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By: Rocket

Rocket — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:57:01 +0000

It matter’s not that he was a preacher; just he was innocent.

It matters not what his race was (although I think it is a factor in the lack of public outrage); he was innocent.

The police, in my opinion, after looking at the video, reading their statements, make several poor decisions. Not trying to apprehend him in the lot before he get’s in his car was a dumb mistake. Not using a uniform car to pull him over later, another tactical error.

Officer safety should not trump citizen protection. With all the taser situations happening in this country IE: Police using Taser’s to force a citizen to comply with their “requests” and all the bad conduct happening out there; it’s no wonder that respect for police is now at pre-9/11 levels.

But, to quote a officer in a gang task force a few years back; “Don’t worry about the local gangs.. we are biggest gang out there.”

The Gang in Blue.

By: steven

steven — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:34:23 +0000

I have left comments on a few websites about the MURDER of this man by police. he is not the first and if something is not done soon he wont be the last police in this country are out of control . I heard something a few months ago about an 80 year old woman killed by police when they raided the wrong house. in NY a undercover cop was shot by 2 other undercover cops while he was making a bust, but all they saw was a man holding a gun so they jumped out and shot him. they are even getting there own people killed because of these terrorist tactics the use . do I even have to mention Rodny King and when the police were found not guilty LA burned for what 3 days .but that was all turned into a race thing ,dont get me wrong it was a race thing but it was also another atempt by police to abuse there power and try to kill someone “just because they can”. If that riot was aimed at the police and only the police there would’nt be a police force in LA to this day.If the police keep going the way they are this will happen one day. This is AMERICA we have RIGHTS we can wait untill the penelty for having a tail light is being rammed off the road and shot . Or do some thing about it these men were county sheriff they have to be ellected into office .make it clear to the men who run, that any officer who deals with the public must be in uniform and in a marked car. its a start these police need to understand they are not the CIA

By: No Nonsense

No Nonsense — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:46:14 +0000

How does being a PASTOR change the situation other than increased motive to flee and protect his reputation??? How does being a PASTOR exempt him from the law or pardon him from unlawful behavior? Bill, you want to condemn men who put their lives on the line for you. You are a moron for your lame comparisons. I’m trying to understand your pain from being betrayed by someone you trusted or maybe even loved but shifting blame isn’t healthy in the healing process. The driver who was fleeing from law enforcement and hit an IDENTIFIED agent with a motor vehicle is at fault.

“When someone flees, they put themselves in danger, innocent people in danger and the law enforcement officers chasing them in danger,” Riley said. “I hope these tougher penalties will make someone think twice if they get the idea of trying to outrun the police.” http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20090520/NEWS/905209982/0/APS?Title=New-law-stiffens-penalties-for-fleeing-law-officer

Facts are facts no matter how much crap you try to cover them up with. There is no way you are in law enforcement…..or have jurisdiction in this universe.

jurisdiction n. Law. The right and power to interpret and apply the law (psst….not break the law)

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:25:25 +0000

No nonsense- you sure sound like someone out of Police Academy- the officers were heard by the witnesses in open air- the so called suspect (was in a closed car) I hope you show up in my jurisdiction, 5 over the limit and you are a considered a deadly force that needs stopped- same theory you use- the officer was laughing and went to hospital just to make it look like a good shoot as you state- you are a trigger happy danger to society- hope the officers get life w/o parole- if in fact the officer worsened the situation by hauling a mortally wounded man from his car as reported and knelt on his chest shows they were amatures- I bet you were one of the three, trained by Barney and Opie and other rednecks. One more thing- why did they not get the “woman” who was a suspect instead of letting her alone and following someone they knew nothing about?

By: local citizen

local citizen — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:37:38 +0000

Just a few miles down the road from the dead pastor’s church, this happened.

http://www.921wlhr.com/news.htm

Hart County authorities are searching for two men involved in a carjacking.

… The driver of the 1985 red S-10 pick up was pulled out of their vehicle by two black males at gun point.

Once the victim was out of the truck, shots were fired at the victim as the pair drove off with the truck. …

By: local citizen

local citizen — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:32:36 +0000

Sorry, that didn’t identify Chance Oxner, but this one does:

http://www.thenortheastgeorgian.com/articles/2009/09/10/news/breaking_news/02breakingnews.txt

Warrants obtained from Stephens County Magistrate Court show that NCIS Team Deputy Commander Chance Oxner took two warrants for sale of cocaine on Kala Jones Barrett of Room 9, Relax Inn, Toccoa.

By: local citizen

local citizen — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:35:18 +0000

How do I know that Chance Oxner was involved in the shooting?

http://www.wnegradio.com/2009_09_01_archive-news.html

Sources Identify Woman Involved in Ayers Investigation

9/14/2009

By MJ Kneiser

The woman listed by investigators as the “target” who was with the Reverend Jonathon Ayers moments before he was shot by undercover investigators is a 26-year old who has been in trouble with the law before.

Sources say she is Johanna Kayla Jones Barrett, whose address is listed as the Relax Inn in Toccoa.

Barrett is charged with two counts of selling cocaine. She remains in the Stephens County jail.

According to sources, Barrett is known to law enforcement in at least three counties for various crimes. She has served time in the Georgia Department of Corrections prior to this latest arrest.

Members of Rev. Ayers’ church say they don’t believe he was involved in anything illegal with Barrett. They say if he was with her, he was likely trying to help her.

Rev. Ayers was shot as members of the Mountain Judicial Circuit NCIS Team were conducting a drug investigation of which Barrett was apparently the target.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation continues to investigate, but refuses to give a timeline on when that investigation might be complete.

By: local citizen

local citizen — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:32:07 +0000

Also, one of the “injured” officers chased the pastor 1/4 of a mile to the crash scene where he then dragged the fatally wounded man of God from the car, threw him to the ground and kneeled on his bullet ridden body.

From the website: http://www.wneg32.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1502:another-witness-in-ayers-case

“It was pretty intense,” says David Wagener. Wagener is describing the scene where 28-year-old Jonathan Ayers ran off the road and crashed his car. He says he saw, what he believed, was an undercover police officer running down the hill.
“He approached the driver side of the car and pulled the door open and grabbed the driver out. Grabbed him kinda by the neck and shoulders and threw him to the ground and then kneeled on him,” explains Wagener.

By: local citizen

local citizen — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:25:52 +0000

Are you aware that one of the NCIS officers involved in the Johnathan Ayers shooting has a habit of getting hit by cars?

Source: http://216.116.225.82/stories/2004/10/24/met_432211.shtml

Augusta Chronicle – http://augustachronicle.com/

Across Georgia
Sunday, October 24, 2004

Police say woman dragged officer in car

CLARKESVILLE – A police drug investigator was dragged by an SUV down a gravel road Thursday while investigating a home, police said, but survived with a crushed collarbone.

Chance Oxner, a commander for the Northeast Georgia Drug Task Force, was helping on a routine check Thursday when Shannon Lynn Rich, 20, drove up to the home.

When Officer Oxner asked her to step out of her vehicle, a 1997 Chevrolet Suburban, “she floored it,” Sgt. Tonya Elrod said. “Next thing I knew, he was being dragged down the road.”

By: No Nonsense

No Nonsense — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:56:24 +0000

Bill, there were witnesses that clearly heard and saw the agents identify themselves. One agent was “HIT”and not “tapped” by the fleeing car. A car IS considered a deadly weapon. Why try and blur the situation with stupid cliches and innuendoes. Why would he try to convince anyone that he had done nothing wrong if he had “NO IDEA” what was going on? What happened to the story about getting money to by his wife tires? There is no way you have knowledge of investigation procedures. I don’t have training but I am smart enough to know that you don’t let someone know that they are under surveillance. Why are you so bitter….have you been busted for solicitation for prostitution? Do you think drugs should be legal? I suppose in your world the agent should have waited and called the guy to say “excuse me sir, why did you run me over.” The agents did identify themselves. The actions taken were a direct result of the driver’s attempt to flee and disregard for life in the process. Oh the dangers of trying to serve and protect– It might just get you crucified… or RAN OVER. I would like to thank all law enforcement and military for serving and protecting our country.

By: Bill

Bill — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:52:30 +0000

#207 No Nonsense- you must be a cop, I saw the video, your deductions lack merit- he was seen in the company of a prostitute/criminal (who the cops left alone at the motel where the pastor dropped her off) and did WHAT? followed him, the officially stated “non suspect”,
Maybe (using your thought pattern) the cops in all reality were on the way to the 7-11 and needed a donut fix, but alas, they had no money left, they must have used it all to pay the prostitute for services (why else leave her alone at the motel) and then they saw the pastor get money from the atm and wow! what an opening- money for donuts and we can go back to the motel and get more!-

That’s the same insane logic you use in your post here
The pastor asked the paramedic who first tried to save his life “Who shot me?” that brings to light the truth, a dying mans last few words, he also said, tell my wife that I did nothing wrong and I love her” – then he went home, to the one he was trying to serve

Oh the dangers of trying to be like Jesus and visit the hurting, the prostitutes, the drug addicts of the world- it may just get you Crucified (or in the modern world) shot

By: Bill

Bill — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:38:30 +0000

#177 Chad
you said; his guy ran over one of the police officers and attempted to run over the officer who shot him.”

You say you happen to know the police officer- both of you are idiots

First- the officer that was “tapped” was not run over, he ran behind a moving vehicle and he was a little slow, too many pork rinds and donuts, he then ran after the car- (shows his injuries were nothing but “cover” second, the video clearly shows the other officers (or druggies posing as officers) were 5-6 feet to the right of the car as it turned (he was NOT trying to run anyone over, just escape armed thugs.

Third; using your reason, I could feel safe that if I shot a person (maybe you) who tapped me as I went through a crosswalk on a green light it would be “a good shoot” as in “citizen arrest” you sir turn in your badge, and visit your “friend” in prison when he get’s 25 to life for a “BAD shoot”

By: sarah

sarah — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:22:08 +0000

you people are a bunch of ignorant people you know that you dont know what the heck you are talking about it wasnt the police who shot the preacher and he was seen more then once driving around with this same lady late at night you people need to get ur story straight

By: Charles

Charles — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:13:52 +0000

“First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.” — Martin Niemöller

Enough said.

By: No Nonsense

No Nonsense — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:15:20 +0000

All you criminals need to shut the hell up. You’re just pissed because law enforcement agents sometimes prohibit you from being the maggots you are. A guy is seen in the company of a drug/prostitution suspect. Agents attempt to question this guy and he flees and HITS AN AGENT WITH HIS WEAPON (aka car). The agents did identify themselves as bystanders confirmed. Guns were NOT initially drawn but were exposed or uncovered. Being a pastor does NOT give this guy the right to resist questioning and attack IDENTIFIED agents with his car. It would, however, give him more reason to run and attempt to protect his reputation. Could that not be the desperate actions of a man wanting to protect his reputation. Hmmm, does that not make sense??? Witnesses have confirmed the agents DID identify themselves so enough with slanderous attempt to cloud the situation. It is very hard for families and friends to accept when “good” people do bad things. If that had been you or your kid hit by the guy fleeing from identified agents would that still be okay? Why would you put less value on the lives of the agents that are risking their life to protect yours????

By: Eric F

Eric F — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:58:11 +0000

ANOTHER FUCKING CASUALTY OF THE WAR ON DRUGS.

when will this bullshit stop? innocent people die everyday. whether they do drugs or not, nobody deserves to be jailed or fucking MURDERED over it.

Fuck police, fuck the law, and fuck our government. It does not care for or represent the people at all.

By: Andrew Williams

Andrew Williams — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:39:12 +0000

“I’ll never understand people. Even being one doesn’t seem to help.”–Spider Robinson

By: Andrew Williams

Andrew Williams — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:34:45 +0000

#139

Billy: My favorite line from Star Trek: Insurrection

How many people does it take before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million? How many people DOES IT TAKE, Admiral?

By: Andrew Williams

Andrew Williams — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:30:53 +0000

#189.

Google Bill Hicks. Or go to billhicks.com.