Comments on: San Francisco Police Chief Proposes Amnesty Plan

By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:32:36 +0000

This is really disturbing. I have a very low opinion of 90% of the police and think they are uneducated bullies. Now they should have a free pass to break the law without the consequences they love to impose on everyone else. Mayor Lee better do something about this.

By: Fascist Nation

Fascist Nation — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:25:28 +0000

Thank god they are saddled with that puke. Not that Mesa, AZ got a better replacement…they just couldn’t get any worse.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:11:56 +0000

“I believe cops who misbehave should be taken out in the parking lot and summarily executed.”

LOL, Dave, thanks.

I’m OK with 60 lashes and firing them and never letting them be cops again, but summary execution still gets the job done. :)

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:34:23 +0000

sorry for shitting on this thread.. Too many browser tabs opened :(

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:33:44 +0000

Hell Beck has called himself a “rodeo-clown” for a reason. He is in it for the money and the celebrity and doesn’t really care about the truth just the entertainment.

By: Dave Krueger

Dave Krueger — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:52:01 +0000

There’s always room for compromise. For example, I believe cops who misbehave should be taken out in the parking lot and summarily executed. But, I’m not unreasonable. I could agree to an amnesty program where cops are merely treated like everyone else.

Also, I don’t believe there’s such a thing as a first time offender when it comes to cops. That would be about as likely as someone getting caught the very first time they drive under the influence of alcohol.

By: Joel

Joel — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:29:00 +0000

“CORRECTION: The amnesty for drunk driving would be with respect to professional disciplinary action, not to possible criminal charges.”

But since a cop pretty much has to shoot someone in the back in front of half the camera phones in Oakland before THAT happens, the distinction is kind of irrelevant.

By: drunkenatheist

drunkenatheist — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:45:45 +0000

Every time I read some crap like this, all I can think is "hey, I thought The Shield was fictional!" Oh, wait, I forgot. Some of the cops on The Shield actually got thrown in jail, suspended, and/or lost their jobs. My bad, I guess the show was fictional.

By: Christ on a Cracker

Christ on a Cracker — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:17:21 +0000

75 minor cases? They should be able to clear these in a less than a month.

How many discipline cases do they have that the investigators can’t keep up? I suspect a serious, underlying problem.

By: supercat

supercat — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:48:15 +0000

I would favor a limited amnesty for certain types of abuse cases, most notably those involving practices which are unlawful, but which are routinely ignored for fear of having to indict practically everyone in a department. What I’d offer would be the following deal: in exchange for waiving statute of limitations, an official would be told that provided he never seeks or receives a government position that would give him discretionary authority over anyone, he won’t be prosecuted for explicitly-named actions; if he seeks or accepts such a position, he would be prosecuted for his earlier crimes.

By: John Markley

John Markley — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:19:14 +0000

From the post:

“We don’t get anything out of taking a pound of flesh,” Gascón said.”

If that’s the case, why are these acts treated as crimes at all? This is why you should never trust any government official who starts talking about forgiveness, or “moving on,” or not dwelling on the past, or the futility of punishment and retribution: it always means that our rulers are trying to get away with something that you or I would be nailed to the wall for.

bendover,

“One of the most annoying attitudes currently in fashion with LEOs is referring to any non-LEO as “civilians”

I sympathize, and I used to feel this way. Police, I reasoned, are civilians just as much as I am, not soldiers, and it’s dangerous to have the police thought of as some sort of military force, lest they start to think of the American people as a subject population to be subdued rather than fellow citizens to be defended. I’ve concluded that I was right on the political philosophy but wrong about the reality on the ground; we ARE a subject population to be subdued, and sadly I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

By: Karl Mansoor

Karl Mansoor — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:49:42 +0000

The minute the department administrators enact any type of “amnesty” plan it becomes precedent for future violations. Future offenders will point and say if you let others off the hook you must do the same here.

Not holding officers strictly accountable sends the wrong message to other officers and demoralizes those who toe the ethical line.

By: Windypundit

Windypundit — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:27:44 +0000

It’s amazing how often the childhood response of “You First!” comes in handy:

“There’s a very small group of people in the department whose history is irredeemable,” the chief said.

Well, Chief, why don’t you get rid of those people first—as a show of good will—then come talk to us about your amnesty plan.

By: perlhaqr

perlhaqr — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:06:58 +0000

More “One rule for me and another for thee”: http://consumerist.com/5347771/mattel-primary-reason-for-toy-safety-law-gets-exempted-from-it

By: Reggie Hubbard

Reggie Hubbard — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:06:33 +0000

“Those cases, he said, include charges such as use of inappropriate language, being discourteous, failing to properly fill out a police report or a first-time misdemeanor drunken-driving arrest.”

I really don’t mind reduced punishments for the first 3 out of 4 here. After all, police officers have stressful jobs. But this seems like an excuse to allow cops to drink and drive (beyond the already common non-reporting that Radley covers about 2 or 3 times a day).

By: MacGregory

MacGregory — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:42:42 +0000

What difference will it really make? It seems to me that LEOs are granted amnesty the day they pin the badge on them.

“There’s a very small group of people in the department whose history is irredeemable,” the chief said.

Then why the fuck are they still working there, chief?

These douchebags need their little dicks ripped off and a flashlight shoved up their ass so they can see better.

By: Angie

Angie — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:30:23 +0000

Yeah if this actually goes thru (and being San Francisco there is no doubt there), I would like to see all Californians stand up next time something happens to them and say “I would like one of those amnesty plans for me please”. If it is good enough for the police of San Francisco, it is good enough for all the people of California.

By: Windy

Windy — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:18:19 +0000

Dugg it! And made the first comment.

By: Frank

Frank — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:07:59 +0000

“All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.”

And then cops wonder why no one respects them.

By: roy

roy — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:53:35 +0000

To be fair, installing an ignition interlock in a patrol car would never work. They’d just get a suspect to blow into it.