Comments on: Indianapolis Tacks on Steep Fines for Challenging Traffic Tickets

By: Lee

Lee — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:36:43 +0000

Send me an email to goforward@safe-mail.net and I will send you a document that will stop their nonsense. And, no court appearance. Have I seen success using this, yes I have, many times.

By: john

john — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:36:24 +0000

Yeah, another racket they have in Waskum, Texas I like to bring up, when I was going the speed limit and Cpl. Lou Frazier of the Waskum police department alleged that I was going some 77/78 MPH, perhaps because he saw my out of state plate, as I was driving to Ft. Bragg, to kill people that don’t want speed traps in their country, sure made it pretty hard to go to my court date 30 days from the time of the ticket, ensuring that I would have to pay regardless,,,

By: pligg.com

pligg.com — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:49:53 +0000

Indianapolis Tacks on Steep Fines for Challenging Traffic Tickets | The Agitator…

They don’t want you to question authority. Better get used to it….

By: John Wilburn

John Wilburn — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:35:16 +0000

#12 Yizmo Gizmo, #23 qaz, #26 Cynical in CA

Maybe that’s the problem – we’re convinced (some are, at least) that storming the courthouse with a pitchfork, is a losing proposition…

“If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.” …
”And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms…”

Keep in mind, that the people that instigated, and then conducted the American Revolution comprised less than half of the population of the colonies – and they took on the most powerful country on earth – and won (by bankrupting that country)…

Just sayin’…

By: Cynical in CA

Cynical in CA — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:50:21 +0000

#23 | qaz — “All you folks talking about storming the courthouse with pitchforks and fertilizing the Tree of Liberty, hate to break it to you but it is too late.”

While I agree that this course of action is futile presently, I disagree with your timing. It is too soon, not too late. History is a revolving door — it will swing around again soon enough.

By: Cynical in CA

Cynical in CA — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:47:44 +0000

#10 | Michael Chaney — “Good news, Stephanie Lazarus’ preliminary hearing is over and she will stand trial…”

Sorry to piss on your parade Michael, but justice delayed is justice denied. My $0.02 anyways. Hope you’re right.

By: Cynical in CA

Cynical in CA — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:44:59 +0000

Thanks JS, your concern for my health is touching.

I must go look at big boobs immediately.

By: qaz

qaz — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:57:30 +0000

All you folks talking about storming the courthouse with pitchforks and fertilizing the Tree of Liberty, hate to break it to you but it is too late. Attempt to do this and you’ll be outgunned and worm food and you’ll be lucky if any news media even bothers to report it. I don’t know what the solution is, but that ain’t it.

By: Kino

Kino — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:22:03 +0000

Ye old Tree of Liberty is looking scruffy , gonna need some fertilizer soon …Lest it Perish

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:13:31 +0000

Tree.

Rope.

Judge.

Some assembly required.

By: Tsu Dho Nihm

Tsu Dho Nihm — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:31:01 +0000

Oh joy.
I guess someone wants a raise, so they gotta steal the money come up with the funds somehow.

By: Judas Peckerwood

Judas Peckerwood — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:48:37 +0000

Like I needed another reason to avoid Indianapolis.

By: MDGuy

MDGuy — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:48:36 +0000

Who says there’s no due-process anymore? There’s definitely a process! First they drop your trousers, then they drop your drawers, then they bend you over….well I think we all know where it goes from here.

By: Mario

Mario — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:46:11 +0000

[...] who try to game the system by winning default judgments on legitimate tickets when the police officer who wrote it can’t make it into court.

That’s rich! “Game the system?”

When you can’t make it to court, in almost every case that’s just too bad. You’ll have a summary judgement against you.

What’s good for the gander…

By: perlhaqr

perlhaqr — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:44:25 +0000

Pay Up, Human ATM.

By: Bill

Bill — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:42:56 +0000

Dave, I thought about asking if anyone wanted to take odds on which of those would happen, but then I got depressed and had to stop typing.

By: Dave Krueger

Dave Krueger — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:35:39 +0000

#13 Bill

Then the state will either wise up….

The state will never wise up. It doesn’t have to. It’s the state.

By: Bill

Bill — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:31:31 +0000

This is simply another form of plea-bargaining: you are offered a reduced sentence in exchange for pleading guilty. The problem with these policies is that as the punishment you are threatened with if you don’t confess grows larger, and the police retain the latitude to lie and cheat to pressure you into confessing, there is a greater likelihood that you will falsely confess. Since these practices lead to more “convictions” and more revenue for the state, the trend may well accelerate until conventional wisdom is becomes: if you are confronted by the police, your odds are better if you run–or shoot first.

Then the state will either wise up, or hire more cops and buy bigger guns.

By: Yizmo Gizmo

Yizmo Gizmo — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:24:15 +0000

How much would they fine the citizens to storm city hall
with pitchforks?
Just askin’.

By: Highway

Highway — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:11:25 +0000

So when are these government goons just going to send roving gangs of thugs door to door for petty cash shakedowns? I mean, really. Apparently just the lack of revenue to match the amount of money they WANT to spend justifies all sorts of schemes to shakedown people.

Is there any accountability over these tin-star yokels? Oh, yeah, that’s supposed to be the legislatures, who write the laws. Too bad they’re too busy egging on the pocketbook pilferers to get them more money to buy reelection with…