Go **** Ted Kennedy’s dead ****.

And what David wrote.

Sticks and stones…oh, where you trying to make an argument there? Seemed more like an ad hominum. Also, I thought the country was doing pretty bad right now…or are you arguing that passing JFK’s agenda was bad for the country? That we can agree on I’m sure.

@old

“Quick, sanctimoniously protect the deceased. Vilify all who question dear leader before they do as they did to Hitler and Stalin”

Seriously though, Kennedy was a war mongering, women murdering, thieving, elitist who was an asshole in life and just because he’s dead does not mean he is now out of reach of criticism. Despite how much you may wish he was.

“Finally—and you’d think this would be obvious—honoring a recently deceased politician is a really, really awful reason to pass a trillion dollar piece of legislation.” No it’s not. Revisit 1964 and see just how much better the United States is as a country for passing the legislative agenda of the then late JFK.

We can all be sure that Teddy felt great remorse over what happened that fateful night:

• ‘One of His Favorite Topics of Humor
Was, Indeed, Chappaquiddick Itself’
— Kennedy Friend Ed Klein

Sorry about that.

Most surreal moment in television and political history ever….watching Teddy question Clarence Thomas on his morals and integrity…HA! I would guess Teddy could have been considered an “expert witness”…

Yep…pretty easy to spend everyone else’s money…especially when daddy’s mob money left you sitting more than well off.

Searching searching searching….nope…still don’t care he’s dead. Agree with one of the first commentors….you are way nicer than I am Bradley. I guess in some’s eyes, a few good legislative initiatives are enough to outweigh a dispicable act of cowardice (that would have landed those of us not named Kennedy in prison for a few years I’m sure) that cost a young lady her life.

You know, I just wanted to write that I usually take the time to develop carefully reasoned arguments here and I don’t have such a short fuse. I am grateful to those who share my point-of-view for having the patience to remain calm. Please forgive my lashing out as borne of frustration.

I regard rabid statists of the sort of Steve C and cleavingspace as roughly akin to hosts of an open bar at an AA meeting. Those who have made it over to The Agitator are drifting ever closer to liberty and peace and away from slavery and violence, and all the rabid statists want is to lure these freedom-lovers back to their black holes of violence by plying them with superstition, fear and lies. I just can’t let that go unchallenged.

/soapbox

To cap it off, fwiw, a more eloquent and perfectly logical dismantling of Lord God Theodore Kennedy than I could ever muster:

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0908n.asp

I know we’ve agreed on stuff, like Steve being a ass and wives ruining your dating life, just can’t think of anything else off the top of my head. I’ve never felt it necessary to have to agree with someone 100% of the time in order to count them as a friend, as long as someones not a total dick we can get along swimmingly.

Here’s to us agreeing someday, Tokin. On my terms, of course. ;)

P.S. As I, and others who share similar views, have expounded ad nauseum on those views countless other times on this and other forums, I feel no special obligation to redevelop these arguments for someone as undeserving as you. Please catch up on your homework on your own time.

P.P.S. I, and others who share my anarchist philosophy, take a considerable amount of heat on this very forum for our radical views from the very libertarians you conflate with us anarchists. If you can’t take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen, to paraphrase that well-known war criminal Harry Truman.

#24 | Steve C | August 27th, 2009 at 10:43 am

Always interesting to hear what libertarians value, how small-minded they are….7/15/2050: Radley Balko dies, contributed not much of anything because he spent his life as a journalist, and on the basis of a little Rand and Econ 101 and utilitarian philosophy decided that it would be of some value to humanity or even his community to give the stock libertarian take on whatever was at the top of the news cycle.

Nooo, you didn’t start off by being an ass at all.

Everything I’ve said is substantive and not different in tone from the precedent laid down by Radley’s post. I’ve put out some pretty substantive arguments, and I’ll take this as a weak way of avoiding the substance because you have nothing to say. You feel that “Steve C is the stupidest fucking person in the world” ought to settle it.

You’re still in a fairy tale world. The argument that we have to speak kindly of the dead, just because they’re dead, is ridiculous. If a man was a dickhead his entire life, dying doesn’t turn him into a saint. Radley went out of his way NOT to piss on his grave but because he didn’t “rent his clothes and put sackcloth on his loins” you view it as a desecration of the deceased. Fairy tale time.

#63 | drunkenatheist | August 28th, 2009 at 12:24 am

I presume you are anti-equal marriage rights, support discrimination against non-Christians, and support any sort of racism thrown at people of color? After all, if there is some sort of fucked up, convoluted way to argue that the rights of majority are being violated, I guess all those pesky minorities should shut the fuck up and stop being so uppity, right?

You caught me. Since I believe the people (as in “we, the people”) have the right to decide most issues for ourselves I obviously hate minorities, especially the ultra-minorities like black-bi-athiest-mentally/height/hearing challenged people. Maybe instead of screaming “I have the right to marry my ex!” you should try convincing others that “we” should be allowed to do as we please. Of course, that would mean you would have to take other peoples views into consideration, and we can’t have that.

Unlike you and Steve C, I understand some of my views are in the minority, I’m not entitled to everything I want, and it’s best to argue with reason to convince others, not hyperbole. Steve got dinged down so far not solely because he was wrong, but because he was an ass about it. If you’ll notice Cynical and I disagree but that doesn’t give me an excuse to be an asshole. Just because we disagree doesn’t mean the other person is the epitome of evil.

Now that I’ve said that let me add I think bi- folks are just like agnosticts, too weak to make up their minds. There, I said it.