Barbour and the CCC

Wednesday, July 8th, 2009

Some commenters to today’s morning links post are insisting that Haley Barbour has no connection to the white supremacist, neo-confederate Council of Conservative Citizens.

In fact, he does. In 2003, Barbour attended a barbecue fundraiser sponsored by the CCC. Money from the event went to buy school buses for a “private academy,” the term for private schools established in Mississippi so white parents don’t have to send their kids to public schools with black kids.

When the CCC posted a photo of Barbour at the event on its website, Barbour refused to ask them to take it down. His defense:

“Once you start down the slippery slope of saying, ‘That person can’t be for me,’ then where do you stop? Old segregationists? Former Ku Klux Klan?”

Even if you buy that argument (and I’ve argued that I don’t think politicians should necessarily return campaign contributions from questionable sources), there’s a difference between refusing the support of someone with racist views and allowing your likeness to be used on a racist organization’s website, particularly for fundraising purposes, or to show off the group’s connections to political power.

Barbour also claimed he didn’t know what the organization represented when he attended the barbecue, a dubious proposition given that the CCC had repeatedly been in the news in prior years due to its connections to other GOP politicians.

Barbour’s going to have to come up with some better excuses if he wants to run for president. And the GOP ought to think long and hard before it considers him a legitimate contender for the 2012 nomination Unlike his unfortunate comment about black people and watermelon back in the 1980s, this is all relatively recent.

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76 Responses to “Barbour and the CCC”

  1. #1 |  Cynical in CA | 

    Your ad nauseums — er, ad hominems aside, Mark, you ain’t seen nothin’ ’til there’s a puppycide post. Good for 100 comments every time.

    If it were ever discovered that Haley Barbour slaughters puppies, the server here would instantly shut down.

  2. #2 |  Tokin42 | 

    I’m curious, was Mark actually banned or was there a little confusion? Radleys pointed out that he’s disagreed with and even a little disturbed with a couple of my posts but I’ve never been threatened with a ban. That’s one of the things I like about this comment section, not everyone agrees. Crap, I disagree with Dave K. 30% of the time but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t enjoy having a beer, or three, with him. Same goes for Crawford, wherever he is. Lets face it, some of you are short-sighted assholes, but that’s what makes it interesting.

    Mark obviously feels a little strongly about Haley and other than calling the agitator a liberal shill I didn’t see anything that crossed the ban line.

  3. #3 |  JS | 

    Tokin “Lets face it, some of you are short-sighted assholes, but that’s what makes it interesting.”

    lol brilliant!

  4. #4 |  Judi | 


    Just felt compelled to throw that in the mix.


  5. #5 |  Hut | 

    Regarding being banned: I’ve had several comments that I’ve written never appear. And the comments, although probably contrary to the views on here, were never offensive or threatening. It seems clear that Radley selectively edits what can be included and what can’t. I’m not sure why my comments were deleted I was prevented from posting, only Radley can answer that.

    I will be surprised if this comment actually make it.

  6. #6 |  Les | 

    Hut, it’s very possible, in fact probable, that the reason has nothing to do with Radley. If he hasn’t blocked Eric Dondero’s comments, he’s sure not going to block yours.

  7. #7 |  Cynical in CA | 

    And with the mention of Dondero, Les wins the thread.

  8. #8 |  Jon H | 

    “Regarding being banned: I’ve had several comments that I’ve written never appear.”

    Could be caught in a spam filter. Over at the balloon juice blog, comments that use the word socialism or its variants get thrown into moderation, because of the part of the word that starts with c and ends with s, which happens to be the name of a pharmaceutical beloved of spammers.

    If something similar is the case here, then comments might not appear until Radley has the chance to go through the spam filter and rescue non-spam comments. That could take a while, as he has a life.

  9. #9 |  Wavemancali | 


    I don’t think Radley selectively edits like you’ve suggested. I think it much more likely that it’s an issue with server/client connection and the script used to post comments.

    I’ve tried to post things that have not shown up, I’ve copied them to a text file on my desktop and tried to post them a couple of hours later and voila they show up.

    No matter how much I try to assert it as fact, apparently not everyone is out to get me.

  10. #10 |  SusanK | 

    Can’t believe I added karma for being called a “short-sighted asshole.” Actually, I’m sure Tokin42 didn’t mean me. :)

  11. #11 |  Michael Chaney | 

    I don’t mind being wrong, but the link this morning and your comments were rather incongruous. Thanks for setting the record straight.

  12. #12 |  tarran | 

    I’ve had a comment disappear; a long time ago I wrote something that could be construed, if you squinted real hard, as a threat against Bush (it wasn’t, merely an observation that ithere were alot of people who wanted him dead).

    It was clearly removed, Radley never contacted me, and it didn’t bother me a whit since I figure it’s his property.

    But it does happen on occasion.

  13. #13 |  SJE | 

    When I submit things they post immediately. The times they don’t is because of some computer glitch or because I did something stupid. I think Radley has better things to do (like playing with Daisy!) than to edit/block my posts or anyone else, except the worst trolls.

  14. #14 |  claude | 

    I’ve posted a few comments that went into hyperspace and never showed up. Each one had contained a link. I think it had something to do with the address used. Reposting the comment and taking the “http” off of it worked. It had nothing to do with Radley. It’s not really my place to speak for the man, but I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Radley isnt going to not let your comment be posted simply because he may not like it. He has no problem with differing view points and freedom of speech. If he did have a problem with that, it would sorta defeat the purpose for a site like this to exist. Unless its the first time you’ve posted with that user name/email address, your comment posts automatically (is supposed to anyhow). Its only the first time you post with a different user name/email that your comments await moderation. I think some of you might be witnessing server issues, as some others have suggested. Just the other day i was unable to get the site to load for quite a while.

  15. #15 |  claude | 

    In fact i think ill test that hyperlink problem. Bay image addresses were what used to disappear all the time on me so if this post shows up, that problem is no longer there.

  16. #16 |  Matt D | 

    I guess sometimes this needs to be spelled out:

    White people are the majority in this country and hold a larger still majority of its political and economic power. When white Americans were last racist in large numbers, we had slavery. We had a civil war. We had lynchings. We had segregation. We had decades of brutality and discrimination. We only emerged just recently from that era–people nearing retirement age today lived through the civil rights movement. The reason Obama gets a “pass” about his former minister is that most people recognizing him as a slightly crackpotty guy, and not a potential harbinger of atrocity.

  17. #17 |  Cornellian | 

    “I am going to forward Balko’s insinuation on to the Gov. office and see what they have to say. Hopefully he’ll file a law suit against Balko!”

    Hopefully Gov. Barbour will read the First Amendment before choosing to waste money on such a lawsuit!

  18. #18 |  JThompson | 

    A post might’ve just gotten lost in transit somehow. Hardware and software glitches are known to occur.

    From what I’ve seen, Balko’s got a pretty light hand on the moderation button. I’ve only ever had one post not posted. Glitches aside, it’s probably because I got a bit too worked up and I was being a complete asshat and said some things specifically to piss people off without really adding anything useful. Exactly what moderation should be used for, imo.

  19. #19 |  ParatrooperJJ | 

    I take it you are anti private schools?

  20. #20 |  flukebucket | 

    “The reason Obama gets a “pass” about his former minister is that most people recognizing him as a slightly crackpotty guy, and not a potential harbinger of atrocity.”

    Obama or Wright? ;-)

  21. #21 |  Dakota | 

    Yo, Mark Seven, its one thing to disagree with RB’s post, its quite another to just be down right nasty, and expose yourself as a flat earther. If you’re looking for a site that won’t call out Republican politicians you should probably click the little red x at the top left of your explorer window right now.

    Oh and as far as comment editing? Dude, highly doubt RB would edit them, or filter them. The agitiator hummed along for at least two years with no comments. I get the feeling that the minute the comments consume any signifigant time for RB they will be 86’ed again, as they should be. He has better things to do, like write.

  22. #22 |  Mark Seven | 

    It’s my understanding that Balko grew up in a union household and views Republicans as evil, which is fine, but don’t claim to be a libertarian! Also, a lot of the folks here come close to defending Robert Byrd, or at least downplaying his role in the KKK. That tells me a lot about the cross section of folks that read this site. And one last thing, so many commenters sound like they might squirt a tear because I was “mean”. Grow up! No wonder so many of you can’t find work and smoke pot in the basement all day, some guy you don’t know tells you you’re stupid and you break down. I imagine if your boss calls you in the office for being late for work you’d head straight to HR with tears in your eyes. God help this once great country!

  23. #23 |  Cynical in CA | 

    Please keep coming back Mark. You add a different perspective on the issues and are a wonderful study in human behavior.

  24. #24 |  Fluffy | 

    Mark, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

    “This site is dedicated to the election of Democrats.” There was no need for you to continue with your one-man idiocy clinic after that one, you had already taken home the gold there.

    Maybe it only appears to you that Radley hates Republicans because he focuses primarily on civil liberties concerns and the GOP does everything it can to shit all over civil liberties at every opportunity.

    Don’t worry, now that Obama has taken Bush’s spot in the “Let’s crap on the Constitution” porta-potty that is the White House these days, now Radley goes after him instead.

  25. #25 |  Radley Balko | 

    “Mark” is done.

    He’s been banned from this site under other names for trolling and for personal attacks on me (and, weirdly, my family). The last time I banned him, it was for posting graphic depictions of sex acts between me and Andrew Sullivan (he seems to be strangely obsessed with Sullivan and Sullivan’s sexuality).

    This, by the way…..”It’s my understanding that Balko grew up in a union household and views Republicans as evil…” is just straight fiction.

    No one in my family belongs to a union. I grew up in a conservative household, in one of the most conservative counties in one of the most conservative states in the country. I voted straight-ticket Republican for the first three elections in which I could vote.

    I’m sure he’ll pop up again. He usually posts a few normal comments under a new name so he gets first-time approval. Then he starts up with the same crap again.

  26. #26 |  thomasblair | 

    Jesus Fucking Christ, Mark Seven!

    ~Republican =/= Democrat

    Face reality.