Happy News

Thursday, August 20th, 2009

vickxThis story made me well up a little.

Cherry would not walk anywhere. He would just lie down all the time.

Georgia probably never had a playful day in her life.

Both pit bulls are among the 22 dogs that the Best Friends Animal Society renamed the Vicktory Dogs after rescuing them from the Bad Newz Kennel in Virginia owned by Michael Vick. More than 70 dogs were taken from Vick’s compound…

“We feel that in the very near future, Cherry may be ready for foster care,” says John Polis, spokesman for Best Friends.

“When we first got him, he would just splay down on his belly. He had just totally shut down. John had to carry him everywhere in the beginning. He’s doing very well now.”

And Georgia is a star on television and in the publicity arena.

She was on Larry King Live Monday night with Garcia and makes the rounds with him to spread the word about the dogs’ recovery from a life of abuse.

“She had experienced fighting her whole life,” Garcia says. “Now she’s going around meeting people all over with us in places like the Beverly Hills Hilton. We hope that sends a very powerful message. She’s gone from rags to riches. These dogs were the victims. All it has taken is patience.”

I’m obviously a dog person. But I’m fine with Vick’s return to the NFL. He did his time. Now let the man earn a living.

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119 Responses to “Happy News”

  1. #1 |  KeithH | 

    god almighty Cappy.

    Purple juice?2 to the dome?Gas Chamber?

    Are you felling alright today.

  2. #2 |  Matt D | 

    A big WTF to #100.

  3. #3 |  Cappy | 

    You want the story, Matt D? Then maybe you wouldn’t say WTF.

    This was about 7 or 8 years ago and I was working as an Animal Control Officer for a medium sized city. One morning the county animal control director called me and informed me that he needed me at the shelter. Their shelter was located in my city limits.

    They had a pit bull they were putting down and the gas chamber was located outside their facility. As they were putting this pit bull into the chamber it escaped from the catch pole and took off running, right towards the downtown area. Prior to the dog being brought to the shelter, it and it’s comrade in arms (another pit bull) had attacked and killed a dog, then when the county ACO and a deputy showed up, this dog went after them.

    I call it into my chief who authorized me to shoot the animal on sight. So I grab my .22 rifle which by the way is fully capable of putting down a pit as I’ve put down a 130 pound wolf hybrid with one shot with this cartridge at a range of 30 yards, and head out behind the jail. Spot the dog as the dog is tearing ass across a four lane highway. As I’m tearing ass across the parking lot a detective swings in, picks me up and we head out across the highway. The dog had run behind a grocery store and there was a berm behind the store, so it was a very safe shot. Shot the dog from the car through the chest. Dog dropped there on the spot but was still alive and trying to get away. I popped it twice more in the head, both shots behind the eye. The dog went unconscious at that time but was still breathing.

    The director the shelter then showed up and injected approximately 20 cc’s of Beuthanasia (purple juice, 2 ml first 10 pounds, 1 ml every 10 pounds thereafter, so it was quite the overdose) through the chest cavity into the heart. We then moved the dog into the truck and transported it to the shelter. Upon arrival at the shelter, the dog was still alive. We then placed the dog in the gas chamber and half an hour later the dog finally died.

    So, is it still “what the fuck”? Or is it something you’ve never deigned to do?

  4. #4 |  MattH | 

    But I’m curious to hear what you think the basis of the rights of a mentally incapacitated person are that doesn’t ultimately rely on them being part of the same species as us.

    I view rights more as long-term commitment strategies by which we try to make ourselves better off, and I think committing to fight needless cruelty does make us better off, within limits. For most people a world with less pain is simply better than one with more pain. Further, it’s useful to have rules that prejudice empathy over sadism, as empathy is a great emotional lubricant that encourages cooperative, rather than hostile behavior. So in that light I think it’s beneficial to enforce rules against torturing animals or disabled people who are not autonomous. Competing with this aim is that a legal system itself is a costly and dangerous instrument, and should be reluctant to intervene in more ambiguous situations. For instance, to outlaw causing any pain or discomfort to animals is to say all 6 billion humans must be vegans, which is a much more challenging argument than saying Michael Vick should be able to entertain himself without hurting something.

  5. #5 |  MattH | 

    Fluffy, I am still skeptical of any symbiotic relationship between humans and dogs, though I admit I could be mistaken. From your own description it seems more likely that humans would have seen dogs as competitors and killed them off or chased them away, and eventually subjugated dogs and bred them for docility. I’m ok with using evolution or sociobiology to try to explain rights, but I”m still skeptical one particular species westerners are fond of happens to have rights while others do not.

  6. #6 |  pris | 

    I had a friend who works with animals tell me, she could no longer be my friend because I support Vick’s right to work again. He did his time and his abuse was ugly, but most everyone gets a second chance in my book.

  7. #7 |  Drunkenatheist | 

    The problem with Vick’s sentence is that, frankly, he was profiting for about six years from a criminal enterprise….which makes his crime not just dog-fighting, but racketeering. While I respect the argument that “laws are crap and should be done away with,” the truth is that Vick got off very easily for violating laws that hold pretty stiff penalties.

    But what actually really bothers me about Michael Vick is what I like to call The Venn Diagram of Retardation. I have found a lot of my old South Jersey/Philly area classmates and added them to my Facebook account. Most of these people do not share my politics, and I’m generally okay with it, just hoping that mine might eventually sink in.

    Over the past few weeks, I have seen multiple “Jane/John Doe joined the group/cause ‘OMG KEEP SEX OFFENDERS OFF THE INTERNETZ'”

    Want to take a guess at how many of these people also supported Michael Vick’s being signed to the Eagles?

    I think that Vick’s return to football is problematic, but I have a much bigger issue with the above-mentioned mentality than anything else. Honestly, I’d be much happier with him paying restitution to every dog rescue who had to take in his dogs, as well as paying for the euthanasia costs for any of his dogs who were put down, rather than serving a slap on the wrists sentence.

  8. #8 |  Greg N. | 

    I wanted to want to give Vick his second chance. I even defended him to my wife, who simply won’t have any of it. But after the 60 Minutes interview, I changed my mind.

    You can’t carry on an operation like Vick did for 6 years, and then just claim it was a “mistake.” I don’t believe for one minute that he thinks anything he did to those poor animals – the drowning, the shooting, the electrocution and, of course, the fighting – was wrong. I think he’s genuinely bummed he got caught, and I think he sincerely thinks it was STUPID to risk everything he had on illegal activity, but I don’t think he thinks it was wrong because it hurt the animals.

    So I don’t think the NFL should have him back. Yes, let him earn a living – doing whatever thuggish, cruel ignoramuses do when they can’t play professional football.

  9. #9 |  I, Kahn O'Clast | 

    I got a -13. I must have hit a nerve!

  10. #10 |  Cappy | 

    #107 – Vick was ordered to pay $928,000 for the care of the dogs.

    51 dogs were confiscated. I believe that 47 are alive as of now. Doing the math on that, it comes to $19,744 per dog.

    Now as these dogs get sold to new owners, will that money be transferred to the new owners or will it line the pockets of the would-be “rescuers”?

    Lastly, I don’t consider a law based upon “because I said so” to be a crime. No victim, no crime.

  11. #11 |  kyle | 

    Two weekends ago i was at a bbq at my good friend’s house. We’d just done the second CCL surgery on our rescue amstaff, a 100 dollar dog that just ran the bill up to 6,400 over the course of 5 months. Her husband, who happens to be a lawyer and in the debt industry on top of that, started discussing cats as property (and he’s a “101 uses of a dead cat” type of person). He actually pulled out the spreadsheet of the costs (clothes, couches, loss of home value from pets, vet bills, special urinary health food). Pets are property. Pets are objects that are owned. But he is consistent, and has made it known that his marriage is a legally binding contract, and that their kids are also his property as he pays for them. His wife (whom i’ve been friends with since 3rd grade) is also property. Everything to him involving money is property, and it being his property is something for him to control. If you feel comfortable using “love” and “property” in the same sentence, by all means do what you want with them. And if some intense experience makes you step back and realize your pets aren’t your property, and that they stick around for reasons above and beyond that you feed them in the morning and keep them fenced or shut in, then you can forgive somebody that has come to experience what love really is.

    And i’d rather have vick playing football again, something he is good at, then letting that lawyer hiring him on as a nurse to take care of my grandmother. She’s still sharp as a tack, even if she needs help getting the groceries into the house. And i’m not sure who gets more excited, her or our kids, when we load up and head to grandma’s house. Its sad that my dad is more concerned with his inheritance being spent, but you can’t win them all.

    Cappy, one of my neighbors has an apbt named lazarus that managed to survive being put down. One of the nicer dogs (of any breed) i’ve met. There was a DPO involved that became concerned over what his neighbors thought about the animal, and nothing more. Problem kids/dogs were raised by problem parents. And its always the dog’s fault. You see the picture of the parents, and the picture of the kid, and you have a good idea where the kid ran away to. And there comes a time when you can no longer take a paycheck returning them to their family. Love vs lust. Beings vs objects. Anybody can experience that change. Realizing you’ve been treated as property or an asset is an ugly monster, especially when you realize you’ve bullied it on down to others.

  12. #12 |  Kino | 

    # 15 I was gonna give ya a thumbs up cuz you made a good point . then you said you were an eagles fan . and i just can’t bring myself to do it sorry

    disclosure : I’m a Buc fan lol

  13. #13 |  Victory | 

    #110, cappy,

    Would mean something if Vick actually paid the fine with his own money instead of money he stole from employee pension funds. http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-3625-feds-michael-vick-illegally-spent-pension-funds.html

  14. #14 |  Drunkenatheist | 

    @Cappy:

    You realize that dog rescues aren’t selling dogs or running some sort of racket, right? Best Friends Animal Society is a much larger operation than many other animal rescues, meaning they have a full staff…this also means they have to pay that staff, as well as pay the medical costs, food, treats, toys, and supplies for all of the dogs. There’s something pretty fucked up about the idea that Michael Vick shouldn’t have to take any personal responsibility for the dogs he put into the rescue.

    Considering that they are funded solely with donations, I don’t see why it’s such a horrible idea to make Michael Vick reimburse Best Friends Animal Society out of his own money.

  15. #15 |  Cappy | 

    @ DrunkenAtheist

    You realize that dog rescues aren’t selling dogs or running some sort of racket, right? Best Friends Animal Society is a much larger operation than many other animal rescues, meaning they have a full staff…this also means they have to pay that staff, as well as pay the medical costs, food, treats, toys, and supplies for all of the dogs.

    Best friends calls it an adoption fee. It’s a monetary exchange for an animal. They’re selling the animals.

    There’s something pretty fucked up about the idea that Michael Vick shouldn’t have to take any personal responsibility for the dogs he put into the rescue.

    Vick didn’t put the dogs into rescue. The dogs were seized by the state and placed there.

    If you give away a dog or sell a dog, are you expected to provide lifetime care for that dog?

    Better yet, if your dog was stolen from you, then found and you no longer want the dog, are you expected to provide lifetime care for that dog?

    Considering that they are funded solely with donations, I don’t see why it’s such a horrible idea to make Michael Vick reimburse Best Friends Animal Society out of his own money.

    Best Friends decided to accept the dogs as their property. This relinquishes any responsibility Vick has towards the dogs.

    Now, if Vick was fighting and killing dogs that belonged to Best Friends, then I could understand recompense for the dogs care once they were returned. As it stands, when the dogs went to Best Friends, Vick was no longer the owner and thus not responsible for the dogs.

  16. #16 |  Steve Verdon | 

    As far as the musculature of the pit bull, I’ve knocked out numerous pits with a catch-pole just as easily as I’ve knocked out the ordinary dog of an equivalent size.

    On the other hand, there was the pit bull that I shot once in the chest cavity, twice in the head, another person injected it with purple juice after the shooting and it was still alive. It took half an hour in the gas chamber to kill it. I’ve also had dogs that have clearly gone down in the chamber, been confirmed as dead come back to life in the landfill.

    This explains a lot. Kind of like how people try to de-humanize humans before the kill them, you try to turn dogs into chairs in your mind. At this point, I don’t think anything will sway you from your positions. I’ve often wondered how people could do those jobs. No I know.

    And yes, I would not deign to do it.

    Suffice it to say, that the money paid for the dogs in the Vick case really isn’t that much money when all things are considered such as transportation costs, training, insurance, etc. But if it helps salve your conscience, then so be it.

  17. #17 |  Max | 

    I don’t have a lot of rules that I live by but one of them is;
    Never ever trust someone who is cruel to animals.

  18. #18 |  Cornellian | 

    If Vick’s team ever came to my city I’d be tempted to throw Kibbles onto the field and hold up banners displaying the pictures of his canine victims. He’s free to play in the NFL if they want to hire him and we’re free to remind everyone what a dog-torturing piece of filth he is.

  19. #19 |  Cornellian | 

    “Never ever trust someone who is cruel to animals.”

    I saw a story once that quoted a guy (psychologist or something) who said the clearest childhood sign that someone will grow up to be a sociopath is cruelty to animals.