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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-379051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the print story about the evidence and testimony heard by the GJ:

http://www.thetoccoarecord.com/articles/2009/12/18/news/breaking_news/doc4b2bc6fe5ffd4104383173.txt

&quot;The Grand Jury reviewed the entire investigative file of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and heard testimony from six witnesses, including Commander Kyle Bryant, Mountain Narcotics Criminal Investigation &amp; Suppression Team (NCIS); Agent Chance Oxner, Mountain NCIS; Special Agent in Charge Mike Ayers, GBI; Special Agent Megan Miller, GBI; Agent Billy Shane Harrison, Mountain NCIS; and Charles J. (Joe) Key, expert in police use of force.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the print story about the evidence and testimony heard by the GJ:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thetoccoarecord.com/articles/2009/12/18/news/breaking_news/doc4b2bc6fe5ffd4104383173.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.thetoccoarecord.com/articles/2009/12/18/news/breaking_news/doc4b2bc6fe5ffd4104383173.txt</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Grand Jury reviewed the entire investigative file of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and heard testimony from six witnesses, including Commander Kyle Bryant, Mountain Narcotics Criminal Investigation &amp; Suppression Team (NCIS); Agent Chance Oxner, Mountain NCIS; Special Agent in Charge Mike Ayers, GBI; Special Agent Megan Miller, GBI; Agent Billy Shane Harrison, Mountain NCIS; and Charles J. (Joe) Key, expert in police use of force.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-379050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is another post wherein a commenter says the following about what the news is reporting concerning the evidence put before the GJ.  If true, it must be through TV news as I can&#039;t find a print story yet.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/reader_rev_jonathan_ayers_fami.php

 Fixed said:

The news reports on this matter indicate that the grand jury only heard from the police officers involved and other &quot;expert&quot; law enforcement witnesses. It seems a little odd to me that none of the impartial witnesses present at the scene were brought before the grand jury. . . and it somewhat unsettling that a bunch of law enforcement officers would come out with guns drawn against a person who they had not first identified. If I were put in the same situation as Pastor Ayers, I believe I would have run for my life and acted just as he did. These officers were negligent and careless and should not be trusted with guns. It appears that the foxes were guarding the hen house at this grand jury proceeding !
Posted 12/21/2009 at 10:43:38 PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another post wherein a commenter says the following about what the news is reporting concerning the evidence put before the GJ.  If true, it must be through TV news as I can&#8217;t find a print story yet.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/reader_rev_jonathan_ayers_fami.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/reader_rev_jonathan_ayers_fami.php</a></p>
<p> Fixed said:</p>
<p>The news reports on this matter indicate that the grand jury only heard from the police officers involved and other &#8220;expert&#8221; law enforcement witnesses. It seems a little odd to me that none of the impartial witnesses present at the scene were brought before the grand jury. . . and it somewhat unsettling that a bunch of law enforcement officers would come out with guns drawn against a person who they had not first identified. If I were put in the same situation as Pastor Ayers, I believe I would have run for my life and acted just as he did. These officers were negligent and careless and should not be trusted with guns. It appears that the foxes were guarding the hen house at this grand jury proceeding !<br />
Posted 12/21/2009 at 10:43:38 PM</p>
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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-379049</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just found this.  Look how the GJ in the Ayer&#039;s case was conducted.

http://www.thenortheastgeorgian.com/articles/2009/12/15/news/top_stories/01topstory.txt

&quot;I am deeply disappointed, however, to now learn that the usual practice in presenting cases to a grand jury will not be followed concerning the death of my husband,&quot; her statement reads.

&quot;I understand that a first grand jury will be asked to consider the case and to give an advisory opinion on whether a second grand jury should be asked to receive evidence and decide whether to return any criminal indictments against the shooter and others responsible for Jonathan&#039;s death,&quot; her statement reads. &quot;I feel that this tilts the system unfairly in favor of those whose conduct led to this tragic and shocking loss of my husband and his family, including his unborn child that I am bearing.&quot;

&quot;I intend to follow the law and all recourse available to me to see that justice is done, and that all those responsible for Jonathan&#039;s death are held accountable,&quot; her statement concludes.

Rickman responded to Ayers&#039; statement with the following written statement:

&quot;The district attorney&#039;s office will be presenting the full results of the investigation conducted by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation into the shooting death of Jonathan Ayers to the Stephens County Grand Jury for their review. The grand jury will be asked to determine whether the officer&#039;s use of lethal force was justified under Georgia law and if not, whether criminal charges are supported by the evidence and Georgia law. This process is important for a fair and transparent review of the facts and circumstances of this tragic event by the citizen members of the Grand Jury.&quot;


What did this &quot;first&quot; grand jury consider?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this.  Look how the GJ in the Ayer&#8217;s case was conducted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenortheastgeorgian.com/articles/2009/12/15/news/top_stories/01topstory.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenortheastgeorgian.com/articles/2009/12/15/news/top_stories/01topstory.txt</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I am deeply disappointed, however, to now learn that the usual practice in presenting cases to a grand jury will not be followed concerning the death of my husband,&#8221; her statement reads.</p>
<p>&#8220;I understand that a first grand jury will be asked to consider the case and to give an advisory opinion on whether a second grand jury should be asked to receive evidence and decide whether to return any criminal indictments against the shooter and others responsible for Jonathan&#8217;s death,&#8221; her statement reads. &#8220;I feel that this tilts the system unfairly in favor of those whose conduct led to this tragic and shocking loss of my husband and his family, including his unborn child that I am bearing.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I intend to follow the law and all recourse available to me to see that justice is done, and that all those responsible for Jonathan&#8217;s death are held accountable,&#8221; her statement concludes.</p>
<p>Rickman responded to Ayers&#8217; statement with the following written statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;The district attorney&#8217;s office will be presenting the full results of the investigation conducted by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation into the shooting death of Jonathan Ayers to the Stephens County Grand Jury for their review. The grand jury will be asked to determine whether the officer&#8217;s use of lethal force was justified under Georgia law and if not, whether criminal charges are supported by the evidence and Georgia law. This process is important for a fair and transparent review of the facts and circumstances of this tragic event by the citizen members of the Grand Jury.&#8221;</p>
<p>What did this &#8220;first&#8221; grand jury consider?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerri Lynn Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-379048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerri Lynn Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kayla Barrett is part of a little crime wave in her part of the country:

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2009/dec/18/police-say-burglary-ringleader-captured/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kayla Barrett is part of a little crime wave in her part of the country:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independentmail.com/news/2009/dec/18/police-say-burglary-ringleader-captured/" rel="nofollow">http://www.independentmail.com/news/2009/dec/18/police-say-burglary-ringleader-captured/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Watching</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-379036</link>
		<dc:creator>Watching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen to the recording on the WNEG website of what Kayla Barrett told the GBI on September 1 (within hours of the shooting and before Ayers died) about their relationship, and BEFORE the news broke that he was a pastor (she told the GBI in this interview that she didn&#039;t know what his job was).  Make up your own mind about their relationship.  Does it sound like he is &quot;ministering&quot; to her?

http://wneg32.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=2080:ayers-case-file-opened&amp;catid=1:latest-news&amp;Itemid=18]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to the recording on the WNEG website of what Kayla Barrett told the GBI on September 1 (within hours of the shooting and before Ayers died) about their relationship, and BEFORE the news broke that he was a pastor (she told the GBI in this interview that she didn&#8217;t know what his job was).  Make up your own mind about their relationship.  Does it sound like he is &#8220;ministering&#8221; to her?</p>
<p><a href="http://wneg32.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=2080:ayers-case-file-opened&#038;catid=1:latest-news&#038;Itemid=18" rel="nofollow">http://wneg32.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=2080:ayers-case-file-opened&#038;catid=1:latest-news&#038;Itemid=18</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378994</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
&#124;  Windy &#124;  December 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 am 
Excuse me but isn’t the buying of votes a form of bribery? And isn’t holding back one’s vote until one gets concessions a form of extortion? And are those both not impeachable/prosecutable offenses?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Libertarians are &lt;b&gt;soooo cute&lt;/b&gt; when they think that laws should apply to the boss class.&lt;/i&gt;

/snark]]></description>
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|  Windy |  December 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 am<br />
Excuse me but isn’t the buying of votes a form of bribery? And isn’t holding back one’s vote until one gets concessions a form of extortion? And are those both not impeachable/prosecutable offenses?
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<p><i>Libertarians are <b>soooo cute</b> when they think that laws should apply to the boss class.</i></p>
<p>/snark</p>
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		<title>By: flukebucket</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378978</link>
		<dc:creator>flukebucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the links Michael Chaney.

And can anybody tell me where Elle is getting her/his information?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links Michael Chaney.</p>
<p>And can anybody tell me where Elle is getting her/his information?</p>
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		<title>By: Windy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378968</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me but isn&#039;t the buying of votes a form of bribery?  And isn&#039;t holding back one&#039;s vote until one gets concessions a form of extortion?  And are those both not impeachable/prosecutable offenses?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me but isn&#8217;t the buying of votes a form of bribery?  And isn&#8217;t holding back one&#8217;s vote until one gets concessions a form of extortion?  And are those both not impeachable/prosecutable offenses?</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378954</link>
		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Maybe an asteroid will land on the Capital building and cloture their asses into dust.&quot;

Funny. Every time they have one of those state of the union gatherings a small part of me kinda wishes that one of those Roland Emmerich movie plots would unfold where the capitol gets flattened by a giant meteor, tidal wave, alien spaceship, and/or global warming-induced &quot;thundersnow&quot; hurricane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe an asteroid will land on the Capital building and cloture their asses into dust.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny. Every time they have one of those state of the union gatherings a small part of me kinda wishes that one of those Roland Emmerich movie plots would unfold where the capitol gets flattened by a giant meteor, tidal wave, alien spaceship, and/or global warming-induced &#8220;thundersnow&#8221; hurricane.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378951</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
When innocent people get killed/murdered by cops, I often wonder if the cops involved have a hard time getting over it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cops never kill innocent people, therefore they never have anything to get over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
When innocent people get killed/murdered by cops, I often wonder if the cops involved have a hard time getting over it.
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<p>Cops never kill innocent people, therefore they never have anything to get over.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378949</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of &quot;Police State Bingo&quot; is &quot;What you don&#039;t see on the video is...&quot; and sure enough they called that square.  I guess we have to take their word that the officer (off duty) was responding to a 911 call...or maybe a call over his walkie-talkie...or smoke signals that weren&#039;t recorded but justified his pulling his gun.  Had he shot and killed someone, that be justimifyiable 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of &#8220;Police State Bingo&#8221; is &#8220;What you don&#8217;t see on the video is&#8230;&#8221; and sure enough they called that square.  I guess we have to take their word that the officer (off duty) was responding to a 911 call&#8230;or maybe a call over his walkie-talkie&#8230;or smoke signals that weren&#8217;t recorded but justified his pulling his gun.  Had he shot and killed someone, that be justimifyiable 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Overthrow</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378945</link>
		<dc:creator>Overthrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone&#039;s entitled to their own opinion.   I&#039;d rate &quot;Mullholland Drive&quot; one of the best movies of the quarter century, myself.    What about it did you not like/understand?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s entitled to their own opinion.   I&#8217;d rate &#8220;Mullholland Drive&#8221; one of the best movies of the quarter century, myself.    What about it did you not like/understand?</p>
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		<title>By: ZappaCrappa</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378940</link>
		<dc:creator>ZappaCrappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DC Cop goes international:  So the chief now says he acted inappropriately...the asst chief says his actions were appropriate...I wonder if the chief will now face retribution for breaking the blue code of silence?

A side note...after 25 years of voting, I have FINALLY been ordered to report for jury duty.  Odds of being selected to sit on an actual jury:

If I say what they want to hear....50/50.  If I am honest....0.  By the way...my buddy recently got pulled over by the Mckinney police and they stole his cell phone...after tearing his car apart for 30 mins and finding nothing.  No charges.  He isn&#039;t even sure why he got pulled over besides being african american.  I believe him.  I think I&#039;m going to tell them what they want to hear so I can play too.  Sorry for going off-topic but I was just all giddy with the news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC Cop goes international:  So the chief now says he acted inappropriately&#8230;the asst chief says his actions were appropriate&#8230;I wonder if the chief will now face retribution for breaking the blue code of silence?</p>
<p>A side note&#8230;after 25 years of voting, I have FINALLY been ordered to report for jury duty.  Odds of being selected to sit on an actual jury:</p>
<p>If I say what they want to hear&#8230;.50/50.  If I am honest&#8230;.0.  By the way&#8230;my buddy recently got pulled over by the Mckinney police and they stole his cell phone&#8230;after tearing his car apart for 30 mins and finding nothing.  No charges.  He isn&#8217;t even sure why he got pulled over besides being african american.  I believe him.  I think I&#8217;m going to tell them what they want to hear so I can play too.  Sorry for going off-topic but I was just all giddy with the news.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378939</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#54 Con’t:

Continued from WHERE? Perhaps from your excuse for a brain?

Troll pwned. EPIC fail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 Con’t:</p>
<p>Continued from WHERE? Perhaps from your excuse for a brain?</p>
<p>Troll pwned. EPIC fail.</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378938</link>
		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[//There are many exceptions to the hearsay rule, and if the administrators had their way, lab test reports would just be another permitted exception.//

An honest court would look at the rights the government is required to honor, and see if government policies actually honor such rights in such fashion as to be meaningful.  Unfortunately, many courts instead simply look to see if government policies give lip service to people&#039;s rights.  We need courts that will recognize that recognize that deliberate efforts to undermine people&#039;s rights while giving some lip service to them are illegitimate.  If the purpose of a government action is to make it difficult for someone to confront his accuser, the action is illegitimate even if it doesn&#039;t make confrontation totally impossible.

It&#039;s interesting to compare the rules of some sports with that of tournament bridge.  In many sports, violations which the ref doesn&#039;t catch aren&#039;t violations, and it is perfectly proper for players to commit violations in the hope of getting away with them.  Players may be admired for bending the rules and getting away with it.  In bridge, deliberate violation or even bending of the rules is cheating; cheaters are not admired.  I wish today&#039;s government were more like bridge than the other sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//There are many exceptions to the hearsay rule, and if the administrators had their way, lab test reports would just be another permitted exception.//</p>
<p>An honest court would look at the rights the government is required to honor, and see if government policies actually honor such rights in such fashion as to be meaningful.  Unfortunately, many courts instead simply look to see if government policies give lip service to people&#8217;s rights.  We need courts that will recognize that recognize that deliberate efforts to undermine people&#8217;s rights while giving some lip service to them are illegitimate.  If the purpose of a government action is to make it difficult for someone to confront his accuser, the action is illegitimate even if it doesn&#8217;t make confrontation totally impossible.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to compare the rules of some sports with that of tournament bridge.  In many sports, violations which the ref doesn&#8217;t catch aren&#8217;t violations, and it is perfectly proper for players to commit violations in the hope of getting away with them.  Players may be admired for bending the rules and getting away with it.  In bridge, deliberate violation or even bending of the rules is cheating; cheaters are not admired.  I wish today&#8217;s government were more like bridge than the other sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378937</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#12 So cloture prevents bleeding? I thought clotting did that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 So cloture prevents bleeding? I thought clotting did that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378936</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just copied the Barbie boner pill ad to my Pics file. : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just copied the Barbie boner pill ad to my Pics file. : )</p>
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		<title>By: André</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378935</link>
		<dc:creator>André</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really liked the Baader-Meinhof Complex, but I doubt that&#039;ll ever be released in the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked the Baader-Meinhof Complex, but I doubt that&#8217;ll ever be released in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378934</link>
		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[//The defense SHOULD be able to discredit the forensic witness. But it is usually very hard (both from a legal and practical perspective) to discredit your OWN witness.//

If the prosecution calls a witness, the prosecution has to present its questions before the defense, and the defense can thus tailor its questions and arguments around those of the prosecution.  If the defense calls the witness, the situation is reversed.  A deceptive witness will be helped greatly by having the party that favors the witness get the last word.

Further, if the prosecution is allowed to introduce evidence from a witness and wait until after the jury has regarded it as &quot;true&quot; before the defense is allowed to challenge it, having the defense call the witness to the stand and immediately trying to tear him down isn&#039;t going to win any points from the jury.  Rebuttal needs to be immediate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//The defense SHOULD be able to discredit the forensic witness. But it is usually very hard (both from a legal and practical perspective) to discredit your OWN witness.//</p>
<p>If the prosecution calls a witness, the prosecution has to present its questions before the defense, and the defense can thus tailor its questions and arguments around those of the prosecution.  If the defense calls the witness, the situation is reversed.  A deceptive witness will be helped greatly by having the party that favors the witness get the last word.</p>
<p>Further, if the prosecution is allowed to introduce evidence from a witness and wait until after the jury has regarded it as &#8220;true&#8221; before the defense is allowed to challenge it, having the defense call the witness to the stand and immediately trying to tear him down isn&#8217;t going to win any points from the jury.  Rebuttal needs to be immediate.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/21/morning-links-289/comment-page-2/#comment-378932</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, last post I promise.  Here&#039;s what Kayla Barrett was saying (through her family) a couple of months ago:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/Lavonia+Minister+103009

See how that compares to her GBI interview...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, last post I promise.  Here&#8217;s what Kayla Barrett was saying (through her family) a couple of months ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/Lavonia+Minister+103009" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/Lavonia+Minister+103009</a></p>
<p>See how that compares to her GBI interview&#8230;</p>
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