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	<title>Comments on: Your No-One&#8217;s-Reading-Because-It&#8217;s-a-Holiday-Weekend Links</title>
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		<title>By: WesternStandard.ca &#187; More British Nanny State Files</title>
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		<dc:creator>WesternStandard.ca &#187; More British Nanny State Files</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a city councilor is proposing banning sales of pizza by the slice as a means to curb crime. (h/t Radley)   var addthis_pub = &#039;&#039;; var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;var addthis_options = &#039;email, twitter, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: More British Nanny State Files &#171; Daily News</title>
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		<dc:creator>More British Nanny State Files &#171; Daily News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a city councilor is proposing banning sales of pizza by the slice as a means to curb crime. (h/t Radley) Social [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41  How about &quot;compliance torture&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41  How about &#8220;compliance torture&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: clever teenager</title>
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		<dc:creator>clever teenager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Emotional manipulation of a minor by an adult that results in death should carry some kind of criminal punishment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Teacher, if you lean on me to do my homework one more time, I&#039;ll kill myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Emotional manipulation of a minor by an adult that results in death should carry some kind of criminal punishment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Teacher, if you lean on me to do my homework one more time, I&#8217;ll kill myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, apparently if I would read the whole article I would know that jurors decided that she wasn&#039;t guilty of inflicting emotional harm on a minor. So nevermind to everything I have said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, apparently if I would read the whole article I would know that jurors decided that she wasn&#8217;t guilty of inflicting emotional harm on a minor. So nevermind to everything I have said.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But to clarify, the laws that they chose to try and prosecute her for violating are ridiculous. I&#039;m surprised that we don&#039;t have some sort of criminal law that covers this better than &quot;Illegally accessing computers&quot; and &quot;violating myspace&#039;s terms&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But to clarify, the laws that they chose to try and prosecute her for violating are ridiculous. I&#8217;m surprised that we don&#8217;t have some sort of criminal law that covers this better than &#8220;Illegally accessing computers&#8221; and &#8220;violating myspace&#8217;s terms&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Lori Drew explicitly say as she was pretending to be someone else on myspace that she should kill herself? Emotional manipulation of a minor by an adult that results in death should carry some kind of criminal punishment. I agree its not murder, but five years in jail seems like a good punishment to me.

Sure she may have had other issues, but thats why a grown women shouldn&#039;t be playing emotional hardball with someone else&#039;s kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Lori Drew explicitly say as she was pretending to be someone else on myspace that she should kill herself? Emotional manipulation of a minor by an adult that results in death should carry some kind of criminal punishment. I agree its not murder, but five years in jail seems like a good punishment to me.</p>
<p>Sure she may have had other issues, but thats why a grown women shouldn&#8217;t be playing emotional hardball with someone else&#8217;s kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 &#124;  seeker6079 &#124;  July 4th, 2009 at 11:48 am
&#039;Look, whether or not the Lori Drew prosecution was properly drawn and conducted in law is one thing. Quite another is taking the position that driving a vulnerable child into mental instability and suicide is a civil matter rather than a crime.&#039;

you&#039;re opening a huge can of worms here... while despicable, this girl had issues that could&#039;ve been triggered by many different things. My daughter went to school with her and there&#039;s much more to this girl than being harassed by a dumbass neighbor.

this is just stupidity. no crime here, move along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 |  seeker6079 |  July 4th, 2009 at 11:48 am<br />
&#8216;Look, whether or not the Lori Drew prosecution was properly drawn and conducted in law is one thing. Quite another is taking the position that driving a vulnerable child into mental instability and suicide is a civil matter rather than a crime.&#8217;</p>
<p>you&#8217;re opening a huge can of worms here&#8230; while despicable, this girl had issues that could&#8217;ve been triggered by many different things. My daughter went to school with her and there&#8217;s much more to this girl than being harassed by a dumbass neighbor.</p>
<p>this is just stupidity. no crime here, move along.</p>
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		<title>By: Max D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best burger I ever had was a bacon double cheeseburger at My New Place in 29 Palms, California, my first weekend back from Desert Storm. It was so good, I immediately ordered (and ate) another one. I was reasonably drunk, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best burger I ever had was a bacon double cheeseburger at My New Place in 29 Palms, California, my first weekend back from Desert Storm. It was so good, I immediately ordered (and ate) another one. I was reasonably drunk, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Toastrider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toastrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flogging, perhaps, Chalicechick? Maybe the stocks? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flogging, perhaps, Chalicechick? Maybe the stocks? :D</p>
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		<title>By: anarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>anarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob #6, not ratting out rogue colleagues: Priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob #6, not ratting out rogue colleagues: Priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Chalicechick</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/07/03/your-no-ones-reading-because-its-a-holiday-weekend-links/comment-page-1/#comment-312278</link>
		<dc:creator>Chalicechick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could live with there being laws against impersonating someone else online, but even that wouldn&#039;t punish people for doing what Lori Drew did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could live with there being laws against impersonating someone else online, but even that wouldn&#8217;t punish people for doing what Lori Drew did.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@38

Well unless you mean crime in the moral sense instead of the legal one, but given the context, it&#039;s clear we are talking about the legal sense here. 

And in that sense you are, sad though it might be, wrong.  If you look, they prosecuted her for violating the terms and conditions of myspace and committing internet fraud (or something along those lines).  So they didn&#039;t even have a crime that they could trumpt his up to fit into.  Whether someone should write a law making the specific harrassment of a minor where the harasser should reasonably know that it would cause significant emotional trauma a crime, is a different debate than whether it is, in fact (meaning under current existing law, a crime.  

At civil law there is a cause of action called &quot;Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress.&quot;  Doesn&#039;t that seem like exactly what happened here?  So really this is exactly a civil matter, because thats the only body of law that has seemed to address this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@38</p>
<p>Well unless you mean crime in the moral sense instead of the legal one, but given the context, it&#8217;s clear we are talking about the legal sense here. </p>
<p>And in that sense you are, sad though it might be, wrong.  If you look, they prosecuted her for violating the terms and conditions of myspace and committing internet fraud (or something along those lines).  So they didn&#8217;t even have a crime that they could trumpt his up to fit into.  Whether someone should write a law making the specific harrassment of a minor where the harasser should reasonably know that it would cause significant emotional trauma a crime, is a different debate than whether it is, in fact (meaning under current existing law, a crime.  </p>
<p>At civil law there is a cause of action called &#8220;Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress.&#8221;  Doesn&#8217;t that seem like exactly what happened here?  So really this is exactly a civil matter, because thats the only body of law that has seemed to address this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the objection is that the word &quot;tazed&quot; is  too
euphemistic  to describe the action of using electricity
to immobilize or subdue someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the objection is that the word &#8220;tazed&#8221; is  too<br />
euphemistic  to describe the action of using electricity<br />
to immobilize or subdue someone.</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fatted Calf is awesome.  The ordering process is a strange ritual that&#039;s not easy to figure out.  It is dark, but not dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fatted Calf is awesome.  The ordering process is a strange ritual that&#8217;s not easy to figure out.  It is dark, but not dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using the word &quot;Tazed&quot; gives specificity to the action that occurred, so that a reader is aware we aren&#039;t discussing someone that accidentally grabbed a downed wired during a rainstorm, or was strapped into an electric chair.

Words matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using the word &#8220;Tazed&#8221; gives specificity to the action that occurred, so that a reader is aware we aren&#8217;t discussing someone that accidentally grabbed a downed wired during a rainstorm, or was strapped into an electric chair.</p>
<p>Words matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop calling it “Tazed” or “Tazered.” 

Call it what it is: electrocution.

---
I said this  on here once and someone corrected me.
Electrocution is killing  someone with electricity.
Dictionary seems to support this.
But that leaves a gaping  whole in the English
language that there is no word for electrically injuring someone
as punishment or to get them to comply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop calling it “Tazed” or “Tazered.” </p>
<p>Call it what it is: electrocution.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
I said this  on here once and someone corrected me.<br />
Electrocution is killing  someone with electricity.<br />
Dictionary seems to support this.<br />
But that leaves a gaping  whole in the English<br />
language that there is no word for electrically injuring someone<br />
as punishment or to get them to comply.</p>
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		<title>By: thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megan Meier would get more support if she was a dead golden retriever.</description>
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		<title>By: Chalicechick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chalicechick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother is a complete asshole to cops because he has issues with authority.   He will call them all kinds of names and sass them even when they are being reasonable. 

One time, he got a ticket and the officer wrote the wrong court date on it (it was a Sunday) and he entered the police station yelling 

&quot;Officer _________ is an idiot.  He can&#039;t even write a fucking ticket.&quot;

He tells this story with great enthusiasm.  It&#039;s hilarious to him. 

Should the cops, as public servents, just take it like a similarly-treated fast food worker should?  Yeah.  

But I do wonder if my brother&#039;s behavior is making incidents like this MORE likely because if I had to pull over people like my brother, I&#039;d probably turn into a mean SOB too. 

CC
who wouldn&#039;t exactly cry if some cop punched her brother though she recognizes it would be wrong.  But the only revenge I&#039;ve seen the cops have is to be very quick to pull him over for minor infractions, and to detail his behavior with drama and enthusiasm whenever a cop is asked in court how my brother behaved at the traffic stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother is a complete asshole to cops because he has issues with authority.   He will call them all kinds of names and sass them even when they are being reasonable. </p>
<p>One time, he got a ticket and the officer wrote the wrong court date on it (it was a Sunday) and he entered the police station yelling </p>
<p>&#8220;Officer _________ is an idiot.  He can&#8217;t even write a fucking ticket.&#8221;</p>
<p>He tells this story with great enthusiasm.  It&#8217;s hilarious to him. </p>
<p>Should the cops, as public servents, just take it like a similarly-treated fast food worker should?  Yeah.  </p>
<p>But I do wonder if my brother&#8217;s behavior is making incidents like this MORE likely because if I had to pull over people like my brother, I&#8217;d probably turn into a mean SOB too. </p>
<p>CC<br />
who wouldn&#8217;t exactly cry if some cop punched her brother though she recognizes it would be wrong.  But the only revenge I&#8217;ve seen the cops have is to be very quick to pull him over for minor infractions, and to detail his behavior with drama and enthusiasm whenever a cop is asked in court how my brother behaved at the traffic stop.</p>
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		<title>By: seeker6079</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker6079</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, whether or not the Lori Drew prosecution was properly drawn and conducted in law is one thing.  Quite another is taking the position that driving a vulnerable child into mental instability and suicide is a civil matter rather than a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, whether or not the Lori Drew prosecution was properly drawn and conducted in law is one thing.  Quite another is taking the position that driving a vulnerable child into mental instability and suicide is a civil matter rather than a crime.</p>
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