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Sunday, February 14th, 2010
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  1. #1 |  Marty | 

    that valentine’s not as crappy as a hallmark card and gas station rose.

    Reason should be ashamed of itself- that is profane!

    The key to the comic book collector is the ‘Without a plea deal with federal authorities, he faced a maximum 15-year sentence.’ A for sure 6 months vs a possible 15 years and he’s fighting deep pockets. We’re all a plea away from prison…

  2. #2 |  InMD | 

    That manga stuff is pretty weird. Nevertheless I fail to find a justification for jailing someone for what are essentially drawings. I mean, what if someone wrote a novel without pictures that vividly described the same things? Would that not be allowed? I don’t think that an identifiable victim should be the absolute and sole determination of whether an activity is handled by the criminal justice system but that consideration needs to be fundamental in the determination. I mean, who was hurt by these pictures/cartoons and what was accomplished by jailing this guy?

  3. #3 |  Marty | 

    nothing was accomplished by jailing this guy, but the guilty plea will get mileage- when people plea, the convictions add up quickly and that looks good. the cops who investigated this ‘internet kiddie porn’ or whatever crime will use this as proof of their effectiveness.

    I’m curious if the guy’s gonna be on a sex offender registry upon release…

  4. #4 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #2 InMD

    That manga stuff is pretty weird. Nevertheless I fail to find a justification for jailing someone for what are essentially drawings. I mean, what if someone wrote a novel without pictures that vividly described the same things? Would that not be allowed?

    No.

  5. #5 |  Dave Krueger | 

    I think child porn cases are increasingly being prosecuted under obscenity, laws thereby sidestepping Supreme Court rulings that pornography that doesn’t use actual children isn’t covered by child porn laws.

    I’ve looked repeatedly, but I have yet to find the obscenity exception to the First Amendment. It must be written in invisible ink.

  6. #6 |  Andrew S. | 

    Apparently, TLC didn’t think that “Police Women of Broward County” was an offensive enough show. Nope. They’ve decided they have to top themselves.

    Saw a commercial this morning for… Police Women of Maricopa County. Can’t wait to see the fawning Arpaio appearances in that one.

  7. #7 |  Michael Chaney | 

    It’s kind of hard to skip the Amy Bishop story, too. For those unfamiliar, Bishop is the nutcase professor who just shot 6 people in Huntsville after being denied tenure. 3 are dead.

    Turns out that in 1986 she shot and killed her own brother with a 12ga shotgun. Her mother was politically connected, and basically she was released with no charges and records destroyed. More here:

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/02/killer-socialist-professor-amy-bishop-shot-killed-her-brother-in-1986/

  8. #8 |  Chuchundra | 

    Killer socialist professor? Excuse me, but I won’t be clicking on that link.

  9. #9 |  Tsu Dho Nihm | 

    We’re all a plea away from prison…

    And depending on your perspective that’s either a bug or a feature of the System.

  10. #10 |  Tsu Dho Nihm | 

    Also, on the Handley case…I think this link may very well have been posted here before, but it’s worth posting again – Neil Gaiman on Why Defending Icky Speech Is Important.

  11. #11 |  thorn | 

    I’m curious about one thing, Radley… why did you phrase the bullet point as:

    – Comic book collector gets six months in prison for importing manga.

    instead of more accurately

    – Comic book collector gets six months in prison for importing manga which depicts the rape and torture of children.

    It because you think posting the more accurate description would hinder people clicking the link, or because you think the subject matter of the the manga isn’t relevant?

  12. #12 |  anarch, just guessing | 

    Because he thinks the subject matter of the manga shouldn’t be relevant to his imprisonment.

  13. #13 |  Saint Zero | 

    Re: L&O

    I’m beginning to sympathize with the dogs about Law and Odor.

  14. #14 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Re: #8

    According to one of the commenters on ratemyprofessor, she’s a socialist, but only talks about it after class. Socialism is pretty much the opposite of libertarianism, not sure why that bothers you.

    Unrelated – there’s now an interview with Bishop’s husband. He says that after she shot 6 people she called him and asked him to pick her up. By the time he got there, she was arrested already.

  15. #15 |  billy-jay | 

    Protip, thorn:

    They’re not real children.

  16. #16 |  thorn | 

    Protip, Billy-jay:

    That’s why I used the word “depicts” and not “documents”.

  17. #17 |  Davis | 

    According to one of the commenters on ratemyprofessor, she’s a socialist, but only talks about it after class.

    This was the same commenter who described her as “hot”, so I’m not especially inclined to take his word on the “socialist” part.

  18. #18 |  Davis | 

    It because you think posting the more accurate description would hinder people clicking the link, or because you think the subject matter of the the manga isn’t relevant?

    Do you think that drawings depicting certain subject matter should be illegal? If you do, then feel free to explain how you would justify not criminalizing Nabokov’s Lolita.

  19. #19 |  thorn | 

    Davis,

    I’m asking about the style of headline writing. Clearly there is a difference between “Man arrested for driving” and “Man arrested for driving 140 MPH” – and I’m curious why Radley chose the former when the latter is quite a bit more accurate.

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  21. #21 |  Michael Chaney | 

    RE: #17

    Presumably he’s blind but turned on by socialist tendencies?

    Re: #18

    You’d think that it’d be a (relatively) good thing that people inclined to look at kiddie porn would get their fix from drawings rather than photos. As the 3D poser software becomes more realistic, this will lead to more issues as it becomes more difficult to tell real from fake.

  22. #22 |  anarch, just guessing | 

    thorn, the analogy would be to “Man arrested for driving 140 mph on his private racecourse,” or, to put it most generically (and accurately, and significantly) “Man arrested for committing victimless crime.”

    To my view, the headline used here is optimal, since by deliberately omitting the shock value that in too many people reflexively provokes the creation of bad laws, it forces readers to assess the category from which the unpopular species commonly distracts reasoned consideration.

    “Man arrested for importing drawings” would do about as well.

  23. #23 |  Andrew S. | 

    19. #19 | thorn | February 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Davis,

    I’m asking about the style of headline writing. Clearly there is a difference between “Man arrested for driving” and “Man arrested for driving 140 MPH” – and I’m curious why Radley chose the former when the latter is quite a bit more accurate.

    This is more akin, quite frankly, to “man arrested for driving 140 MPH in video game”

  24. #24 |  anarch, just guessing | 

    I concede my bid to the Honorable Andrew S. #23.

  25. #25 |  pam | 

    heaven forbid he should act out his fantasies through cartoon characters instead of in real life. Either way, you’re f’ed

  26. #26 |  thorn | 

    Driving 140 MPH on a private race course (or in a video game) isn’t a crime for which you can be arrested.

    – Man arrested in own home for smoking
    – Man arrested in own home for smoking marijuana

    Do I think you should be legally allowed to smoke pot @ home if you like? Sure, I don’t care – smoke all you want. But the fact is that in this example (and the real one, involving manga), the guy is facing charges for the contraband, not the literal action of smoking or importing a comic book.

    – Man arrested for masturbating
    – Man arrested for masturbating in the middle of a city park

    Go ahead and click the “thumbs down”… you know want to. ;)

  27. #27 |  anarch, just guessing | 

    Decitify the park, problem solved.

  28. #28 |  Steve Verdon | 

    protip thorn,

    Driving 140 MPH on a private race course (or in a video game) isn’t a crime for which you can be arrested.

    Sure it is, disturbing the peace. The catch all that the cops use to arrest people.

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