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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: bobzbob</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379337</link>
		<dc:creator>bobzbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The logical conclusion of Radley&#039;s preferred interpretation of the &quot;innocent owner&quot; defense would allow criminals to shield their proceeds from forfeiture by placing 1% ownership in an &quot;innocent&quot; 3rd party.

If you are an owner, even in part, you need to do due diligence to ensure that your property is not being used for criminal activity, or risk losing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logical conclusion of Radley&#8217;s preferred interpretation of the &#8220;innocent owner&#8221; defense would allow criminals to shield their proceeds from forfeiture by placing 1% ownership in an &#8220;innocent&#8221; 3rd party.</p>
<p>If you are an owner, even in part, you need to do due diligence to ensure that your property is not being used for criminal activity, or risk losing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379179</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the car story... This isn&#039;t &quot;spouse&quot;, this is &quot;joint owner&quot;.

C&#039;mon Radley, that wasn&#039;t quite accurate was it. And I think it&#039;d ridiculous that a car should be immune simply because it&#039;s jointly owned. Fine, if you insist on that then have a fine equal to the assessed value of the car. Sorted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the car story&#8230; This isn&#8217;t &#8220;spouse&#8221;, this is &#8220;joint owner&#8221;.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Radley, that wasn&#8217;t quite accurate was it. And I think it&#8217;d ridiculous that a car should be immune simply because it&#8217;s jointly owned. Fine, if you insist on that then have a fine equal to the assessed value of the car. Sorted.</p>
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		<title>By: André</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379175</link>
		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@58: &quot;Why don’t they get challenged?&quot;

Because of snarling attack ads in elections accusing the incumbent of being soft on drunk drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@58: &#8220;Why don’t they get challenged?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because of snarling attack ads in elections accusing the incumbent of being soft on drunk drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379174</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole forfeiture for property used while committing a crime is fascinating to me.  Forfeiture originally was supposed to be so that crime lords couldn&#039;t keep their ill-gotten gains, and I totally support it for that purpose.  Think &quot;Bernie Madoff gets to keep the cash&quot;.  Obviously not proper.

But we&#039;re now taking a car because the driver was drunk?  That&#039;s not ill-gotten property.  At what point do we stop?  Seriously.  Forfeit the car because you&#039;re speeding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole forfeiture for property used while committing a crime is fascinating to me.  Forfeiture originally was supposed to be so that crime lords couldn&#8217;t keep their ill-gotten gains, and I totally support it for that purpose.  Think &#8220;Bernie Madoff gets to keep the cash&#8221;.  Obviously not proper.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re now taking a car because the driver was drunk?  That&#8217;s not ill-gotten property.  At what point do we stop?  Seriously.  Forfeit the car because you&#8217;re speeding?</p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thank god I live in the great state of Wisconsin where drunk driving isn&#039;t a criminal offense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thank god I live in the great state of Wisconsin where drunk driving isn&#8217;t a criminal offense!</p>
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		<title>By: Kino</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379163</link>
		<dc:creator>Kino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: WaPo ~ Internet 1   dead tree Media 0</description>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379162</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As for videotaping them, IMHO no cop is going to do that willingly when he can just say whatever he wants to say on the arrest report, knowing that if there is a dispute, his testimony will win out 99% of the time.&lt;/i&gt;

The point isn&#039;t to get the FSTs video&#039;d.  The point is to give yourself room to argue later that there was no refusal to take FSTs.  Rather, there was consent with a reasonable condition attached.

Will this argument win in court?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  However, it is better than:  (i) taking unrecorded FSTs; and/or (ii) straight up refusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for videotaping them, IMHO no cop is going to do that willingly when he can just say whatever he wants to say on the arrest report, knowing that if there is a dispute, his testimony will win out 99% of the time.</i></p>
<p>The point isn&#8217;t to get the FSTs video&#8217;d.  The point is to give yourself room to argue later that there was no refusal to take FSTs.  Rather, there was consent with a reasonable condition attached.</p>
<p>Will this argument win in court?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  However, it is better than:  (i) taking unrecorded FSTs; and/or (ii) straight up refusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really wanna get mad about DWI stuff, check out duiblog.com. I think I first heard about that site on theagitator, so kudos to Radley and the gang.

FST&#039;s are conducted to gather evidence against a suspect, not to decide whether or not to arrest the suspect. According to the lawyer who writes duiblog, a cop decides whether to arrest or not at the driver&#039;s window, not after doing FST&#039;s. As for videotaping them, IMHO no cop is going to do that willingly when he can just say whatever he wants to say on the arrest report, knowing that if there is a dispute, his testimony will win out 99% of the time. So if you are asked to do FST&#039;s, I am not a lawyer, but I have read that you should politely refuse to do them unless there is some penalty for refusal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really wanna get mad about DWI stuff, check out duiblog.com. I think I first heard about that site on theagitator, so kudos to Radley and the gang.</p>
<p>FST&#8217;s are conducted to gather evidence against a suspect, not to decide whether or not to arrest the suspect. According to the lawyer who writes duiblog, a cop decides whether to arrest or not at the driver&#8217;s window, not after doing FST&#8217;s. As for videotaping them, IMHO no cop is going to do that willingly when he can just say whatever he wants to say on the arrest report, knowing that if there is a dispute, his testimony will win out 99% of the time. So if you are asked to do FST&#8217;s, I am not a lawyer, but I have read that you should politely refuse to do them unless there is some penalty for refusal.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“My consent to perform FSTs is conditional upon the performance being video recorded.”

That&#039;s a good point. Out in Raleigh they don&#039;t do videos for the field  test.
I asked why. The answer?? Too many cops  were getting in trouble for  protocol violations.  That&#039;s  a good reason to discontinue a practice that
would  make it  easy to discriminate  impaired vs non-impaired  drivers, aint it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“My consent to perform FSTs is conditional upon the performance being video recorded.”</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point. Out in Raleigh they don&#8217;t do videos for the field  test.<br />
I asked why. The answer?? Too many cops  were getting in trouble for  protocol violations.  That&#8217;s  a good reason to discontinue a practice that<br />
would  make it  easy to discriminate  impaired vs non-impaired  drivers, aint it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379157</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.&lt;/i&gt;

This is why it is important to refuse a PBT by saying the magic words:

&quot;I consent to blood, non-portable breath and/or urine. That is the extent of my consent.&quot;

What would otherwise look like consciousness of guilt now becomes consciousness of innocence.

Another good one is:

&quot;My consent to perform FSTs is conditional upon the performance being video recorded.&quot;

Of course, this knind of stuff works only if you have not been drinkin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.</i></p>
<p>This is why it is important to refuse a PBT by saying the magic words:</p>
<p>&#8220;I consent to blood, non-portable breath and/or urine. That is the extent of my consent.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would otherwise look like consciousness of guilt now becomes consciousness of innocence.</p>
<p>Another good one is:</p>
<p>&#8220;My consent to perform FSTs is conditional upon the performance being video recorded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, this knind of stuff works only if you have not been drinkin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379156</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The two states I’ve been licensed in (WA and MA) are “implied consent” states in which you have the right to refuse a breath test (not sure about portability) with no criminal penalties, but your license is automatically revoked for some time (over a year, I think).&lt;/i&gt;

http://stockerlawfirm.com/DUI_CRIMINAL_PENALTIES

This site (see footnote IV) seems to indicate that you can refuse a PBT in WA, but not a Bench Breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The two states I’ve been licensed in (WA and MA) are “implied consent” states in which you have the right to refuse a breath test (not sure about portability) with no criminal penalties, but your license is automatically revoked for some time (over a year, I think).</i></p>
<p><a href="http://stockerlawfirm.com/DUI_CRIMINAL_PENALTIES" rel="nofollow">http://stockerlawfirm.com/DUI_CRIMINAL_PENALTIES</a></p>
<p>This site (see footnote IV) seems to indicate that you can refuse a PBT in WA, but not a Bench Breath.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379154</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PW, that happens way to often. Saw a guy here wrongfully arrested, charges dropped, all he ever asked for was an apology. Didn&#039;t happen. Cost the taxpayers 5000, just because some douchebag cop and city council couldn&#039;t admit to being wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PW, that happens way to often. Saw a guy here wrongfully arrested, charges dropped, all he ever asked for was an apology. Didn&#8217;t happen. Cost the taxpayers 5000, just because some douchebag cop and city council couldn&#8217;t admit to being wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379153</link>
		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story above just keeps getting better. Apparently one of the Ibarra brothers took his settlement from the lawsuit and invested it in an electric transportation company around downtown Houston. 

The company uses electric-powered carts and operates on voluntary gratuity payments...which people are evidently eager to give because the service is good. As a result the company is also not subject to the city&#039;s complex taxi cab licensing bureaucracy &amp; associated rate regulations. Now the city is furious and they&#039;re trying to force Ibarra out of business by digging up a novel interpretation of a 100 year old jitney law.

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4772819</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story above just keeps getting better. Apparently one of the Ibarra brothers took his settlement from the lawsuit and invested it in an electric transportation company around downtown Houston. </p>
<p>The company uses electric-powered carts and operates on voluntary gratuity payments&#8230;which people are evidently eager to give because the service is good. As a result the company is also not subject to the city&#8217;s complex taxi cab licensing bureaucracy &amp; associated rate regulations. Now the city is furious and they&#8217;re trying to force Ibarra out of business by digging up a novel interpretation of a 100 year old jitney law.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4772819" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4772819</a></p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a great story on what can happen when cops and prosecutors unite to coverup misconduct

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6783572.html

In 2002 a couple of cops from the Harris County, Texas Sheriff&#039;s Office roughed up two brothers, Erik and Sean Ibarra, then arrested them on false charges for the non-crime of videotaping a drug raid on a neighbor&#039;s house. The criminal charges got thrown out and the Ibarra brothers filed a civil suit in state court. Their attorney offered to settle the suit for $50,000 and a simple apology from the deputies involved. But the sheriff and the county attorney dug in their heals and decided to fight the suit out in court. Part of the county&#039;s strategy was to appeal the suit to federal court where they mistakenly thought they would have an easier time getting it dismissed. The results were finalized yesterday. Here is a short list of all the costs they racked up in the process:

- The verdict ended up costing the county (i.e. taxpayers) almost $4 million total.
- Two assistant county attorneys were found guilty of coaching witnesses during the case.
- The lawsuit inadvertently exposed a sex scandal from email records turned over during discovery, forcing the resignation of the District Attorney. The emails showed him engaged in an extramarital affair, as well as sending racist and sexually explicit material on county computers.
- The lawsuit became political fodder in the 2008 elections, where both the incumbent Sheriff and incumbent County Attorney were given the boot by voters.
- The Sheriff&#039;s office is now being monitored by the USDOJ&#039;s Civil Rights division.

And to think...all of that could have been avoided had they taken the initial deal of $50,000 and an apology. At least in this case, the thick blue wall of silence backfired. Big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great story on what can happen when cops and prosecutors unite to coverup misconduct</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6783572.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6783572.html</a></p>
<p>In 2002 a couple of cops from the Harris County, Texas Sheriff&#8217;s Office roughed up two brothers, Erik and Sean Ibarra, then arrested them on false charges for the non-crime of videotaping a drug raid on a neighbor&#8217;s house. The criminal charges got thrown out and the Ibarra brothers filed a civil suit in state court. Their attorney offered to settle the suit for $50,000 and a simple apology from the deputies involved. But the sheriff and the county attorney dug in their heals and decided to fight the suit out in court. Part of the county&#8217;s strategy was to appeal the suit to federal court where they mistakenly thought they would have an easier time getting it dismissed. The results were finalized yesterday. Here is a short list of all the costs they racked up in the process:</p>
<p>- The verdict ended up costing the county (i.e. taxpayers) almost $4 million total.<br />
- Two assistant county attorneys were found guilty of coaching witnesses during the case.<br />
- The lawsuit inadvertently exposed a sex scandal from email records turned over during discovery, forcing the resignation of the District Attorney. The emails showed him engaged in an extramarital affair, as well as sending racist and sexually explicit material on county computers.<br />
- The lawsuit became political fodder in the 2008 elections, where both the incumbent Sheriff and incumbent County Attorney were given the boot by voters.<br />
- The Sheriff&#8217;s office is now being monitored by the USDOJ&#8217;s Civil Rights division.</p>
<p>And to think&#8230;all of that could have been avoided had they taken the initial deal of $50,000 and an apology. At least in this case, the thick blue wall of silence backfired. Big time.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you guys forget: at one time the MADD-hatters advocated red-letter license plates for 1st time offenders. But I&#039;m sure that all of these problems could be solved if the drinking age was raised to 30. You know what? Fuck it, let&#039;s just abolish alcohol altogether. Shit, I&#039;m on a political roll...none of us will ever be safe until we all live in grass huts and grow our own food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you guys forget: at one time the MADD-hatters advocated red-letter license plates for 1st time offenders. But I&#8217;m sure that all of these problems could be solved if the drinking age was raised to 30. You know what? Fuck it, let&#8217;s just abolish alcohol altogether. Shit, I&#8217;m on a political roll&#8230;none of us will ever be safe until we all live in grass huts and grow our own food.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Police like to make everything into a “training” issue. Training is not the big issue. Integrity is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The trick that they&#039;re employing is to turn illegal activity into administrative issues rather than criminal law issues.  That way, rather than charging the officer with a crime, they get to simply mete out some faux punishment (suspension with pay, etc.) and he gets no criminal record.

Everything would change if we (society) would collectively grow a pair and properly punish *all* crimes, including those committed by on-duty law enforcement officers.  That includes the &quot;aiding and abetting&quot;, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Police like to make everything into a “training” issue. Training is not the big issue. Integrity is.</p></blockquote>
<p>The trick that they&#8217;re employing is to turn illegal activity into administrative issues rather than criminal law issues.  That way, rather than charging the officer with a crime, they get to simply mete out some faux punishment (suspension with pay, etc.) and he gets no criminal record.</p>
<p>Everything would change if we (society) would collectively grow a pair and properly punish *all* crimes, including those committed by on-duty law enforcement officers.  That includes the &#8220;aiding and abetting&#8221;, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.&lt;/i&gt;

Has tere really been a case in georgia where the suspect refused some tests (eg, PBT), but not others (eg, bench breath)?

I would love to have a cite if you know of such a case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.</i></p>
<p>Has tere really been a case in georgia where the suspect refused some tests (eg, PBT), but not others (eg, bench breath)?</p>
<p>I would love to have a cite if you know of such a case.</p>
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		<title>By: MDGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah,

Off topic but good news nonetheless: Cheye Calvo&#039;s lawsuit against the PG county police is moving forward. Bastards are still stonewalling on releasing the police report of the home invasion.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/ruben-castaneda/judge-rules-suit-vs-pr-georges.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah,</p>
<p>Off topic but good news nonetheless: Cheye Calvo&#8217;s lawsuit against the PG county police is moving forward. Bastards are still stonewalling on releasing the police report of the home invasion.</p>
<p><a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/ruben-castaneda/judge-rules-suit-vs-pr-georges.html" rel="nofollow">http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/ruben-castaneda/judge-rules-suit-vs-pr-georges.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379144</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 It is indeed sad. First it was drugs, then DUI, now it&#039;s the sex offenders, who knows when they are coming for the rest of us.

I practice law in GA which is about middle of the road compared to other states&#039; dui laws. Automatic license suspension if you are arrested but at least in Altanta you can get the cop to withdraw the initial suspension if your client agrees to plead guilty. First offense in the last 5 years means you can get a temporary permit for work, then get full license back after 4 months. Interlock only for repeat offenders. You have the right to a jury trial (unlike some other states). No forced blood draws (yet?). 4th DUI in 10 years is a felony.  Portable breath test is admissible in court only for presence/absence of alcohol. Intoxilyzer of .08 or above = automatic guilt and it is up to you to refute a machine you cannot cross-examine.  Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 It is indeed sad. First it was drugs, then DUI, now it&#8217;s the sex offenders, who knows when they are coming for the rest of us.</p>
<p>I practice law in GA which is about middle of the road compared to other states&#8217; dui laws. Automatic license suspension if you are arrested but at least in Altanta you can get the cop to withdraw the initial suspension if your client agrees to plead guilty. First offense in the last 5 years means you can get a temporary permit for work, then get full license back after 4 months. Interlock only for repeat offenders. You have the right to a jury trial (unlike some other states). No forced blood draws (yet?). 4th DUI in 10 years is a felony.  Portable breath test is admissible in court only for presence/absence of alcohol. Intoxilyzer of .08 or above = automatic guilt and it is up to you to refute a machine you cannot cross-examine.  Refusal of any/all tests is admissible against you and can be viewed as evidence of intoxication.</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/23/morning-links-291/comment-page-2/#comment-379142</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are a couple sites that are pretty good on the NC DUI laws.

http://www.jasonetaylor.com/dwi_dui.cfm

http://www.totaldui.com/news/articles/breathalyzer/breathalyzer-refusal.aspx

One thing I find missing is to refuse Field Sobriety Tests (FST). All good lawyers will tell you to refuse a FST as they are usually not what is going to convict you, but are going to be extra ammunition for the clown suited thug in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a couple sites that are pretty good on the NC DUI laws.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jasonetaylor.com/dwi_dui.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jasonetaylor.com/dwi_dui.cfm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.totaldui.com/news/articles/breathalyzer/breathalyzer-refusal.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.totaldui.com/news/articles/breathalyzer/breathalyzer-refusal.aspx</a></p>
<p>One thing I find missing is to refuse Field Sobriety Tests (FST). All good lawyers will tell you to refuse a FST as they are usually not what is going to convict you, but are going to be extra ammunition for the clown suited thug in court.</p>
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