On Giving Credit

Monday, August 24th, 2009

Techdirt and the Washington City Paper pick up the story of CNN and the Jackson Clarion-Ledger running with my Hayne scoops without acknowledgment.

I’m always a little afraid of sounding whiny in all of this. I’d like credit for my hard work, but it’s true that this sort of thing happens all the time in journalism. You can only “own” a story in the figurative sense. And a Google search will reveal that the Hayne story has been mine since I first started looking into it a few years ago. So it’s not a huge deal. Just frustrating.

The really galling part though, as both Tech Dirt and the City Paper explain, is that the traditional media has itself been whining lately about bloggers and other new media sites using their reporting without proper credit.

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22 Responses to “On Giving Credit”

  1. #1 |  Henry | 

    I’ll just mention, as a regular reader of your blog, that I’ve found your posts about other news sources picking up the Hayne story to be appropriate and not whiny at all.

  2. #2 |  Mattocracy | 

    Hypocrisy, the goose and ghander, etc.

  3. #3 |  John | 

    I think when the traditional media complain of bloggers and news media sites not giving them credit, they’re referring to the credit that comes in the form of a check.

  4. #4 |  Cynical in CA | 

    “The really galling part though, as both Tech Dirt and the City Paper explain, is that the traditional media has itself been whining lately about bloggers and other new media sites using their reporting without proper credit.”

    Ah, the Hobbesian bellum omnia omnes.

    Human violence knows no limits.

  5. #5 |  Ginger Dan | 

    First, Radley, I don’t think pointing out the hypocrisy of the mainstream media is whining.

    Second, if there was any sort of cosmic justice in this world, Anderson Cooper would bring you on the show and give you a platform to either expound on the problems with Hayne et al. or give you a few minutes to talk about whatever the hell you wanted to.

  6. #6 |  HTownGuy | 

    It’s more galling because the Hayne story required extensive old-fashioned-investigative-journalism that they utilized uncredited.

  7. #7 |  Nick | 

    I don’t remember the last time CNN (or any of the mainstream gov’t propaganda outlets) reported a piece of actual news that I hadn’t previously read about months earlier on a blog. Not only do they never mention the original source, they usually leave out key pieces of information if it makes the state looks like the criminals they are.

    So while it sucks they’re not citing their *main* source, it’s not the least bit surprising and, on the bright side, your work is reaching the people who were least likely to have read about it anywhere else. Lets face it… the people that rely on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc. for their news are are not just un-informed, they’re mis-informed (much worse). Hopefully, CNN doesn’t butcher your work.

    At the end of the day, you’re still a productive journalist and they’re nothing more than the public relations department of the state. Your work benefits society, they harm society. So, even though it would suck for you, I’d be happy if everything CNN reported was stolen from you.

  8. #8 |  javad | 

    Wow..almost immediately after the City Paper article got a trackback on the AC360 blog, the comments were closed by CNN… hmm

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/21/pathologists-work-raises-questions/

  9. #9 |  John MacNeill | 

    Next up; CNN invites the usual pundits on to share their “expertise” on the story.

  10. #10 |  Doug | 

    Growing up in Indiana I learned in like third grade that plagiarism was wrong. Maybe talking heads should be required to take the third grade in Indiana…

  11. #11 |  SJE | 

    This behavior is all the more stupid because any one with access to the internet will find out that CNN ripped you off. Thus, a temporary benefit for a long term harm to CNN’s reputation. Perhaps the story NOW is CNN ripping you off……

  12. #12 |  BamBam | 

    All your articles and research are belong to us.

    You have no chance to be credited make your time.

  13. #13 |  pam | 

    stealing from Balko keeps their budgets low and their profits up. And it’s easy!

  14. #14 |  Lorraine Sumrall | 

    Well, if it’s any consolation whatsoever I most certainly appreciate your investigative reporting on Hayne, and I have turned lots of people on to your journalism. There’s a special place in heaven for an agnostic like you. :)

  15. #15 |  Fluffy | 

    To help you out a little, I am taking a few moments to click on the Google ads on your site.

    There’s one ad by some mofos trying to sell people instructions on how to build a perpetual motion machine to power their houses off-grid.

    I am going to click that ad every damn day to try to take some of their scam money and filter it to this site.

  16. #16 |  Dave | 

    Radley,
    This sounds like psychological projection. They think bloggers are taking their professional stuff because they are taking bloggers free stuff. I guess it’s only a problem if they get paid for it.

  17. #17 |  Sky | 

    #6 | HTownGuy | August 24th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    It’s more galling because the Hayne story required extensive old-fashioned-investigative-journalism that they utilized uncredited.

    DITTO!

  18. #18 |  Cornellian | 

    I’d call your pointing out CNN’s plagarism to be quite restrained. They’re luck you’re not threatening lawsuits.

  19. #19 |  Sean L. | 

    Speaking of lawsuits, would there really be any grounds for one? Any lawyers in the audience interested in commenting on that?

  20. #20 |  pam | 

    they pulled the piece again and ran the piece about the Brittany wannabe instead. I’ve had to suffer through 2 of these insufferable Cooper shows. Jeez, it’s torture.

  21. #21 |  Andrew Williams | 

    I left DC in 2005, so I haven’t read the City Paper since then. By the time I left, it seemed to me the writers there were willing to sacrifice truth and objectivity for the chance to snark. So I’m not surprised they’re not giving credit where it’s due.

  22. #22 |  Sky | 

    pam,

    It makes ya wonder if Hayne is threatening to sue if it’s aired. LOL!
    Does that mean Balko could be sued by Proxy? LOL!

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