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Dog Killed, Children Injured in Chicago Police Raid
Saturday, September 5th, 2009When the police shot and killed the pit bull, two bullets ricocheted, striking the kids.
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this is another example of these officers ‘putting their lives on the line’ for us EVERY DAY. one of those ricocheting bullets could’ve easily struck and killed one of our hard-working public servants- I, for one, am grateful those ragamuffin brats were there to absorb the hits!
“One offender was taken into custody, and a weapon was recovered”
(How much do you want to bet it was a kitchen knife?)
“Deering District Tactical Officers were serving a search warrant … when they were confronted by a Pit Bull. An officer discharged his weapon, “fatally wounding the animal,”
(Define “confronted.” Did he walk into the room? Did he bark? Did he growl? Did he bite? Was he doing what dogs do, when “confronted” by intruders (defending his home)? It sounds to me like the dog was doing his job, was certainly NOT the subject of the warrant, and was murdered for defending his family…)
“While police fired rounds to “destroy the animal,” some bullets ricocheted and struck two children,”
(“Destroy the animal?” How many times do you need to kill (murder) an innocent animal? Aren’t there laws prohibiting the discharge of firearms in residential areas, unless defending oneself from lethal force? How many people die each year, from dog attacks? Aren’t there dire consequences for discharging (or in some cases carrying) firearms in close proximity to children? WHY AREN’T POLICE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD AS THE REST OF US?)
“One offender was taken into custody, but no charges have been filed, as of 5:15 a.m.”
(They’ve only had 5 hours to figure out what the charges are, to justify wounding two children, and still maintain their “hero” status…)
(The “investigation” into this matter shouldn’t take more than 18 months or so, and the results will be withheld from the public…)
I need to learn never to read the comments to these articles.
Former Czechoslovakian bites 13-year-old girl at soccer match
Besides the obvious police state tactics and 4th amendment intrusions, charleswt gives another great reason we should be comfortable with police dogs in our schools!
Then you don’t want to read the comments here.
Why worry? This is just another “isolated incident.” It won’t happen again. Promise.
I hate to be pedantic, but if that K9 is only 18 months old, there’s no way it’s from Czechoslovakia; it’s either from Slovakia or The Czech Republic.
(Not directed at you, CharlesWT, but at the newspaper)
Why cant the cops “think of the children”?.
I guess the dog-shooting impulse is just too strong. They would be willing to take a ricochet hit themselves in order to kill a dog.
John Wilburn “WHY AREN’T POLICE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD AS THE REST OF US?”
Because they are above the law. You can thank our gutless politicians and media for that too.
I’m not letting the public off the hook on this. Far too many citizens are willing to trade freedom and the rule of law for the illusion of security. Your neighbors are complicit in all of this insanity.
J sub D Good point! I totally agree. At this point I don’t know how the public can change it though.
Um, how many bullets are “some”?
The text of the article makes it sound like they fired the usual 30 rounds and they aren’t sure how many bullets stayed in the dog and how many were bouncing around the apartment clipping children.
J Sub D & JS
“Appearance is all, my son…”
In other words, the police wish to appear as the, “selfless defenders of the soiled masses” (protecting us from ourselves), or “heroes.”
The most effective way to get them back under control, is for the news media to report, in detail, on every indiscretion of the police, that would be considered criminal behavior, if committed by a private citizen…
This is, of course, what the authors intended, when they enacted the First Amendment…
This would serve to reminding the police, that since they work for, and are supplied and paid by, the taxpayers, they are indeed and in fact accountable to the taxpayers, as well as subject to the consequences of their actions…
Wow! You you bunch of ingrateful bastards! How dare you! Don’t you know these cops put their lives on the line everyday? These are RARE Occurences. All this shit you see in blogs is just that–shit—lying tripe. People like Radley Balko are a menace to our society. Encouraging free thought and such. Pick up a bible, read it and kill for your god.
@MacGregory
The scary thing is I read blogs that pretty much say what you just did, and mean it. I try to read far left and right blogs (as well as everything in between) to get a well rounded view and keep up on what the real nutters are saying. You would be surprised (well, your reading this blog so probably not) just how many bat shit people out there basically agree 100% with what you said, sincerely agree.
David, I have some friends in a large Baptist church that totally prove what you just wrote. They will justify any encroachment on freedom because it’s “preserving our freedom.” WTF??? lol How do I even answer that?
@MacGregory:
To echo David’s response below yours…I honestly wasn’t catching the sarcasm until the last line, and not because I can’t discern e-sarcasm from e-seriousness, but because there’s too many idiots out there willing to parrot off those exact talking points. Former friends of mine would flip out when I’d dare suggest that Mumia shouldn’t be sitting on death row right now. I’d think, “guys, I know we’re in South Philly, within walking distance of Geno’s, but fuck, guys…that should just make us hate cops a little more.”
NEW YORK, Sept. 5 (UPI) — The New York parents of an 11-month-old and a 5-year-old were arrested for allegedly photographing the boys with guns, authorities said.
Angela Haynes, 24, and Jesse Kendall, 27, of the New York borough of Queens, “thought it would be funny to take the photos with the kids and the guns,” police said in court records.
The couple were arrested after Haynes e-mailed the photos to friends and relatives and one of the recipients contacted the Administration for Children’s Services, The New York Post reported Saturday.
Haynes and Kendall were charged with endangering the welfare of a child, criminal possession of a weapon and possession of marijuana, police said.
Police: Kids photographed with guns
If you can’t outrun them, shoot them, but try not to shoot the six year old.
WTF?
@CharlesWT:
That’s fucked up.
What do most newspaper style books have to say about capitalizing dog breed names? The capitalized “Pit Bull” in the original Chicago Sun Times story looks kind of strangely German.
@CharlesWT
Wow, that story fucking pisses me off. The paper is praising him because he wasn’t reckless – for once. That’s how low our standards for police are.
The headline is; “Girl saved during Brooklyn police chase.” Yeah, she was “saved” by the cop, from himself. If I put a gun to your head and say I’m going to kill you, then decide not to, did I just save your life? Of course not. But if I’m wearing blue I’ll get a fucking headline over it.
Oh, and don’t worry, the cop just had his friend shoot the guy in the back. So there was still cowardly, unnecessary use of lethal force in the story. A happy ending!
#23,
Just think how many lives you and I save everyday. I mean, how many thousands of folks have we not recklessly killed during the course of our lives? We’re heroes, man! Heroes!
in the last story- the cop may have been in the right. the guy is allegedly a (armed?) robber and they were in pursuit. this is what cops are supposed to be doing, in my eyes…
we yell about cops not showing restraint when apprehending people and this guy did show restraint. I’ll sit on the fence on this one until I know more.
the kids photographed with guns is a mess all the way through… the govt WAY overstepped its bounds, but if I had (dumb!) friends who forwarded some of my twisted emails to the govt, I’d be on the war path!
The house was used to house narcotics. A shot gun was recovered as well as a large amout of cocaine and cannabis. We don’t just walk into houses ans start shooting dogs you morons. The kids were hit by fragments of the animals skull, not by ricocheting bullets. Also, charges are filed as soon as possible. If you idiots had any clue how the law worked you’d know that we have to contact the states attorney for all felony charges. Do you really think that they’re awake at 2 and 3 in the morning. These things take time. Don’t comment unless you have a slight clue what you’re talking about.
You’re new here, aren’t you?
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I work in the ER where those 2 girls were brought. They were not graze wounds. The girls had bullet fragments in them.
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voltairine — 9/6/2009 4:13 AM CDT on suntimes.com
just read voltairine’s comment in full. The 11 y.o. girl was covered in tattoos that her father had given her, and of course drugs were in the house (“dope” from voltairine’s account, whatever that means). The parents were obviously not too concerned with their kid’s well being, which is just about as much a shame as the trigger happy cops here. This seems to be a case where the finger pointing can go both ways. Still, the parents did not pull a trigger and put bullet fragments into their children. The kids were in a bad situation to begin with. It’s too bad that it’s been made worse for the moment.
#26 | Dave
dave, don’t be a trolling moron. I’ve been on 15,000+ 911 calls, hostage situations, etc. cops aren’t fighting the noble fight anymore- it’s all about revenue generation. they’re either writing bullshit traffic tickets or bullshit drug busts to obtain federal grants or asset forfeiture seizures. the abuses of power are so massive… cops don’t see it because they look out for each other. check out LEAP and read radley’s paramilitarization of police report and then see if you think posters skeptical of police actions are morons.
I’ve seen the bullshit with my own eyes.
No one has the right to question our actions until they have walked through a door, knowing that death could be waiting on the other side. Keep living in your liberal dream world where everyone is just misunderstood and deserves help from everyone else. The fact is that some people are evil and don’t deserve to walk among us. You people who monday morning quarterback our split second decisions should be ashamed of yourselves. We can’t go home and sleep on it and decide what to do. It has to be instantaneous or people can die. You’re the first ones to call for help when you’re in trouble. If you only knew the things that we see and deal with. The things that don’t go on the news because the general public won’t be able sleep if they saw it. I thought I knew it all. After my first week on the street, I realized that I knew less than nothing. These people are predators and people like you are the sheep. You should be thankful that there are 13000 shepards out there on your behalf. How dare you question the manner in which we provide your safety. Just say thank you for once and be happy that we’re there. Just imagine how long you would last if we were’t.
Isn’t that the speech from “A Few Good Men?”
I’m still not really sure whether Dave is an intentional parody or whether he’s actually serious.
There’s a certain document that says otherwise. It’s called The Bill of Rights. If cops paid a little more attention to it, we taxpayers wouldn’t have to foot the bill for your abuses.
Fuck you.
Maybe Kathryn Johnson can come here and personally thank you. Oops, she can’t do that because she was shot by cops, who then planted drugs in her house in order to justify their act of homicide.
Again, fuck you. Fuck you in your fucking ear.
Cornelian (#33),
I should have thought about that before I responded. I need more coffee…
the old ‘you’re the sheep and we’re the shepherd’ speech… that’s in the same handbook as ‘never write another cop a ticket’ and ‘the citizens are always wrong’.
stealing from joe pesci… ‘…everything this guy said is bullshit…’
I’m trying to figure out if Dave from #16 is the same Dave from #26 and 31. If so I’m pretty sure he’s being sarcastic. If not, well to put it nicely, trolling seems to be the word I’m looking for. Really really heavy ex-military sounding trolling.
plus, calling us ‘liberals’!!!! that’s the funniest of all the funny shit.
The “shepard” part is from Pulp Fiction and “freedom” part is from A few good men. Way to get all upset, people. You guys are way too easily riled. But, serioiusly, I was working during the search warrant and I’m not saying that we always do everything right. We just try to get home to our families safely. If that means taking out a dog, then so be it. The kids shouldn’t have been in that house in the first place. I wouldn’t even allow my dog to live that house of shit. Most of us chose this profession to make a difference and help some people. We didn’t know how thankless is was and how much the media would spin things in favor of the wicked. That’s just my honest opinion. Did you ever wonder why it’s always ” an innocent kid caught in the crossfire” or why they always show him with his cap and gown on at his 8th grade graduation after he’s shot at 3:30 am. Come on people, use your heads. These people are not innocent. Almost all the CPS students killed last year had criminal records and gang affiliations. Where is the common sense? This is the life they chose to live. I do feel remorse for the kids who became collateral damage, but they’ll still grow up to be two-six from 47th and Damen just like the rest of the family. So don’t worry too much about them.
@ Dave
Ahh, nothing like the sound of someone celebrating and protecting baby murder in the mid-afternoon. Seriously though, do you really consider yourself a hero? I know you guys pat yourselves on the backs allot and give little shiny medals, but do you -really- believe your a hero? I just refuse to believe anyone is that self-involved/stupid as to believe modern police are anything more then wannabe gangsters with a badge. I mean really, if a lay person can look at what your doing and say, hey, that seems pretty back-asswards, maybe you shouldn’t do it that way, it may be time to consider your doing something wrong.
What is this, a bad Tom Cruise movie? Are you reading into the future? Do not sit here and try to feed us some bullshit about the kids where going to grow up to be this or that. Your job is to protect the citizenry, and until those kids did something, they where part of the innocent your supposedly here to protect. As if anyone really buys that shit anymore (outside of you, of course).
Your job is not to get home to your families safely, and if you think it is, quit. Your job, what you want to be called a hero for doing, is serving the public. Shooting children doesn’t really qualify you as a hero or a public servant. Grow up.
Is “Dave” for real? WTF? Do you actually believe that shit, pig?
‘Almost all the CPS students killed last year had criminal records and gang affiliations. Where is the common sense? This is the life they chose to live.’
this is where the debate should start… I think drug prohibition is a huge contributor to gangs and violence. so many ‘victimless crimes’ are being pursued, we have more ‘criminals’ than any nation at any time in history. ‘Where is the common sense?’ indeed.
So Dave, I use pot to relieve symptoms from my MS. Who the hell are you to “Monday morning quarterback” me and my decisions until you walk a few days in my shoes? Other than the fact that without the pot I would be in a wheelchair. Of course we all know that cops never examine people’s actions after the fact. Cops never “MMQ” citizens, do you Dave? You dish it out buy you can’t take it, just like every other cowardly bully I have ever known.
Dave: “You should be thankful that there are 13000 shepards out there on your behalf. How dare you question the manner in which we provide your safety”
Puke. Ok, you are either a troll that has done some research or you are an actual member of CPD. I’ll bet the citizens of Chicago are proud.
Say Dave, I am an Illinois resident, I have a BA in Criminal Justice and considerable training and experience relevant to law enforcement. I am qualified (perhaps over-qualified) for entry level patrol positions. And what a challenge Chicago would be for a new copper! You want to know why I’ve never seriously considered coming up north to test with CPD. Look at yourself in the mirrror and you will have your answer, you merciless thug.
So Dave, you ever work with special ops. Did you roll w/ Jerome Finnigan and the boyz? See, i’ve done plenty of research on policing in Chicago, and I know some of your deepest darkest secrets. I would not want to be part of that mess, and I’d never lower myself to riding with a two-bit gangster in blue like you. Your rationalization for shooting dogs and kids sounds so much like a jailhouse interview or a mafia wiretap case that it was scary. I would say shame on you, but it seems you are a bit beyond shame at this point.
Everytime you talk that garbage, everytime you go out and treat citizens like the enemy, you spit on your star, Dave. Just remember that.
I usually don’t like to join in for troll feeding time, but
You’re the first ones to call for help when you’re in trouble.
This asinine statement is one of the things you’ll always hear when you dare to criticize these goons. It’s right off the cue card.
Personally, I never, ever contact the police if it can possibly be avoided. It’s almost always totally ineffective and/or a really bad idea to attract their attention in any way. The cops are the worst gang out there. But they do love to flatter themselves.
@Rick
That’s a good point Rick. My own personal favorite is the systemic attempt by LEO’s and politicians to make it so that citizens -must- rely on police for protection, and then turn around and demand boot licking for the off chance that they will do what they’ve made it so that only they can do (seeing as how the courts declared they have no legal obligation to anyway).
Dave, I read it here, but I liked it so much that I have to repeat (steal) it. “I wouldn’t piss in your mouth if your lungs were on fire.” And that pretty much goes for anyone in law enforcement. And no, I don’t look to you or any other punk with a badge or a gun for protection or safety or anything else. I wouldn’t call the police if I found a dead body on my front porch.
My father was a cop. From that experience and my experiences with LEOs and other observations, I think you are all basically cowards (my father was) who think the rest of us should all get on our knees and service you for your “service.” Like it or not, you are all on the public dole, which means we get to question your every action. If that’s too much for you, find another line of work. Repeat after me, “Would you like fries with that?”
#47 Charlie O: “I wouldn’t call the police if I found a dead body on my front porch.”
Unless you enjoy the aroma of putrefication, you should at least call the coroner/medical examiner!
Ok, giving you a little shit, but I don’t think that kind of hyperbole is helpful, Charlie. I share your disgust with Dave’s comments and drug war carnage. But think about it this way: The police are supposed to be involved in death investigation. They should not be involved in enforcing moralistic laws that make life easy for organized criminal groups. If the cops are working a DOA case, then they would be doing something that is valuable to society, so I say call ‘em so they can do real police work.
“You’re the first ones to call for help when you’re in trouble.”
I resent that! I don’t call 911 when I’m in trouble, I reach for 9MM.
…from what i heard the dog never charged the cop he was going the other way to the kids room even after being shot the first time he didnt after the cop he was trying to make it to the girls room it makes no sense to shoot a dog 9 times
Anonymous on September 6, 2009 6:33 PM
How long will it be before the American empire collapses to the point that the pigs are engaging in open, honest-to-god, no-attempts-at-justification banditry against homes and businesses? This is the natural path for the military and police forces of crumbling empires to take. I mean, eventually we’re just not going to be able to pay these people have a few laughs with their buddies over coffee and donuts about shooting puppies and running over kids and electrocuting mothers in front of their children and planting drugs in some more or less randomly selected old lady’s house after murdering her in cold blood. We’ll be lucky to just scratch by ourselves. What do you think they’ll do then? Go out and get real jobs?
@JOR
Well if you keep up with this blog you’ll know it’s already been happening in Philadelphia. It occurred en mass in New Orleans during hurricane Katrina. Out west/south it’s apparently quiet common for police to use drug seizure statutes to line their pockets and under the Christmas tree so….Now I guess would be the answer?
“Almost all the CPS students killed last year had criminal records and gang affiliations. Where is the common sense? This is the life they chose to live.”
This a ‘Dave’ re butt al…(too many jokes there;-)
Let’s talk Drug War, let’s talk Latin American Drug Lords funded by Congress/ CIA for Political/Resource, Mil-Ind Com agendas, let’s talk laws passed in Senate that no politician bothers to read, rather voting in a complex dance of Favour Trading (so many laws that EVERYONE MIGHT BREAK ONE), let’s talk Lobby Industry, let’s talk politicians passing laws then retiring to so-called civilian infrastructure where they live off the laws they have passed. Ghettos are created from above, people do not choose to live in them. Let’s talk Corporate Farming of jobs and factories overseas, shitting on past employees and throwing them on the scap heap – in ghettos, Dave. These people do not CHOOSE to live this way, you Pig in Shit, their masters CHOSE, you are not a ‘Shepherd. You are not even a Drovers’ Dog.
Mein gott. Is there anything more terrifying than a worldview cobbled together with indoctrination and random bits of pop culture? The tyranny of evil men, indeed.
Dave is a work of genius. I pretty much couldn’t get past the “unless you’ve done the job you can’t criticize” argument. It’s such a lame attempt to deflect even the most valid and well thought out argument. Imagine feeling that no matter what the specifics, the only folks qualified to evaluate are the other “Real Heroes”. Convenient. What a wonderful way to make sure from your world point of view that you never have to even consider any other. Civilian oversight be dammed. You never walked the beat you hippy dippy bastard!
Yes. Truly. Thank god the uneducated, unbalanced, and uniformed are out there to the tune of 13,000 strong protecting us from the evil hordes let loose in our modern metropolis. The vanquishing defender riding in his metal steed, armed and vigilant, ever on guard for US against the dirty masses. Like grandmothers, or dogs. Perhaps women bartenders (wasn’t it in Chicago that an officer beat the tar out of a female bartender?). And that the Real Heroes like Dave have the time to butcher two movie quotes into one really poor one to try and make a point.
Wow! All this drama, just for me. You guys have made me feel very special on this fine Sunday. Good luck on the rest of your lives. Feel free to come meet me on the Chicago streets and we’ll see how long you last before you piss yourselves. One ride-along in Englewood is all you’ll need to stop questioning our tactics you pussies. You’ll be begging me to take you home to your “happy place” Don’t bother responding. I’m done.
Oh and as a by and by, cause I like statistics, per the 2008 Bureau of Labor Statistics NATIONAL CENSUS OF FATAL OCCUPATIONAL INJURIES IN 2008 (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf) report, there were 193 fatal occupational injuries in the state of Illinois in 2008. Of these, 38 were from the “Assaults and violent acts” classification. These were folks who died on the job from violence, and “Includes violence by persons, self-inflicted injuries, and attacks by animals.” So the 38 represented here is not just police but should be inclusion of police killed in the line of duty.
Now as Dave pointed out, there are 13,000 cops. Well, actually there are more like 13,400 per the Wiki in Chicago (good enough for a stat like this). Therefore even if the 38 figure represented only police officers, only .003% of the officers were killed on the job. That stat isn’t even accurate because the 38 deaths were for the whole state, and I am dividing by only the number of police on the Chicago police force. If we added up all the Illinois police and sheriff, god knows what the number could drop to. I am assuming the mean streets of Champaign-Urbana need patrolling too.
By way of comparison, the transportation industry in Illinois saw almost twice as many deaths in 2008. Police officer never cracks the top 10 most dangerous jobs in America, Illinois or otherwise.
Now this is not to say cops ought to be killed. Or that I have no sympathy. But this imaginary creation that police daily fight for survival, live by a thread, and are somehow at risk in ways no other worker in America can even imagine is horseshit. Until we get rid of it, and recognize the situation for what it is, or rather until the police allow us to accurately paint the reality, we won’t be able to have a valid conversation about what we really should be doing. But that will never happen, because it isn’t in their financial interest.
“You’ll be begging me to take you home to your “happy place””
More likely we’d head for some donuts and harass some brown people, I suspect.
@ Dave
I know your saying your done but I know people like you and your ego will require you to come back and check. So here.
I live in Baltimore, and not the nice part. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t live in eastern district, but I’m less the 4 blocks from it. Is it scary? Yeah, sometimes it can be down right terrifying living here. Especially given the fact that if an armed thug called a cop was to find me carrying anything that I might be able to use to defend myself I would be in some serious shit. That being said, I’m -still- more scared of being “jacked up” by the police for living where I do than I am for being assaulted by some hood. Seriously, my roommate would be more than happy to tell you about the times he’s been stopped, physically assaulted, and harassed by the lovely folks of the Baltimore City police for living where we do.
That is just one story. I literally have a dozen stories of him, myself, or neighbors being accosted by the police for literally no reason. To reiterate myself, I live next to the ghetto, and not some suburban “ghetto” but Baltimore Cities eastern district, and I am more scared of the police then I am of the people living around me.
woah. looks like dave brought his ball to the wrong game. obvious troll is obvious when you spout bs like
“I do feel remorse for the kids who became collateral damage, but they’ll still grow up to be two-six from 47th and Damen just like the rest of the family. So don’t worry too much about them.”
that’s so plain to see, i can’t help but feed away:
are you a clairvoyant? No, you’re just a jock with a gun and a badge. what the hell do you know about the kid’s future? i’m ashamed that people with that sort of faith in who they are SWORN TO PROTECT would shirk the responsibility so coldly. It is that kind of thinking that reinforces the identity crisis that the “ghetto folk” suffer from. Your line of thinking perpetuates what you are complaining about facing daily as much as anything else. And, unfortunately, that line of thinking is all too pervasive these days. I’m not saying there aren’t irretrevably wayward individuals everywhere, but you’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater with a statement like that. And maybe we are in this case too, simply blaming the police. but, like your daily beat inundates you with idiotic thugs and “lowlives”, we inundate ourselves with news of police brutality, police criminality and official corruption. It’s just as easy for us to say pigs are pigs. We’d like for it not to be so easy to do. We’d like to see fewer of these stories. We’d like to think all LEO’s do the right thing for the right reasons, and your paltry defense of police did nothing to help us do so.
Dave,
If you’re really a cop, you are a bad cop. I know there are good cops, and they’d say the same. You will be a bad cop unless and until you have a moment (or series of moments) where you realize that your attitudes are authoritarian, and therefore, in direct conflict with the Constitution. I hope that day comes.
Good luck,
Les
David,
“Out west/south it’s apparently quiet common for police to use drug seizure statutes to line their pockets and under the Christmas tree so….Now I guess would be the answer?”
The problem with this is that they’re using asset forfeiture laws here, so there’s an element of an attempt at justification. Don’t get me wrong though, that’s definitely a huge step towards open banditry.
By “open” banditry I mean the kind of banditry that offers no attempt at justification except, maybe, “We successfully took it by force of arms, therefore it is ours.” The inevitable total breakdown of the economy should do the trick.
Pit Bull Deflates Police Cruiser Tires
JOR, It does happen sometimes already but I know what you mean about open and widespread. At the moment its confined to incidents like this:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/05/texas.police.seizures/
But it will become more and more open as the media and our gutless lawmakers continue to ignore it.
#38 | Marty | September 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
plus, calling us ‘liberals’!!!! that’s the funniest of all the funny shit.
What? You’re not liberal?
@ 64 “But it will become more and more open as the media and our gutless lawmakers continue to ignore it”.
No. More likely it is it will increase as towns go bankrupt from lack of tax revenue. My mother lives in a gated community with a private security outfit. Many folks are delinquent on their monthly dues, so in order to take up the slack, security is writing all manner of fake-charge tickets. The thing security fails to understand is: these are all older folks, and retired. They have, and take, the time to fight these tickets, and they do.
JS, thanks for that link. And I have to say the grizzly’s on the money – as the tax base dries up and cops just can’t be paid for out of tax revenues, they will turn to outright banditry – first the kind of highway robbery you linked to, and then quite possibly (as long distance transportation becomes less common), full scale raids and invasions of communities. Eventually it won’t even be about tickets or courts or any of that fancy legal make-believe. They’ll just kill people and steal their stuff.
And good money says the law’n'order conservitards will STILL be making excuses for ‘em.
Yes Brandon that last part is from a Few Good Men. Unfortunately retard Dave doesn’t realize that Jack Nicholson wasn’t one of the “Good Men”, he was a bad man. In fact, I’d say he was a sociopath who felt he was above the laws of the society he protected because he provides protection for that society. You’ve drawn precisely the wrong lesson Dave. You’re also an idiot.
To Dave (the cop), I wouldn’t call a cop no matter what was going on around me, I’m safer taking care of myself than having trigger/taser happy cops getting involved. I am well capable of handling a gun (had training, have ccp, practice regularly).
Last time a cop was called to any family member it was concerning a burglary. The cops did jackshit — no fingerprint taking materials were in their “kits”, they took a few notes from our “interview” and pretty much told us if we wanted our stuff back it was unlikely we’d ever get it, but we’d have to contact all the pawnshops in our county and the surrounding counties too and describe our possessions to each of them aqnd leave our phone #, ourselves, and then just hope. No further investigation was ever done, no follow-up, nothing!
A couple years later a cop from one of the nearby counties called us and told us they’d recovered our handgun (one of the stolen items — which had been in our safe, the one they threw down the stairs trying to cause it to break open and when it didn’t they took the whole damn safe). They never told us how they recovered it and we never recovered anything else.
The last time the cops were called to any of my friends’ homes, they arrested my friend, who was defending himself against an assault, rather than the assailant who attacked him, my friend spent 7 days in jail (none of his friends, including me, could afford to lose 10% of his bail bond in this economic climate) before it all got straightened out, he lost his job for being absent; how does he ever get those 7 days and his job back? He doesn’t.
Nope, the cops are too busy busting pot smokers, killing dogs and beating up/tasing/shooting innocent people to ever put any time into investigating a mere burglary or who is truly at fault in an assault. You cops can all just fuck off and die; far as I’m concerned, you are the enemy, not the heros, and the whole world would be better off without any of you.