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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Big Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-2/#comment-375739</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yizmo said: &quot;If you’ve ever been grilled by govt goons you know FEAR is a big tactic. Sitting there silent is not realistic.&quot;

So, ...
(1)  &lt;b&gt;Never go the police station when called.&lt;/b&gt;  If they haven&#039;t already arrested you, it&#039;s because they have nothing.  Don&#039;t give them the evidence they don&#039;t have.  
(2)  Have your lawyer call them and ask why they want to speak to you.  And then have him tell them &lt;b&gt;you&#039;ll only appear with him or her at your side and you&#039;ll say nothing&lt;/b&gt;. 
(3)  They&#039;ll quickly lose interest in you.  There are easier ways to build their arrest stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yizmo said: &#8220;If you’ve ever been grilled by govt goons you know FEAR is a big tactic. Sitting there silent is not realistic.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, &#8230;<br />
(1)  <b>Never go the police station when called.</b>  If they haven&#8217;t already arrested you, it&#8217;s because they have nothing.  Don&#8217;t give them the evidence they don&#8217;t have.<br />
(2)  Have your lawyer call them and ask why they want to speak to you.  And then have him tell them <b>you&#8217;ll only appear with him or her at your side and you&#8217;ll say nothing</b>.<br />
(3)  They&#8217;ll quickly lose interest in you.  There are easier ways to build their arrest stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-2/#comment-375738</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More economic &quot;injustice&quot;.  The fine is less than $300 and (&lt;b&gt;at this moment&lt;/b&gt;) there are no serious collateral consequences to a misdemeanor conviction of underage drinking.  

But what, however, will he do in 5 years when Senator Lautenberg gets a brain-dead US Senate to pass a lifetime ban on owning a car for those with such a prior conviction.  It won&#039;t be an ex post facto law in the eyes of the federal courts but he&#039;s screwed.  

He should have paid a lawyer $500 and beaten the charge.  

But, of course, he forgot the FIRST LAW OF CIVILIZATION.  Never talk to the police.  YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT AND TO REFUSE TO CONSENT TO ANY SEARCHES.  Always do so until you can speak to a lawyer.  There is NO upside to talking or consenting.  Be glad you don&#039;t live in the United Kingdom (remember now why we fought the war of 1775?) or Canada.

Once again, children, &quot;I have nothing to say until I speak to MY lawyer and I do not consent to any search of my person or my property.&quot;  Now, &quot;Am I free to leave?&quot;  If so, GO.  You have absolutely no obligation to cooperate with the police.  They are NOT your friend.

As prior posters have made crystal clear, the state had NO evidence whatsoever until the young man opened HIS MOUTH and gave it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More economic &#8220;injustice&#8221;.  The fine is less than $300 and (<b>at this moment</b>) there are no serious collateral consequences to a misdemeanor conviction of underage drinking.  </p>
<p>But what, however, will he do in 5 years when Senator Lautenberg gets a brain-dead US Senate to pass a lifetime ban on owning a car for those with such a prior conviction.  It won&#8217;t be an ex post facto law in the eyes of the federal courts but he&#8217;s screwed.  </p>
<p>He should have paid a lawyer $500 and beaten the charge.  </p>
<p>But, of course, he forgot the FIRST LAW OF CIVILIZATION.  Never talk to the police.  YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT AND TO REFUSE TO CONSENT TO ANY SEARCHES.  Always do so until you can speak to a lawyer.  There is NO upside to talking or consenting.  Be glad you don&#8217;t live in the United Kingdom (remember now why we fought the war of 1775?) or Canada.</p>
<p>Once again, children, &#8220;I have nothing to say until I speak to MY lawyer and I do not consent to any search of my person or my property.&#8221;  Now, &#8220;Am I free to leave?&#8221;  If so, GO.  You have absolutely no obligation to cooperate with the police.  They are NOT your friend.</p>
<p>As prior posters have made crystal clear, the state had NO evidence whatsoever until the young man opened HIS MOUTH and gave it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375662</link>
		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are just Gestapo tactics. If he doesn’t confess, they don’t have anything. No prosecutor would bring this to trial for a $227 fine. The math doesn’t add up, and they know can’t prove up their case (based on the rules of evidence). The 5th amendment exists for a reason people, use it!


I agree with this post, above. Why did  he  confess?


&quot;I cannot stress it enough. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER talk to the police.&quot;
Well, technically saying &quot;I have nothing to say&quot; is talking to them.
If you&#039;ve  ever been  grilled by govt goons you  know FEAR is  a big
tactic. Sitting there  silent is not realistic . Listen to Steve Bierfeldt&#039;s TSA  encounter  to get a feel for  how to play it  right, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are just Gestapo tactics. If he doesn’t confess, they don’t have anything. No prosecutor would bring this to trial for a $227 fine. The math doesn’t add up, and they know can’t prove up their case (based on the rules of evidence). The 5th amendment exists for a reason people, use it!</p>
<p>I agree with this post, above. Why did  he  confess?</p>
<p>&#8220;I cannot stress it enough. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER talk to the police.&#8221;<br />
Well, technically saying &#8220;I have nothing to say&#8221; is talking to them.<br />
If you&#8217;ve  ever been  grilled by govt goons you  know FEAR is  a big<br />
tactic. Sitting there  silent is not realistic . Listen to Steve Bierfeldt&#8217;s TSA  encounter  to get a feel for  how to play it  right, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripper</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a fishing expedition, you cast out a few lines and see if you get any bites.

It costs almost nothing for the cops, yet how many kids paid the $227 fine because they were nervous, scared, confused, etc...?

NEVER talk to the cops, even if they say you&#039;re not being charged, they could certainly charge you based on what you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fishing expedition, you cast out a few lines and see if you get any bites.</p>
<p>It costs almost nothing for the cops, yet how many kids paid the $227 fine because they were nervous, scared, confused, etc&#8230;?</p>
<p>NEVER talk to the cops, even if they say you&#8217;re not being charged, they could certainly charge you based on what you say.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how accurate Godwin&#039;s law really is.  Yes, asking students to come to the police station to answer questions about pictures of said students drinking under age is exactly like the Gestapo.  It&#039;s eerily similar, in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how accurate Godwin&#8217;s law really is.  Yes, asking students to come to the police station to answer questions about pictures of said students drinking under age is exactly like the Gestapo.  It&#8217;s eerily similar, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: H4</title>
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		<dc:creator>H4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are just Gestapo tactics.  If he doesn&#039;t confess, they don&#039;t have anything.  No prosecutor would bring this to trial for a $227 fine.  The math doesn&#039;t add up, and they know can&#039;t prove up their case (based on the rules of evidence).  The 5th amendment exists for a reason people, use it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are just Gestapo tactics.  If he doesn&#8217;t confess, they don&#8217;t have anything.  No prosecutor would bring this to trial for a $227 fine.  The math doesn&#8217;t add up, and they know can&#8217;t prove up their case (based on the rules of evidence).  The 5th amendment exists for a reason people, use it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People!  We are talking alcohol here.  You all know that when it comes to an alcohol related offense, your rights get tossed out the window.  The kid was a moron for posting the picture in the first place.  Facebook is a public website, posting a picture there is the same as putting it on a billboard.  Personally I am 100% against the 21 drinking age, but until enough people apply enough pressure to their State Congresscritters, I&#039;m afraid we are stuck with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People!  We are talking alcohol here.  You all know that when it comes to an alcohol related offense, your rights get tossed out the window.  The kid was a moron for posting the picture in the first place.  Facebook is a public website, posting a picture there is the same as putting it on a billboard.  Personally I am 100% against the 21 drinking age, but until enough people apply enough pressure to their State Congresscritters, I&#8217;m afraid we are stuck with it.</p>
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		<title>By: nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375646</link>
		<dc:creator>nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening. To &#039;protect&#039; kids, police give them arrest records and prosecutors and judges give them convictions. And in some cases, while they&#039;re busy &#039;protecting&#039; them, the objects of their concern &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are killed&lt;/a&gt; by those who so loudly proclaim they&#039;re doing it &#039;all for the cheel-drin&#039;.

The late social critic Philip Wylie warned us long ago about allowing for creeping infantilization of society, courtesy of &#039;Momism&#039;, and the effects that it would have on this society seem to have been borne out, as we have the Gub&#039;mint trying to &#039;protect us&#039; from ourselves, i.e. the DrugWar. 

If more so-called parents were to sit their kids down and tell &#039;em the facts of life as my Marine Da did for us kids, telling us that if we were going to experiment with alcohol and tobacco, do it at home and not bring shame to the family, there&#039;d be less of this fascistic crap where police pull this kind of stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening. To &#8216;protect&#8217; kids, police give them arrest records and prosecutors and judges give them convictions. And in some cases, while they&#8217;re busy &#8216;protecting&#8217; them, the objects of their concern <a href="http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/" rel="nofollow">are killed</a> by those who so loudly proclaim they&#8217;re doing it &#8216;all for the cheel-drin&#8217;.</p>
<p>The late social critic Philip Wylie warned us long ago about allowing for creeping infantilization of society, courtesy of &#8216;Momism&#8217;, and the effects that it would have on this society seem to have been borne out, as we have the Gub&#8217;mint trying to &#8216;protect us&#8217; from ourselves, i.e. the DrugWar. </p>
<p>If more so-called parents were to sit their kids down and tell &#8216;em the facts of life as my Marine Da did for us kids, telling us that if we were going to experiment with alcohol and tobacco, do it at home and not bring shame to the family, there&#8217;d be less of this fascistic crap where police pull this kind of stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 Too late, we already have contempt for the police and with good reason.

#42 Which is why we need to eliminate the immunity privilege for DAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 Too late, we already have contempt for the police and with good reason.</p>
<p>#42 Which is why we need to eliminate the immunity privilege for DAs.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Dread</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375633</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade Dread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And seriously kids, don&#039;t post this crap online. Even if the cops don&#039;t see it, a prospective employer might. It&#039;s just wise behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And seriously kids, don&#8217;t post this crap online. Even if the cops don&#8217;t see it, a prospective employer might. It&#8217;s just wise behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Dread</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375632</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade Dread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would have taken it to trial.&quot;

And the D.A., if (s)he were feeling dickish, would probably throw in five to ten more charges just to see what would stick and get you sentenced to a lot more than a 200 dollar fine to punish you for exercising your constitutional right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would have taken it to trial.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the D.A., if (s)he were feeling dickish, would probably throw in five to ten more charges just to see what would stick and get you sentenced to a lot more than a 200 dollar fine to punish you for exercising your constitutional right.</p>
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		<title>By: ClassAction</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375631</link>
		<dc:creator>ClassAction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37

While the picture would be subject to some pretty minimal authentication, a picture is not hearsay.</description>
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<p>While the picture would be subject to some pretty minimal authentication, a picture is not hearsay.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s postings like this that I use as little learnings for my children.  Just sent this to my oldest with a note that he might want to beware of any &quot;friends&quot; and pass the word around.  Enough people get the message and this little trick may not work long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s postings like this that I use as little learnings for my children.  Just sent this to my oldest with a note that he might want to beware of any &#8220;friends&#8221; and pass the word around.  Enough people get the message and this little trick may not work long.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is too bad that he didn&#039;t hire a lawyer to fight this.
As for the police, they could use a round of furloughs and lay-offs.  Clearly they have too much time and money - unacceptable in a depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too bad that he didn&#8217;t hire a lawyer to fight this.<br />
As for the police, they could use a round of furloughs and lay-offs.  Clearly they have too much time and money &#8211; unacceptable in a depression.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cornellian: How is a picture hearsay?  It&#039;s not a statement at all.  The problem of authentication is a real one, but that&#039;s not a hearsay problem.  Photographs aren&#039;t even dealt with under Article VIII of the FRE, they are under part X.  &lt;i&gt;See, e.g.&lt;/i&gt; FRE 1001(2) &amp; (3).

It would be interesting to know whether any court has dealt with the authentication issue in the context of Facebook.  Were I attempting to get a picture like that introduced, I would look at the data Facebook gives about it, such as date of upload and any meta-data (names, locations, times).  If it is the defendant&#039;s account, and he has dominion and control over the account, then those are statements by a party opponent, which are not hearsay under FRE 801, and he would have to either testify to rebut my evidence (and thereby waive his Fifth Amendment right) or just let my interpretation stand.  I don&#039;t know whether I would win, but it&#039;s not just a fast and loose argument and it could well be a persuasive one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cornellian: How is a picture hearsay?  It&#8217;s not a statement at all.  The problem of authentication is a real one, but that&#8217;s not a hearsay problem.  Photographs aren&#8217;t even dealt with under Article VIII of the FRE, they are under part X.  <i>See, e.g.</i> FRE 1001(2) &amp; (3).</p>
<p>It would be interesting to know whether any court has dealt with the authentication issue in the context of Facebook.  Were I attempting to get a picture like that introduced, I would look at the data Facebook gives about it, such as date of upload and any meta-data (names, locations, times).  If it is the defendant&#8217;s account, and he has dominion and control over the account, then those are statements by a party opponent, which are not hearsay under FRE 801, and he would have to either testify to rebut my evidence (and thereby waive his Fifth Amendment right) or just let my interpretation stand.  I don&#8217;t know whether I would win, but it&#8217;s not just a fast and loose argument and it could well be a persuasive one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornellian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the picture alone could have convicted him.  How could the prosecutor have got the picture into evidence?  It&#039;s hearsay and not self-authenticating and the kid can&#039;t be forced to testify.  Absent the testimony of the photographer or at least someone else who was also present and can authenticate the photograph I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s admissible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the picture alone could have convicted him.  How could the prosecutor have got the picture into evidence?  It&#8217;s hearsay and not self-authenticating and the kid can&#8217;t be forced to testify.  Absent the testimony of the photographer or at least someone else who was also present and can authenticate the photograph I don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s admissible.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Posting public pictures of law-breaking signals to others that the behavior is acceptable and easy to get away with.&quot;

Far, far too many people can&#039;t tell the difference between a genuine crime involving wronging another -- causing demonstrable damage to an identifiable victim -- and an act that&#039;s labeled illegal but isn&#039;t wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Posting public pictures of law-breaking signals to others that the behavior is acceptable and easy to get away with.&#8221;</p>
<p>Far, far too many people can&#8217;t tell the difference between a genuine crime involving wronging another &#8212; causing demonstrable damage to an identifiable victim &#8212; and an act that&#8217;s labeled illegal but isn&#8217;t wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: BamBam</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you make no statements, it is awful hard for a cop to flesh out a report that says you admitted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wrong.  It makes no difference whether you say something or say nothing, as a cop can make up anything they want, knowing that their &quot;word&quot; has more weight than their victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you make no statements, it is awful hard for a cop to flesh out a report that says you admitted.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wrong.  It makes no difference whether you say something or say nothing, as a cop can make up anything they want, knowing that their &#8220;word&#8221; has more weight than their victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375619</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is almost impossible to be convicted of any crime based solely on the contents of a online digital image without other corroborating evidence.

How many different ways could this have gotten tossed out?

Is there any proof it was beer?
If there any proof it was alcoholic beer?
Is there any proof he actually consumed the beer?
Is there any proof he consumed the beer in that jurisdiction?
Is there any proof that he consumed the beer within the statues of limitations?
Is the image real? Has it been altered in any way? Who took it? Can they authenticate it?

Talking to the police without any representation is crazy. The moment you talk to them, anything you say, or anything they claim you say can be used against you. If it is your word against theirs, you will lose.

Until they actually charge you, don&#039;t cooperate... period. 

Did they ask you to come in to answer a few questions? Just Say No. 

They ask for you to clear up a few things? Just Say No.

They want you to come in without telling you why? Just Say No</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is almost impossible to be convicted of any crime based solely on the contents of a online digital image without other corroborating evidence.</p>
<p>How many different ways could this have gotten tossed out?</p>
<p>Is there any proof it was beer?<br />
If there any proof it was alcoholic beer?<br />
Is there any proof he actually consumed the beer?<br />
Is there any proof he consumed the beer in that jurisdiction?<br />
Is there any proof that he consumed the beer within the statues of limitations?<br />
Is the image real? Has it been altered in any way? Who took it? Can they authenticate it?</p>
<p>Talking to the police without any representation is crazy. The moment you talk to them, anything you say, or anything they claim you say can be used against you. If it is your word against theirs, you will lose.</p>
<p>Until they actually charge you, don&#8217;t cooperate&#8230; period. </p>
<p>Did they ask you to come in to answer a few questions? Just Say No. </p>
<p>They ask for you to clear up a few things? Just Say No.</p>
<p>They want you to come in without telling you why? Just Say No</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/11/24/big-friender/comment-page-1/#comment-375618</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go, law enforcement!  Lets enforce stupid laws against college students by friending them on facebook.  When the college students become influential members of society, will have nothing but utter contempt for the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, law enforcement!  Lets enforce stupid laws against college students by friending them on facebook.  When the college students become influential members of society, will have nothing but utter contempt for the cops.</p>
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