Wasn’t it Reagan that didn’t want guns carried? Ah yes the Mumford bill, maybe. My California history is rusty. Nothing like seeing Glenn Beck begging on air to his audience that we don’t need another Timothy McVeigh. What a dilettante! It must be interesting steering weak willed people into whatever sort of action you want of them. But then, you have to come back from that brink, and implore your audience not to blow up any FBI buildings.

http://www.libertyreferences.com/improvised-munitions-handbook/improvised-munitions-handbook.shtml

This should do it for you.

And I’ve watched Marcotte get a new ass torn for her frequently on her own site for that decision and for the way that that turned out, and for how Edwards handled it. (Myself, included, btw, but since you only “occasionally pop onto the site” you obviously know it faaaaaaaaaar better than I do.)

I think that you’re making the mistake that Pandagon is a blog which inevitably reflects the views of Marcotte. It doesn’t; the commenters frequently disagree — and yes, frequently agree — with her. There’s a far wider range of discourse there than red state, which is exclusively GOP uber-righters, or Kos, which is Dem party driven, or even here, which has a niche libertarian populace. All those sites are great at what they do, but they simply don’t start with or end up with the diversity of debate that one sees at Pandagon and I do think that Taylor, Marcotte and Spaulding should get credit for that. (Oh yeah, kinda missed that there were two other people regularly blogging there, eh?)

Look, if you want a wholly radfem blog, go to Shakesville where that philosophical view is unchallenged. Don’t piss on Padagon for (gasp!) advocating views that aren’t sufficiently pure for you.

And just for the record, if you’d troubled your lazy ass to actually to use google you’d find that I post there linking back here with some frequency: six times by the most basic search. There’s a huge overlap on civil liberties between progressives and libertarians and it drives me nuts that neither side sees it much.

Marcotte worked for the Edwards campaign. Stop claiming she’s actually left-wing or anything but a sorta-left of center Democrat.

Also, quit acting as if Pandagon is some sort of bastion of radical thought. I’m a radical feminist who can’t stand most of what occurs on Pandagon because it’s often a bunch of commenters who are an eensy bit left of Hillary Clinton who think that sitting around and posting self-congratulatory comments is more important than actual feminist discourse. I occasionally pop onto the site, but more often than not, it is thinly veiled shilling for the Democratic party. The “It’s a Jungle Out There” bullshit killed most of the urge I have had to visit the site and has reduced my visits to minimal, at best.

I am so sick to death of the idea that the big feminist sites are so omg! radical! and omg! progressive! Christ.

McCullagh’s flogging of the GW denier talking point makes whatever else he says suspect.

Yes, the man in that particular clip is black. Most of the people toting guns to these rallies have been white. IIRC, there was also a white man with a similar weapon at that very same rally.

I used to have the print version in the ’70s. I was an active duty 2nd class petty officer working on weapons systems at the time. Doesn’t that make you feel comfortable?

Truth be told, I was more interested in the LSD recipes than in undermining the United States government.

Should have known I could count on you.

;)

When I hear one of those pests on my street (usually every day in the summer), I start wondering where on the web I could find instructions for an IED.

Here ya go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63GiXzpfGhA

I just think it’s one more thing the liberal media can point to and say “look, anyone who doesn’t agree with us is a bunch of right-wing, extremist nutjob!”.

I just wish I could find the local radio station’s interview with the group leader (I think they call themselves the local libertarian party in Phoenix actually?) but they don’t seem to have it posted anywhere.

The “These protestors are engaging in thuggish intimidation” claims predate the open carry incidents. This line of argument was advanced by the media as soon as the town hall protests started.

If you think that the town hall protestors have received outsized attention, given their numbers, relative to the antiwar protests, I agree with you. But you have no one to blame but progressive bedwetters and their media allies. In order to spread the “thuggish intimidation” meme, you have to draw attention to the protests themselves. It’s unavoidable.

It was the KOSites who started the “ZOMG the brownshirts are back!” complaining in response to a relative handful of people who showed up at town halls and rudely shouted. It was the KOSites who organized on the web and said, “Everybody call their local news outlet to make them aware of all this thuggish intimidation!” So if you have any problem with the media attention lavished on these guys, take it up with the people who made them a media sensation.

K…

I already understand that open carry has nothing to do with maturity. It is a right in Arizona.

But I expect there are still certain neighborhoods where it is not smiled upon.

Scantily covered??? ARGHHHH!!!!! Are you kidding me? The protests were covered all the time and for the most part not negatively at all. “Anti-war sentiment is growing in this country as people question the legality of the war” was the headline every other night! (And for the record I questioned the war greatly and think for the most part it was a huge waste of tax payer money.)

And it wasn’t limited to anti-war protests. Remember the pro-immigration marches? I was IN Chicago for a writing conference during the big one there. Huge crowds in the street. Very positive press for the most part ALL OVER THe NEWS. And the “peaceful” nature of the protests was praised again and again in the media.

As an anarchist, boy, do I hear you on the damned difficulty of getting the message out!

Since when are protestors limited to the announced topic? Were anti-war protestors chastised for showing up when Bush was speaking about things other than the war?

If issue X is important to you, and you want to raise public awareness, then you should appear at high-profile events, not just gatherings of fellow “issue X” sympathizers.

War protests: Hundreds of thousands in American streets, millions in the streets of American allies. Message: some people oppose the war, now let’s cut to hours of programming on why the war is necessary / inevitable, and few if any interviews with senior people like Feingold who oppose the war.

Health care: hundreds of protesters who get constant coverage, whose views are repeated ad infinitum, whose views are also advanced by constant appearances by senior GOP officials, and whose positions are taken seriously and debated at length.

Think about that. Going to war that will kill countless thousands of people? Opposition coverage slight. Going to expand government programs to provide some additional health coverage that is laughably pissant by the standards of the rest of the western industrialized world? Opposition coverage constant.

And you still wanna sell me on the notion that the media is either neutral or merely incompetent? Incompetent, I grant you? But neutral? No. For the most part they, like any other private business, advance the views of their owners: vast corporations.