protect us from ourselves. Should we really be prosecuting people when they&#039;re not harming anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30 |  boomshanka<br />
&#8216;#27 So, are you actually arguing that seatbelts don’t significantly reduce the risk of injury or death in an accident?&#8217;</p>
<p>not at all. I&#8217;m stating that there&#8217;s so much propaganda, the bullshit govt stats are taken as fact. I do believe seatbelts reduce some traumatic injuries/fatalities. I wear a seatbelt MOST of the time. However, there are numerous factors- airbags, better brakes, cars that crumple around passenger compartments, etc that factor into safety. Seat belt nannies will cite &#8216;the fact&#8217; that 95% of all car seats are incorrectly installed and that children are at risk because of this. Do you really believe that a car seat with 2&#8243; play in the seatbelt is more dangerous than a car seat with the recommended 1&#8243;? </p>
<p>We can examine these issues by comparing a state that doesn&#8217;t have seat belt laws (New Hampshire) and to comparable states that do. I believe that seat belts are worthwhile, but I don&#8217;t believe that not wearing them is the scourge to public health that nannies proclaim. I believe that seat belt laws are more about generating revenue than increasing safety. </p>
<p>MADD will swear that raising the drinking age to 21 reduces highway fatalities. The US has some of the strictest drinking laws in the free world. They don&#8217;t work. The govt and MADD have repeatedly been exposed fudging data. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re creating laws based on anectodal evidence. Now there are federal grants available for police departments to enforce seat belt laws, underage drinking, etc. They haven&#8217;t made us safer. They have generated a bunch of revenue for the govt.</p>
<p>These laws are designed to protect us from ourselves. Should we really be prosecuting people when they&#8217;re not harming anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll next want a ban on bored but adventurous girlfriends in the passenger seat...</description>
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		<title>By: oldfatherwilliam</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldfatherwilliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who believes, really believes, that he/she is as competent driving while texting or talking on a cell is a deluded simpleton.  End of story.  There will always be drivers less competent than oneself, but that&#039;s hardly a valid excuse for making yourself incompetent as well.  Let&#039;s all try to get beyond terminal adolescence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who believes, really believes, that he/she is as competent driving while texting or talking on a cell is a deluded simpleton.  End of story.  There will always be drivers less competent than oneself, but that&#8217;s hardly a valid excuse for making yourself incompetent as well.  Let&#8217;s all try to get beyond terminal adolescence.</p>
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		<title>By: boomshanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>boomshanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, that&#039;s #28 of course</description>
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		<title>By: boomshanka</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2010/02/24/dot-sec-lahood-takes-aim-at-texting-while-driving-car-gadgetry-sound-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-386089</link>
		<dc:creator>boomshanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27 So, are you actually arguing that seatbelts don&#039;t significantly reduce the risk of injury or death in an accident?

In other news, smoking causes cancer, but that&#039;s just anecdotal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27 So, are you actually arguing that seatbelts don&#8217;t significantly reduce the risk of injury or death in an accident?</p>
<p>In other news, smoking causes cancer, but that&#8217;s just anecdotal&#8230;</p>
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