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Saturday, February 20th, 2010So how long until this idiot gets caught in a public bathroom with a male prostitute?
I give it five years. It’s encouraging that he was booed, though. That wouldn’t have happened ten years ago. Or even five.
The rights theory babble is incomprehensible. Natural rights theory says we all own our own bodies, and own the product of our own labor. Not sure how you get from that to an argument that the government should be allowed to discriminate against you based on whom you allow to access your body.
(Note of explanation: The clip in the link is from a panel at this week’s Conservative Political Action Committee, the annual gathering of the righty acitvists in D.C.)
They start booing before he even mentions homosexuals. I don’t know if we should take this as encouraging sign.
Someone needs to tell him about the Olympic Orgy. I don’t think they’re handing out 100,000 condoms to promote reproduction.
That guy should go into pro wrestling. He has the act down.
Yep, sex is only for reproduction. I guess Nature forgot to let my dog know, being that he humps everything in sight…
LOLZ
“Civil rights are grounded in natural rights. Natural rights are grounded in human nature. Human nature is a rational substance in relationship to the intelligible end of the reproductive act of reproduction. Do you understand that?”
They started booing this tool even before he started in on that, almost certainly because they knew he was a bigoted retard already and could see from his demeanor that whatever he was going to say was going to be a load of shit.
What the hell is he even trying to say? I can’t figure it out. Hang on… I’ll be right back. I’m going to need a pot of coffee and about 20 minutes of sobering up time before I can figure that out…
Ok! Back! The wonders of editing made that look instantaneous! Anyway, it seems to me he was trying, and in the most incomprehensibly laborious manner possible, to link “Natural Rights” to a “Reproductive Imperative”, as if the human race was in danger of becoming extinct or something.
In technical terms, he’s a “Raving Loon”.
What the hell was he thinking when he wrote this? It’s incomprehensible! AND it’s retarded, bigoted bullshit.
I wonder if this guy has a website, I’m sure it’s good for a laugh.
“They start booing before he even mentions homosexuals.”
No, they don’t. He says “I want to condemn CPAC for bringing GOPride to this event.” They boo him a little when he says “I want to condemn [our hosts]“, and then they start amping it up when he calls out GOPride – they’re the gay group.
I thought the boos were more for general dickishness (some at him, some residual booing at the GOProud supporter that preceded him) than for his gaybashing.
I think Radley’s right about this dude being in the closet. Handsome, fashionable, and obsessed with trying to convince himself and everyone else that gays are bad.
So how long until this idiot gets caught in a public bathroom with a male prostitute?
A speaker tries to incite an anti-gay riot at the conservative conference — and nearly gets bum-rushed.
The immediate booing makes more sense when you realize that he is replying to Alexander, who also got a few boos but more cheers:
http://studentsforliberty.org/news/sfl-controversy-video/
My money is on his being caught in the barn with a sheep.
Ron Paul was the winner of the CPAC straw poll by a large margin over Mitt Romney. Romney has a beautiful tan, but he’s a Mormon with no charisma, not the next President. A primary with Romney and Palin would be great for Dr. NO whose popularity will only continue to rise no matter how many times they call him an anti-semite.
Huckabee low on the poll couldn’t make the conference, he had a double secret prayer meeting with pastor Haggard.
Just another dick that thinks he should be the one to dole out “natural” rights. I’ll just take a guess at what he wants in exchange.
So how long until this idiot gets caught in a public bathroom with a male prostitute?
I first read this thinking that odds were probably even on that.
Then I read this interview with Mr. Sorba linked below and, well…
Come on. It is, in fact, only a matter of time.
Cheers.
http://race42008.com/2010/02/20/my-fight-with-ryan-sorba-the-kid-who-denounced-goproud/
Tsu Do Nimh @#3″That guy should go into pro wrestling. He has the act down.”
Yup, against “Exotic” Adrian Street, who at age 69 would still pin him, tongue-kiss him and paint his face.
This has all the markings of a religious fanatic.
I think it’s beside the point, questioning his sexuality. It’s not a productive comment if it’s something that shouldn’t be derided.
Personally I don’t care about the “marriage” part of the gay marriage, so much as being confused as to why there’s so much effort being put into screwing even people who are legally married.
I’m starting to think that it’s about time things started getting revamped, rethought and reset. No more amendments, changes to previous laws yadda yadda, fix them, make them law, forget about what happened before. What makes sense now has no bearing on what made sense back then.
This would preferably simplify future legislation and make legalese readable.
“I wonder if this guy has a website, I’m sure it’s good for a laugh.”
http://ryansorba.blogspot.com/
Yeah, it’s good for a laugh–the guy’s a creationist loon.
See also here http://tinyurl.com/ycessx2
Seems to me this drama has been played out several times before. The 1969 YAF convention comes to mind. Every new generation, I guess, has to learn that “trad” conservatives are not friends of liberty. Let the trad conservatives ossify and retreat to their pathetic insular enclaves like Conservapedia, I say.
Time to dust off this article again. Must reading. http://mises.org/story/3090
Guess what? You just made an enemy out of me, buddy.
Hey, now that’s something to be really proud of. :)
…”Huckabee low on the poll couldn’t make the conference, he had a double secret prayer meeting with pastor Haggard.”
It’s going to be a while before I get that image out of my mind. Thanks a lot.
If you check our Sorba’s blog, he is, perhaps unsurprisingly, a fervent proponent of “Intelligent Design.” Which kind of makes sense, considering his entire argument against homosexuality hinges on the wholesale acceptance of the naturalistic fallacy.
I sometimes wonder where these guys get their info on Biblical sex! I guess he leaves out the parts of the Bible that don’t suit him, like the Song of Solomon (describing the sexual desires of Solomon, that had nothing to do with reproduction)! Or, where it says that the marriage bed is not defiled. Judging, everyone, by his “opinions”, is not so smart, in so many different ways. People like this are, often, led by “pastors” that know very little about their own religion, or what is written in the “Word”!
Many Christians believe that sex is ORDAINED by God and full enjoyment of ones marriage cannot be served by the “reproduction only” nuts! I even ran into a site with “Christian nymphos” on the net! They, actually, state that they are not really nymphos, but they are women believe in a very good sex life, while in the Christian faith.
Anyone, who wants to judge homosexuals, needs to know that heterosexuals are, really, just as bad when it comes to following the tenants of the religion and sexual behavior. I found, that even as a Christian, it could be hard to control and impossible to maintain perfection. Maybe that is where the “judge not ” stuff really should enter in. Sort of like throwing stones and living in a glass house!
I bet it’s much simpler than that: I think he jacks off when people’s rights are disturbed. This bastard shoots a wad when a a law is passed that criminalizes his greatest fear: the nipple.
Guys like Sorba lend false legitimacy to other politicians who do not behave as outrageously. This is a dangerous sleight-of-hand. ALL politicians are corrupt, because power itself is corrupt.
There’s always been an unsettling tinge of bromance going on in the religious right gay basher circles. And this guy just screams it.
As a right-leaning student, I too made the CPAC pilgrimage once many years ago as part of a big College Republicans-sponsored group. There was this one guy who was a vice president or something in our club – a big time fraternity bro and all around douchebag who gave off that vibe that he was always looking for a public office to run for.
He was also a hard core religious right Baptist and was always ranting about the evil gays. I was somewhat surprised when our group (about 30 people) got up to CPAC and checked in the hotel because Mr. Gay-hating Frat Douchebag informed us (in part to our relief) that he wasn’t staying with the rest of the group in any of the rooms they’d reserved. A day or so later into the conference we learned that he was staying on a different floor in a room with a man who was old enough to be his father – allegedly so the two of them could work on his upcoming “campaign” for some officer position in the national College Republicans organization.
It just goes to show that the gay hating thing is generational issue. The new conservatives are obviously going to give up this policing of bedrooms. Now if we can just get them to give up policing the world, we might get somewhere.
Ooo. He has a blog:
http://ryansorba.blogspot.com/
Heh. The comments to his circular babblings are priceless.
Hell, this guy makes the Flat Earthers seem rational by comparison.
It gets old quick, though… he basically just respouts the failed pseudo theories of the religious cranks that came before him.
Heh:
“Intelligent Design is a far more plausible explanation for the universe and life, if one observes nature, if one practices the scientific method.”
LOLOL
Where else but the interwebs can you get free entertainment like this?
I swear I’m not making this up.
This kid has Terry Dolan and Roy Kohn written all over him. As for his speech, methinks the laddie doth protest too much.
#10 made me think of this. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCRE9qOgbug
Dirty deeds done with sheep.
#24 Bob
Guys like that make me question “intelligent design.” Or, at least, their part of it.
#15:
Questioning his sexuality is neither nonproductive nor beside the point. Being gay isn’t something to be derided, that isn’t why we’d question the sexuality of someone like Sorba. If he was talking about economic policy and Radley said “he’s probably gay” then that would be derision. But that isn’t what happened.
What we have here is a guy who is making a virulent and impassioned argument to restrict the liberty of other people. Those kinds of arguments are, historically, rooted in a speaker’s fear of their own desires. If Sorba was in hotpants grinding his way along to Lady Gaga in a club somewhere his sexuality would be a non-issue in this discussion. The reason it becomes an issue is the hypocrisy and the willingness he has to tyrannize others because he is afraid of his own desires.
Government must not be allowed to discriminate in the way it treats peaceable folk.
Government also has no business at all being involved in marriage of any sort.
Alex Knepper has always struck me as something of a doofus but I gotta give him credit for this: http://race42008.com/2010/02/20/my-fight-with-ryan-sorba-the-kid-who-denounced-goproud/
The reason he gets boo’ed before speaking is because right before him, Alexander McCobin of Students for Liberty spoke. He thanks CPAC for bringing GOPRIDE to CPAC. He was greeted with mostly loud cheers (the crowd was in there getting ready to hear Ron Paul speak), but one of the fellow speakers on the stage was leaning into his mic and boo’ing–as well as giving thumbs-down. That idiot was Ryan Sorba.
We also have NO IDEA why he singled out Jeff Frazee. Frazee says he wasn’t booing and didn’t shout anything–so it’s a mystery.
Unrelated to the thread, but if this turns out to be true it is pretty fucked up. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/evidence-runaway-toyotas-imprisoned-camry-owner/story?id=9903455&page=2
“I’m against mens kissin mens, for any reason, but when womerns do it… [coughs]… That, uh, that seems alright.”
-Early Cuyler, Squidbillie
Personally, I engage in sex for pleasure and pleasure only. Ryan Sorba is just wrong.
Why is this even a political issue? Oh, big government socialism. Got it.
I wish CPAC had a convention every week. Those things are the purest form of entertainment.
#37
Boyd,
It becomes a political issue when he brings his religious beliefs into the fold. Granted, I want my politicians to have moral views that guide their actions. Then again, we don’t need some nut telling everybody that they have to live by a very limited standard, dictated by him. That is when religion is intruding on government. In our country, I thought that was forbidden by the Constitution.
Just like I would never dream of trying to force someone into any sort of religious belief, I feel no one has the right to dictate mine. But, we must maintain the system the founding fathers granted us through the Constitution. (They never mentioned gays, but you know they were around!) No one has the right to look down their noses at any other group of people in this country. But, Christians, who should believe in loving their neighbors, freedom, and free will, continue to do crazy things like this! My Bible condemns a lot of behavior. I never read where we are to abuse our fellow human beings. In fact , it is just the opposite of what I see in this guys behavior. The more immoral laws, against consensual behavior, that these people create, the more freedom, ALL OF US lose! I do not have to be gay to want justice for all, like our pledge says! That is certainly, not loving my neighbor as myself! I guess we are all, just, too darn, judgmental.
An aside to this, I really got ticked when I read the responses to the figure skating competition where the “macho guys” talked about the “girlie” and “sissy” skaters! Maybe part of the reason the sport does not attract as many straight people is because of the abuse skaters get! I skated, in competition, before, and it is not as easy as the lowlives think! But the again, why would I even believe that they are thinking before spouting off such abuse? It must give them a thrill to be able to hate on someone! Maybe they get off on it!
CPAC also boo’d Bob Barr when he said that water boarding is torture and that terrorism is a crime that should be handled by the courts and not the military. Torture has replaced homosexual prejudice.
Apparently someone misinterpreted my comment. I wasn’t saying the GOProud supporter was being a dick, I was saying it seemed like some in the crowd were booing the guy that came up afterwards for denouncing CPAC rather than for him being a homophobic asshole.
@34: The cynical answer would be that he’s sublimating physical attraction.
It’s either that, or he didn’t like him to begin with. Things like this can’t be explained with reason.
Best part of the whole clip was the woman coming on afterward and saying “Freedom of Opinion”. That’s the good news about the guy speaking. It was good he got to express his beliefs and that he got booed for it. I believe the changes in law that will extend equal benefit of legal protections to gay couples that straight couples have is inevitable, I am less certain about the future of free speech. Hate crimes and other laws are growing. I wonder how far we are from the day when gays couples have equal protection, but Sorba can be arrested for saying he doesn’t like it. I’m afraid that days coming unless something changes.
And Michael G, I hold sacred my right to “look down my nose” on anyone I want. I most certainly have that right, and so does every American. As long as I don’t defraud or harm them I am free to express my hate. To me, that’s the greatest strength in this country, the right to hold and express a minority opinion, no matter how odious.
42: That wouldn’t be sublimation, it would be reaction formation. Sublimation is when libidinal energy is rerouted to a creative pursuit, its a higher order defense. Reaction formation, on the other hand, is just reversing the repressed wish.