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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: CumulusBlack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/28/saturday-linksopen-thread-20/comment-page-1/#comment-375950</link>
		<dc:creator>CumulusBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the event is sad, and it&#039;s very likely that the officers murdered were &quot;good&quot; guys, can&#039;t say I didn&#039;t see it coming. Can&#039;t say I don&#039;t see events of greater magnitude occurring in the near future as tensions rise and the economy plummets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the event is sad, and it&#8217;s very likely that the officers murdered were &#8220;good&#8221; guys, can&#8217;t say I didn&#8217;t see it coming. Can&#8217;t say I don&#8217;t see events of greater magnitude occurring in the near future as tensions rise and the economy plummets.</p>
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		<title>By: Windy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops are clueless that they way they treat non-cops is the reason for incidents like this; and the worse the cops get, in their &quot;us and them&quot; attitudes and misconduct, the more often they&#039;re going to encounter this kind of backlash.  

I will say, however, as cops go, the number of allegations of misconduct are fewer in the PNW than almost anywhere else in these united States of America, so it is kind of a surprise the backlash appears to be beginning here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cops are clueless that they way they treat non-cops is the reason for incidents like this; and the worse the cops get, in their &#8220;us and them&#8221; attitudes and misconduct, the more often they&#8217;re going to encounter this kind of backlash.  </p>
<p>I will say, however, as cops go, the number of allegations of misconduct are fewer in the PNW than almost anywhere else in these united States of America, so it is kind of a surprise the backlash appears to be beginning here.</p>
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		<title>By: paranoiastrksdp</title>
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		<dc:creator>paranoiastrksdp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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PARKLAND, Wash. - A gunman walked into a coffee shop and shot and killed four police officers Sunday morning in what sheriff&#039;s officials described as a targeted &quot;execution.&quot;

The officers were sitting in the cafe at a strip mall near the Tacoma suburb of Parkland with their laptop computers, preparing for their day shifts, when a man came in and opened fire, Pierce County Sheriff&#039;s spokesman Ed Troyer said.

The officers were obviously targeted because they were in full uniform, their marked patrol cars were parked outside and no one else was shot at, Troyer said.

&quot;This was more of an execution. He walked in with the mind of shooting police officers,&quot; Troyer said.

It wasn&#039;t immediately known if any of the officers were able to return fire. They were declared dead at the scene.

Troyer said two employees and a few customers were in the Forza Coffee Company shop at the time but no one else was hurt. &quot;As you can imagine they are all traumatized,&quot; he said.

Authorities scoured the area for the gunman, who fled from the coffee shop on foot and may have gotten into a nearby vehicle. The shooting suspect was described as a &quot;scruffy&quot;-faced black man in his 20s or 30s, 5 feet 7 to 5 feet 10 and wearing a black jacket over a gray hooded sweatshirt, and blue jeans.

&quot;We are in the process of searching multiple locations,&quot; Troyer said.

Nearby McChord Air Force Base was put on alert.

No advance threats
The victims were three males and one female, all officers with the Lakewood Police Department southwest of Tacoma, Troyer said.

There were no specific advance threats against the officers, Troyer said.

A $10,000 reward was being offered for information leading to those responsible.

&quot;This is an example of the danger that police officers and deputy sheriffs and state troopers face every day,&quot; Sheriff Paul Pastor said. &quot;The person or people who did this not only harmed us, they harmed the good that we can do in the community.&quot;

There was no indication of any connection with the Halloween night shooting of a Seattle police officer, Troyer said. The suspect in that shooting remains hospitalized.</description>
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<p>PARKLAND, Wash. &#8211; A gunman walked into a coffee shop and shot and killed four police officers Sunday morning in what sheriff&#8217;s officials described as a targeted &#8220;execution.&#8221;</p>
<p>The officers were sitting in the cafe at a strip mall near the Tacoma suburb of Parkland with their laptop computers, preparing for their day shifts, when a man came in and opened fire, Pierce County Sheriff&#8217;s spokesman Ed Troyer said.</p>
<p>The officers were obviously targeted because they were in full uniform, their marked patrol cars were parked outside and no one else was shot at, Troyer said.</p>
<p>&#8220;This was more of an execution. He walked in with the mind of shooting police officers,&#8221; Troyer said.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t immediately known if any of the officers were able to return fire. They were declared dead at the scene.</p>
<p>Troyer said two employees and a few customers were in the Forza Coffee Company shop at the time but no one else was hurt. &#8220;As you can imagine they are all traumatized,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Authorities scoured the area for the gunman, who fled from the coffee shop on foot and may have gotten into a nearby vehicle. The shooting suspect was described as a &#8220;scruffy&#8221;-faced black man in his 20s or 30s, 5 feet 7 to 5 feet 10 and wearing a black jacket over a gray hooded sweatshirt, and blue jeans.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are in the process of searching multiple locations,&#8221; Troyer said.</p>
<p>Nearby McChord Air Force Base was put on alert.</p>
<p>No advance threats<br />
The victims were three males and one female, all officers with the Lakewood Police Department southwest of Tacoma, Troyer said.</p>
<p>There were no specific advance threats against the officers, Troyer said.</p>
<p>A $10,000 reward was being offered for information leading to those responsible.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is an example of the danger that police officers and deputy sheriffs and state troopers face every day,&#8221; Sheriff Paul Pastor said. &#8220;The person or people who did this not only harmed us, they harmed the good that we can do in the community.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was no indication of any connection with the Halloween night shooting of a Seattle police officer, Troyer said. The suspect in that shooting remains hospitalized.</p>
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		<title>By: Cereal Selection Flow Chart&#160;&#124;&#160;LightBlogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cereal Selection Flow Chart&#160;&#124;&#160;LightBlogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I just wasted an hour of our lives literally ROTFL&#039;ing at the Amazon comments.  Actual tears were shed.  Thanks for that !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I just wasted an hour of our lives literally ROTFL&#8217;ing at the Amazon comments.  Actual tears were shed.  Thanks for that !</p>
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		<title>By: ShelbyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShelbyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny comments on the laptop desk, although it&#039;s pretty clear it&#039;s not for use while driving.  The first 90-degree turn and you dump your computer.</description>
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		<title>By: Toastrider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toastrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ll wait for the Book of Eli to come out for my post-apocalypse fix.

I read &#039;The Road&#039; and found it to be the most depressing thing I&#039;d ever read. I can&#039;t imagine wanting to watch it as a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ll wait for the Book of Eli to come out for my post-apocalypse fix.</p>
<p>I read &#8216;The Road&#8217; and found it to be the most depressing thing I&#8217;d ever read. I can&#8217;t imagine wanting to watch it as a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Dubai -
Maybe I&#039;m uneducated, but I believe Dubai is a religion-run country, which violates my ruels of tourism.  I&#039;d rather go to a communist country where the first rule of behavior is clear (obey the Dear Leader/don&#039;t criticize the government) than a religiously-run country, where the rules are weird.
Plus, I&#039;m pregant, and seeing that I need to provide a marriage certificate or leave the country before I can give birth is reason #1 for not going there.  Heck if I know where my 13-year old marriage certificate is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Dubai -<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m uneducated, but I believe Dubai is a religion-run country, which violates my ruels of tourism.  I&#8217;d rather go to a communist country where the first rule of behavior is clear (obey the Dear Leader/don&#8217;t criticize the government) than a religiously-run country, where the rules are weird.<br />
Plus, I&#8217;m pregant, and seeing that I need to provide a marriage certificate or leave the country before I can give birth is reason #1 for not going there.  Heck if I know where my 13-year old marriage certificate is.</p>
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		<title>By: World&#8217;s Strangest &#124; Cereal Selection Flow Chart</title>
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		<dc:creator>World&#8217;s Strangest &#124; Cereal Selection Flow Chart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Windy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/28/saturday-linksopen-thread-20/comment-page-1/#comment-375920</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, I still drink alcohol, just not to the point of drunkenness.</description>
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		<title>By: Windy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/28/saturday-linksopen-thread-20/comment-page-1/#comment-375919</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  I&#039;ve only been drunk 4 times in my life (and all were before I turned 22, I&#039;m 65 now), but I love Lucky Charms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  I&#8217;ve only been drunk 4 times in my life (and all were before I turned 22, I&#8217;m 65 now), but I love Lucky Charms.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I loved No Country for Old Men (both the book and movie), I really didn&#039;t enjoy reading The Road, for several reasons. I don&#039;t plan to see the movie.  There just doesn&#039;t seem to be anything to it. I know it&#039;s supposed to be about the father&#039;s love, but i didn&#039;t even get that out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I loved No Country for Old Men (both the book and movie), I really didn&#8217;t enjoy reading The Road, for several reasons. I don&#8217;t plan to see the movie.  There just doesn&#8217;t seem to be anything to it. I know it&#8217;s supposed to be about the father&#8217;s love, but i didn&#8217;t even get that out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the comments left in reply to customer reviews of the Steering Wheel Desk are more entertaining than the reviews themselves. There are some funny customer submitted images as well.

Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mises.org/archives/006948.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;back in 2007&lt;/a&gt;, Mark Thornton pointed to Burj Dubai as another one of the warning signs saying the &lt;em&gt;&quot;Skyscraper Index predicts economic depression and/or a stock market collapse to occur prior to the completion of the skyscraper&quot;&lt;/em&gt;.

Thornton wrote an article on the Skyscraper Index that appeared in the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics in 2005, titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://mises.org/story/3038&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skyscrapers and Business Cycles&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the comments left in reply to customer reviews of the Steering Wheel Desk are more entertaining than the reviews themselves. There are some funny customer submitted images as well.</p>
<p>Also, <a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/006948.asp" rel="nofollow">back in 2007</a>, Mark Thornton pointed to Burj Dubai as another one of the warning signs saying the <em>&#8220;Skyscraper Index predicts economic depression and/or a stock market collapse to occur prior to the completion of the skyscraper&#8221;</em>.</p>
<p>Thornton wrote an article on the Skyscraper Index that appeared in the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics in 2005, titled <a href="http://mises.org/story/3038" rel="nofollow">Skyscrapers and Business Cycles</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hummel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An early peak inside the Burj Dubai, which is supposed to open in January&quot; ... maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An early peak inside the Burj Dubai, which is supposed to open in January&#8221; &#8230; maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/28/saturday-linksopen-thread-20/comment-page-1/#comment-375898</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that BP doesn&#039;t become popular with cops.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve in Clearwater</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/28/saturday-linksopen-thread-20/comment-page-1/#comment-375889</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Clearwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy cow...I frequently stop at that BP for gasoline as it&#039;s just a few blocks from the Unity church I visit on Sunday mornings.  But I&#039;ve never used the drive thru or noticed that hound.  Will try and surprise my wife in next few weeks by pulling through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy cow&#8230;I frequently stop at that BP for gasoline as it&#8217;s just a few blocks from the Unity church I visit on Sunday mornings.  But I&#8217;ve never used the drive thru or noticed that hound.  Will try and surprise my wife in next few weeks by pulling through.</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
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		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;An early peak inside the Burj Dubai, which is supposed to open in January.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Methinks Dubai is experiencing a tiny bit of buyers remorse regarding their unique development plans.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13882537&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Troubles in Dubai&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;• Big spending: In recent years, Dubai has expanded with ambitious, eye-catching projects such as its palm-shaped islands and the world&#039;s tallest skyscraper in hopes of becoming tourist- friendly. In the process, the state-backed networks nicknamed Dubai Inc. have racked up $80 billion in red ink.

• Debt default: Dubai&#039;s main investment arm, Dubai World, revealed this week that it was seeking at least a six-month delay on repaying its $60 billion debt. Credit agencies responded by slashing debt ratings on Dubai&#039;s state companies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>An early peak inside the Burj Dubai, which is supposed to open in January.</p></blockquote>
<p>Methinks Dubai is experiencing a tiny bit of buyers remorse regarding their unique development plans.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13882537" rel="nofollow"><b>Troubles in Dubai</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>• Big spending: In recent years, Dubai has expanded with ambitious, eye-catching projects such as its palm-shaped islands and the world&#8217;s tallest skyscraper in hopes of becoming tourist- friendly. In the process, the state-backed networks nicknamed Dubai Inc. have racked up $80 billion in red ink.</p>
<p>• Debt default: Dubai&#8217;s main investment arm, Dubai World, revealed this week that it was seeking at least a six-month delay on repaying its $60 billion debt. Credit agencies responded by slashing debt ratings on Dubai&#8217;s state companies.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burj Dubai: About to become the tallest slum in the world if I&#039;m reading the financial tea leaves correctly.</description>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was driving down the interstate at 60 mph &amp; was passed by a car &amp; the driver was playing the guitar.</description>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link #1...good to know that the roads will be a little bit more dangerous after the holidays.</description>
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