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	<title>Comments on: Document-Swiping Deputy Drama Continues</title>
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		<title>By: Hey Joe, Where You Going With That Gun In Your Hand? &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey Joe, Where You Going With That Gun In Your Hand? &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Radley Balko: It’s gotten so surreal out in Arizona, I’m a little lost in the details. But as I understand it, here’s what’s happened since our last update: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Radley Balko: It’s gotten so surreal out in Arizona, I’m a little lost in the details. But as I understand it, here’s what’s happened since our last update: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to be a policeman. But only in Maricopa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be a policeman. But only in Maricopa.</p>
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		<title>By: "vivus spartacus"</title>
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		<dc:creator>"vivus spartacus"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #73 
&quot;I’m on track to become a prosecutor” 
Great! Now we can All lose sleep over that possibility! 

“Hampering defense counsel’s ability to fully and effectively defend clients constitutes a Constitutional outrage. The system breaks down when the 6th Amendment right to a fair trial loses its value.”

Hampering the ability to Defend What? Right to a What Fair Trial? In case you are merely too clueless to pick up blatant facts made evident in the video, the Incarcerated Dude in the horizontal pin striped suit was NOT on Trial! He was already CONVICTED and his attorney was arguing against the “Consecutive” (as opposed to “Concurrent”) Sentencing! 

ALL written correspondence by any Incarcerated Inmate is Moderated and NOT “privileged”. 

Furthermore, his Own Attorney admitted in open Court that ALL written correspondence from the Inmate had been issued from “Jail Mail” and that her papers had already been supposedly “unstapled” and earlier submitted to the Deputies for Review. The Deputy upon looking at what appeared to be a “hand written” letter / communication by the Inmate, simply called another Deputy over to take such and merely make a Copy of Same (ie DOING his JOB) and returned the original back to the attorney. 

Re: #90 WTH? How clueless can you be? There is absolutely NOTHING even remotely relevant to this Matter dealing with 18 USC 285 

Seriouosly, anyone so compelled to demonstrate that they are merely an IGNORANUS (Clueless and an A**hole) and all of you latent Anarchists posing as “libertarians”, do the rest of us a courtesy, and take a long slow drink from a tall cup of STHU! 

It is better to remain silent and merely thought a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln


We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Benjamin Franklin



Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your
getting, Get understanding. Proverbs 4:7


&quot;vivus spartacus&quot;
All Rights Reserved


It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a
prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty
to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude
is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his
guilt. John Philpot Curran (1750–1817)


Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have
found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be
imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted
with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are
prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
Frederick Douglass, &quot;If There Is No Struggle, There Is No Progress&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #73<br />
&#8220;I’m on track to become a prosecutor”<br />
Great! Now we can All lose sleep over that possibility! </p>
<p>“Hampering defense counsel’s ability to fully and effectively defend clients constitutes a Constitutional outrage. The system breaks down when the 6th Amendment right to a fair trial loses its value.”</p>
<p>Hampering the ability to Defend What? Right to a What Fair Trial? In case you are merely too clueless to pick up blatant facts made evident in the video, the Incarcerated Dude in the horizontal pin striped suit was NOT on Trial! He was already CONVICTED and his attorney was arguing against the “Consecutive” (as opposed to “Concurrent”) Sentencing! </p>
<p>ALL written correspondence by any Incarcerated Inmate is Moderated and NOT “privileged”. </p>
<p>Furthermore, his Own Attorney admitted in open Court that ALL written correspondence from the Inmate had been issued from “Jail Mail” and that her papers had already been supposedly “unstapled” and earlier submitted to the Deputies for Review. The Deputy upon looking at what appeared to be a “hand written” letter / communication by the Inmate, simply called another Deputy over to take such and merely make a Copy of Same (ie DOING his JOB) and returned the original back to the attorney. </p>
<p>Re: #90 WTH? How clueless can you be? There is absolutely NOTHING even remotely relevant to this Matter dealing with 18 USC 285 </p>
<p>Seriouosly, anyone so compelled to demonstrate that they are merely an IGNORANUS (Clueless and an A**hole) and all of you latent Anarchists posing as “libertarians”, do the rest of us a courtesy, and take a long slow drink from a tall cup of STHU! </p>
<p>It is better to remain silent and merely thought a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln</p>
<p>We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.<br />
Benjamin Franklin</p>
<p>Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your<br />
getting, Get understanding. Proverbs 4:7</p>
<p>&#8220;vivus spartacus&#8221;<br />
All Rights Reserved</p>
<p>It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a<br />
prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty<br />
to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude<br />
is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his<br />
guilt. John Philpot Curran (1750–1817)</p>
<p>Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have<br />
found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be<br />
imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted<br />
with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are<br />
prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.<br />
Frederick Douglass, &#8220;If There Is No Struggle, There Is No Progress&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course TJ that won&#039;t apply in this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course TJ that won&#8217;t apply in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Carcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that (at least where I live) public service workers are not allowed to strike.  Calling in sick and then attending a rally is the same as striking.  The deputies that caused the &quot;Brownout&quot; should be held accountable.  As for Stoddard, I think he handled the situation the wrong way.  If he saw statements on the document that raised red flags as he claims, he should have brought it to the attention of the Judge.  He should not have taken the document. He violated attorney-client priveledge just by looking at it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that (at least where I live) public service workers are not allowed to strike.  Calling in sick and then attending a rally is the same as striking.  The deputies that caused the &#8220;Brownout&#8221; should be held accountable.  As for Stoddard, I think he handled the situation the wrong way.  If he saw statements on the document that raised red flags as he claims, he should have brought it to the attention of the Judge.  He should not have taken the document. He violated attorney-client priveledge just by looking at it.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TITLE 18 &gt; PART I &gt; CHAPTER 15 &gt; § 285

§ 285. Taking or using papers relating to claims

Whoever, without authority, takes and carries away from the place where it was filed, deposited, or kept by authority of the United States, any certificate, affidavit, deposition, statement of facts, power of attorney, receipt, voucher, assignment, or other document, record, file, or paper prepared, fitted, or intended to be used or presented to procure the payment of money from or by the United States or any officer, employee, or agent thereof, or the allowance or payment of the whole or any part of any claim, account, or demand against the United States, whether the same has or has not already been so used or presented, and whether such claim, account, or demand, or any part thereof has or has not already been allowed or paid; or

Whoever presents, uses, or attempts to use any such document, record, file, or paper so taken and carried away, to procure the payment of any money from or by the United States, or any officer, employee, or agent thereof, or the allowance or payment of the whole or any part of any claim, account, or demand against the United States—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TITLE 18 &gt; PART I &gt; CHAPTER 15 &gt; § 285</p>
<p>§ 285. Taking or using papers relating to claims</p>
<p>Whoever, without authority, takes and carries away from the place where it was filed, deposited, or kept by authority of the United States, any certificate, affidavit, deposition, statement of facts, power of attorney, receipt, voucher, assignment, or other document, record, file, or paper prepared, fitted, or intended to be used or presented to procure the payment of money from or by the United States or any officer, employee, or agent thereof, or the allowance or payment of the whole or any part of any claim, account, or demand against the United States, whether the same has or has not already been so used or presented, and whether such claim, account, or demand, or any part thereof has or has not already been allowed or paid; or</p>
<p>Whoever presents, uses, or attempts to use any such document, record, file, or paper so taken and carried away, to procure the payment of any money from or by the United States, or any officer, employee, or agent thereof, or the allowance or payment of the whole or any part of any claim, account, or demand against the United States—</p>
<p>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.</p>
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		<title>By: David McElroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>David McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arpaio may just have finally arrived at his Waterloo and put his foot in it!
The deputy&#039;s breach of attorney-client privilege is blatant and on camera with a video for all to see! But Arpaio claims the judge is on a vendetta!
Seeing the judge&#039;s response on tape, I was shocked by lenient and casual she was in addressing Stoddard&#039;s transgression, and rather than quickly dressing down the officer in the courtroom, she admonished the defense attorney to &quot;calm down&quot; when she raised her complaint! Stoddard was barely mentioned, when she should have ordered him taken into custody!
Then Arpaio and his army refuse to book Stoddard in jail after the judge does order him to be incarcerated, and the courthouse goon squad refuses to do their duty or cooperate with the courts. And a mysterious caller makes a bomb threat to the courthouse. I wonder what effort is being made to identify that caller? I&#039;d bet the &quot;bomber&quot; is associated with a badge!
Arpaio&#039;s actions, and those of his deputies, prove that cops don&#039;t believe the law applies to them...even in a courtroom with cameras! I could tell them where to stick their &quot;candlelight vigils&quot;, but I think a federal judge will hoist Arpaio on his own petard! What a retard...a bastard among bastards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arpaio may just have finally arrived at his Waterloo and put his foot in it!<br />
The deputy&#8217;s breach of attorney-client privilege is blatant and on camera with a video for all to see! But Arpaio claims the judge is on a vendetta!<br />
Seeing the judge&#8217;s response on tape, I was shocked by lenient and casual she was in addressing Stoddard&#8217;s transgression, and rather than quickly dressing down the officer in the courtroom, she admonished the defense attorney to &#8220;calm down&#8221; when she raised her complaint! Stoddard was barely mentioned, when she should have ordered him taken into custody!<br />
Then Arpaio and his army refuse to book Stoddard in jail after the judge does order him to be incarcerated, and the courthouse goon squad refuses to do their duty or cooperate with the courts. And a mysterious caller makes a bomb threat to the courthouse. I wonder what effort is being made to identify that caller? I&#8217;d bet the &#8220;bomber&#8221; is associated with a badge!<br />
Arpaio&#8217;s actions, and those of his deputies, prove that cops don&#8217;t believe the law applies to them&#8230;even in a courtroom with cameras! I could tell them where to stick their &#8220;candlelight vigils&#8221;, but I think a federal judge will hoist Arpaio on his own petard! What a retard&#8230;a bastard among bastards!</p>
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		<title>By: BamBam</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#72, right on.  Keeping quiet to collect your paycheck/loaf of bread/gold coin from the king is morally wrong.  To know of wrongs and evil yet keep quiet about it &quot;to get paid/to get yours&quot; is also cowardly -- but this is consistent with the cowardly police, whom I shall remind everyone again are not in the top 20 of most dangerous jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72, right on.  Keeping quiet to collect your paycheck/loaf of bread/gold coin from the king is morally wrong.  To know of wrongs and evil yet keep quiet about it &#8220;to get paid/to get yours&#8221; is also cowardly &#8212; but this is consistent with the cowardly police, whom I shall remind everyone again are not in the top 20 of most dangerous jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: ktc2</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/03/document-swiping-deputy-drama-continues/comment-page-2/#comment-376815</link>
		<dc:creator>ktc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and as for the union despite the fact that I&#039;d been paying dues since day one but they woulnd&#039;t help me because I hadn&#039;t been there long enough. So fuck them too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as for the union despite the fact that I&#8217;d been paying dues since day one but they woulnd&#8217;t help me because I hadn&#8217;t been there long enough. So fuck them too!</p>
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		<title>By: ktc2</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SamK,

I&#039;m with you there man. I worked for about six months for USPS. The management does their best to fire you. It&#039;s like their promotions depend on it. 

I was sitting in my truk having just put mail in a mailbox. I was getting ready to drive to the next one when I noticed someone standing right behind my truck in the rear view mirror (yes, they have them though they go around the side not through the back). I put it in neutral (no park), put the emergency brake on and stood directly at the door to my truck to peer around behind. It was a manager hiding back there and I was fired because I was &quot;out of my vehicle with the engine running&quot;.

Fuck &#039;em finished college, got my IT degree and now I get paid much better to travel around the world fixing IT problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamK,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you there man. I worked for about six months for USPS. The management does their best to fire you. It&#8217;s like their promotions depend on it. </p>
<p>I was sitting in my truk having just put mail in a mailbox. I was getting ready to drive to the next one when I noticed someone standing right behind my truck in the rear view mirror (yes, they have them though they go around the side not through the back). I put it in neutral (no park), put the emergency brake on and stood directly at the door to my truck to peer around behind. It was a manager hiding back there and I was fired because I was &#8220;out of my vehicle with the engine running&#8221;.</p>
<p>Fuck &#8216;em finished college, got my IT degree and now I get paid much better to travel around the world fixing IT problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the issue with unions is that they (and their members) enjoy a protected status and can get away with many things individuals cannot.

A union of people or groups competing for benefits/rules without going to the Fist of the State is fine.  Instead, we have statist unions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the issue with unions is that they (and their members) enjoy a protected status and can get away with many things individuals cannot.</p>
<p>A union of people or groups competing for benefits/rules without going to the Fist of the State is fine.  Instead, we have statist unions.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The  problem here is the  Snowball effect.
All the  guy had to do was  apologize. Five  minutes of time.
For something that was  clearly  a rights  violation.
Now  we have  bomb  threats, sick outs, candlelight vigils, defiance
of  court orders, Federal lawsuit.
Also, where is the cop? What jail? Where&#039;s the mugshot?
Where&#039;s the booking  paper  trail.  
Are they  going to lie about that too?

Call in the  FEDS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  problem here is the  Snowball effect.<br />
All the  guy had to do was  apologize. Five  minutes of time.<br />
For something that was  clearly  a rights  violation.<br />
Now  we have  bomb  threats, sick outs, candlelight vigils, defiance<br />
of  court orders, Federal lawsuit.<br />
Also, where is the cop? What jail? Where&#8217;s the mugshot?<br />
Where&#8217;s the booking  paper  trail.<br />
Are they  going to lie about that too?</p>
<p>Call in the  FEDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a conspiracy alright.  It&#039;s called &quot;the law&quot; I wouldn&#039;t be surpirsed if every judge is in on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a conspiracy alright.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;the law&#8221; I wouldn&#8217;t be surpirsed if every judge is in on it.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: 79.

Like a lot of fractious old married couples: death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 79.</p>
<p>Like a lot of fractious old married couples: death.</p>
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		<title>By: David Chesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Chesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SamK, I was in an engineer&#039;s union once. It didn&#039;t do me much good. The union and the management seemed to enjoy fighting each other, like some old married couples. It&#039;s not clear who starts or who can end such a vicious cycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamK, I was in an engineer&#8217;s union once. It didn&#8217;t do me much good. The union and the management seemed to enjoy fighting each other, like some old married couples. It&#8217;s not clear who starts or who can end such a vicious cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: random guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>random guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who would have thought that a Serbian radical assassinating an Austrian Duke would have lead all of Europe into World War I?

Who knows what will happen because of two deputies stealing a defense attorneys files? 

This is great, its got the momentum going to where this could be a portion of American History unfolding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would have thought that a Serbian radical assassinating an Austrian Duke would have lead all of Europe into World War I?</p>
<p>Who knows what will happen because of two deputies stealing a defense attorneys files? </p>
<p>This is great, its got the momentum going to where this could be a portion of American History unfolding.</p>
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		<title>By: SamK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/03/document-swiping-deputy-drama-continues/comment-page-2/#comment-376803</link>
		<dc:creator>SamK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[* &quot;borrow each other&#039;s cars to stalk you on the job&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* &#8220;borrow each other&#8217;s cars to stalk you on the job&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SamK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/03/document-swiping-deputy-drama-continues/comment-page-2/#comment-376802</link>
		<dc:creator>SamK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eh, I hate unions...but after my experience working for USPS I grudgingly admit that even the crazy ones have a use even as they pile up BS.  Management would follow you around, hide behind bushes, borrow each other&#039;s cars, scream constantly, throw things, fired one fellow for not showing up when he had a heart attack, another for not setting his parking brake hard enough, the list goes on.  I&#039;ve never worked anywhere else that I had my job threatened on a daily basis, and without the union you had nothing going for you.  Of course, the union managed to get a gal that had been fired for opening mail reinstated...twice.  Good with bad, but much as I hate them I hate the management that makes some of them necessary at least as much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, I hate unions&#8230;but after my experience working for USPS I grudgingly admit that even the crazy ones have a use even as they pile up BS.  Management would follow you around, hide behind bushes, borrow each other&#8217;s cars, scream constantly, throw things, fired one fellow for not showing up when he had a heart attack, another for not setting his parking brake hard enough, the list goes on.  I&#8217;ve never worked anywhere else that I had my job threatened on a daily basis, and without the union you had nothing going for you.  Of course, the union managed to get a gal that had been fired for opening mail reinstated&#8230;twice.  Good with bad, but much as I hate them I hate the management that makes some of them necessary at least as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve from ohio</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/03/document-swiping-deputy-drama-continues/comment-page-2/#comment-376801</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve from ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#40- Now, imagine if he&#039;s back to work and arrests somebody, writes a ticket, etc, while he shoud be in the slammer.

Even Arapio coudn&#039;t possiby be stupid enough to have him on the streets]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40- Now, imagine if he&#8217;s back to work and arrests somebody, writes a ticket, etc, while he shoud be in the slammer.</p>
<p>Even Arapio coudn&#8217;t possiby be stupid enough to have him on the streets</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/12/03/document-swiping-deputy-drama-continues/comment-page-2/#comment-376797</link>
		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Where is the “vast majority” of “good cops” we keep hearing about?&quot;

It is a myth, contingent upon defining a &quot;bad cop&quot; as only those that are guilty of the most serious criminal activity and corruption on the job. They constitute probably 10-20% of the police force - the types who fabricate police reports, beat people, steal drugs out of the evidence locker, or commit major crimes on the job.

If you broaden the definition though a &quot;bad cop&quot; is also any who:

- lies on traffic ticket reports to get revenue convictions
- uses his flashers and sirens to run traffic lights to get around rush hour or speed out of convenience
- declines to ticket other cops out of &quot;professional courtesy&quot;
- looks the other way when he sees evidence of police corruption by a colleague

If you include those things - and you should as they plainly meet the definition of corruption in any other job situation - then I&#039;d estimate damn near 90-95% of cops are &quot;bad cops.&quot; Hence the problem we are in...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where is the “vast majority” of “good cops” we keep hearing about?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is a myth, contingent upon defining a &#8220;bad cop&#8221; as only those that are guilty of the most serious criminal activity and corruption on the job. They constitute probably 10-20% of the police force &#8211; the types who fabricate police reports, beat people, steal drugs out of the evidence locker, or commit major crimes on the job.</p>
<p>If you broaden the definition though a &#8220;bad cop&#8221; is also any who:</p>
<p>- lies on traffic ticket reports to get revenue convictions<br />
- uses his flashers and sirens to run traffic lights to get around rush hour or speed out of convenience<br />
- declines to ticket other cops out of &#8220;professional courtesy&#8221;<br />
- looks the other way when he sees evidence of police corruption by a colleague</p>
<p>If you include those things &#8211; and you should as they plainly meet the definition of corruption in any other job situation &#8211; then I&#8217;d estimate damn near 90-95% of cops are &#8220;bad cops.&#8221; Hence the problem we are in&#8230;</p>
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