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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-305358</link>
		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>200,000 teenagers under 18 are in US prisons, most first time offenders involved with drugs.</description>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-305357</link>
		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51, teenagers get prison time.

The Chicago cop story is not at all surprising, the only thing surprising is that Daley didn&#039;t show up as a character witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51, teenagers get prison time.</p>
<p>The Chicago cop story is not at all surprising, the only thing surprising is that Daley didn&#8217;t show up as a character witness.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspasia</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-304161</link>
		<dc:creator>Aspasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Judge Fleming&#039;s logic, all jails (as well as the law) should be dissolved.

And the Boys (and girls) in Blue wonder why the public hates them so much? At least this woman got a trial. There are tons of innocent victims of police brutality who don&#039;t even get that because they&#039;re not white or, as I know from my activist work, sex workers or other sexual &quot;outlaws&quot; who society deems as &quot;less-than-worthy&quot; for justice anyway. Transpeople especially have an extremely difficult time pursuing similar cases of police brutality.

I live in Chicago, so I&#039;m at the mercy of these brutes. I think I need to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Judge Fleming&#8217;s logic, all jails (as well as the law) should be dissolved.</p>
<p>And the Boys (and girls) in Blue wonder why the public hates them so much? At least this woman got a trial. There are tons of innocent victims of police brutality who don&#8217;t even get that because they&#8217;re not white or, as I know from my activist work, sex workers or other sexual &#8220;outlaws&#8221; who society deems as &#8220;less-than-worthy&#8221; for justice anyway. Transpeople especially have an extremely difficult time pursuing similar cases of police brutality.</p>
<p>I live in Chicago, so I&#8217;m at the mercy of these brutes. I think I need to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-304125</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t probation the benchmark now for any first-time assault and battery offender?

&quot;Your honor, I cite the case of Abbate.  My client deserves probation just like Abbate got.&quot;

Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t probation the benchmark now for any first-time assault and battery offender?</p>
<p>&#8220;Your honor, I cite the case of Abbate.  My client deserves probation just like Abbate got.&#8221;</p>
<p>Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: t. reed</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-304055</link>
		<dc:creator>t. reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you like your BK sandwich with cheese or circumcised?</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 #18

This is why whenever a police levy comes up for a vote during the election I always vote &quot;NO&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 #18</p>
<p>This is why whenever a police levy comes up for a vote during the election I always vote &#8220;NO&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-2/#comment-304024</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who doesn&#039;t believe that a police badge is a patent of nobility de facto and de jure needs to get their head out of their ass.

Two years probation and 130 hours CS?  And a curfew?  This wasn&#039;t a fucking teenager, this was a drunk cop with a gun in a steroid-induced rage who beat up a woman half his size.  This is pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe that a police badge is a patent of nobility de facto and de jure needs to get their head out of their ass.</p>
<p>Two years probation and 130 hours CS?  And a curfew?  This wasn&#8217;t a fucking teenager, this was a drunk cop with a gun in a steroid-induced rage who beat up a woman half his size.  This is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rune</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303991</link>
		<dc:creator>Rune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left this comment at the cop blog:

&quot;Brave brave you for only letting assenting voices comment. Brave brave you. I guess it&#039;s the spirit of the FBPO who, regardless of &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; weak excuse for condemnation, did not condemn Abatte. Also: “And any civilians or media types looking to start shit…&quot; really shows that htere is a disconnect from how you view yourselfs as above and apart from the general population - dangerous dangeraous way of thinking.&quot;

I don&#039;t expect it to be published though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left this comment at the cop blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;Brave brave you for only letting assenting voices comment. Brave brave you. I guess it&#8217;s the spirit of the FBPO who, regardless of <i>your</i> weak excuse for condemnation, did not condemn Abatte. Also: “And any civilians or media types looking to start shit…&#8221; really shows that htere is a disconnect from how you view yourselfs as above and apart from the general population &#8211; dangerous dangeraous way of thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect it to be published though.</p>
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		<title>By: fwb</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303990</link>
		<dc:creator>fwb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he’s a power-hungry career politician&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Aren&#039;t they all?  Isn&#039;t that the problem with politics?  

Tiocfaidh ar la!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he’s a power-hungry career politician</p></blockquote>
<p>Aren&#8217;t they all?  Isn&#8217;t that the problem with politics?  </p>
<p>Tiocfaidh ar la!</p>
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		<title>By: nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim C, Obama still &quot;occasionally&quot; smokes, apparently. He is a Marlboro Red man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim C, Obama still &#8220;occasionally&#8221; smokes, apparently. He is a Marlboro Red man.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303933</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#36    colson 

@Dave Krueger on digital: sweet. I’m guessing you prefer music on vinyl too? :D

I still wish I could pick up Polaroid film.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I still have quite a library of vinyl, but it&#039;s just what I had before CDs were invented.

I have some Polaroid in my film fridge.  I also have one of the little coating thingies, so I can pop it open and take a nostalgic sniff now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#36    colson </p>
<p>@Dave Krueger on digital: sweet. I’m guessing you prefer music on vinyl too? :D</p>
<p>I still wish I could pick up Polaroid film.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I still have quite a library of vinyl, but it&#8217;s just what I had before CDs were invented.</p>
<p>I have some Polaroid in my film fridge.  I also have one of the little coating thingies, so I can pop it open and take a nostalgic sniff now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobacco - does Obama still smoke?  If so, what&#039;s his brand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobacco &#8211; does Obama still smoke?  If so, what&#8217;s his brand?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303911</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#36    thomasblair 

Kodachrome has stopped production recently. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sad.  I heard that yesterday.  It&#039;s like your old grandfather that you expect to pass away any day, but are still a little stunned when it finally happens.  Another little milestone that draws a line between past and future.

I compare shooting film to wood working.  People don&#039;t do it just because they like the furniture.  They also do it because of the enjoyment they get from working with the tools and handling the materials.  I&#039;ll switch to digital when they make it smell like fixer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#36    thomasblair </p>
<p>Kodachrome has stopped production recently. </p></blockquote>
<p>Sad.  I heard that yesterday.  It&#8217;s like your old grandfather that you expect to pass away any day, but are still a little stunned when it finally happens.  Another little milestone that draws a line between past and future.</p>
<p>I compare shooting film to wood working.  People don&#8217;t do it just because they like the furniture.  They also do it because of the enjoyment they get from working with the tools and handling the materials.  I&#8217;ll switch to digital when they make it smell like fixer.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303910</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mattocracy # 42

I think it is more that the police still have the &quot;hero&quot; halo. Attacking the police tends to marginalize a politician in the eyes of the general public, so the pols are happy to play along with the &quot;boys in blue.&quot;

A cop would have to get caught running a pedophile prostitution ring before his &#039;fellow officers&#039; would turn on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mattocracy # 42</p>
<p>I think it is more that the police still have the &#8220;hero&#8221; halo. Attacking the police tends to marginalize a politician in the eyes of the general public, so the pols are happy to play along with the &#8220;boys in blue.&#8221;</p>
<p>A cop would have to get caught running a pedophile prostitution ring before his &#8216;fellow officers&#8217; would turn on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303906</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
#41 &#124;  J sub D &#124;  June 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm 


.... I’ll just leave it at that because I’m too angry to post without descending into an obscenity filled rant.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Descend! Descend!

;)</description>
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#41 |  J sub D |  June 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pm </p>
<p>&#8230;. I’ll just leave it at that because I’m too angry to post without descending into an obscenity filled rant.</p>
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<p>Descend! Descend!</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303903</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to sound like I&#039;m pro law enforcement (far from it), but a few of the comments on the Second City Cop blog made some good points.  Specifically, cops get away with this shit because judges and lawmakers allow them to.  The bottom line is, if Mayor Daley, members of the city council, and judges actually thought they would get voted out of office for not controlling the police department, they might hold cops accountable.  

But as so many of these cops know ( evident from the comments on the blog), these elected assholes are corrupt as shit and law enforcement is told to give them a free pass on everything from speeding tickets to drug possession and more.  Getting cops in line means getting local politicians in line first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to sound like I&#8217;m pro law enforcement (far from it), but a few of the comments on the Second City Cop blog made some good points.  Specifically, cops get away with this shit because judges and lawmakers allow them to.  The bottom line is, if Mayor Daley, members of the city council, and judges actually thought they would get voted out of office for not controlling the police department, they might hold cops accountable.  </p>
<p>But as so many of these cops know ( evident from the comments on the blog), these elected assholes are corrupt as shit and law enforcement is told to give them a free pass on everything from speeding tickets to drug possession and more.  Getting cops in line means getting local politicians in line first.</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303902</link>
		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Judge John Fleming said he decided against jail because he did not believe the crime was serious enough and throwing Abbate behind bars would not be a deterrent to others.

&quot;If I believed that sending Anthony Abbate to prison would stop people from getting drunk and hitting other people, I&#039;d sentence him to the maximum,&quot; the judge said. &quot;But I don&#039;t believe that is the case.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Grrrrrr!!!!  To think I used to respect the justice system.  I&#039;ll just leave it at that because I&#039;m too angry to post without descending into an obscenity filled rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Judge John Fleming said he decided against jail because he did not believe the crime was serious enough and throwing Abbate behind bars would not be a deterrent to others.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I believed that sending Anthony Abbate to prison would stop people from getting drunk and hitting other people, I&#8217;d sentence him to the maximum,&#8221; the judge said. &#8220;But I don&#8217;t believe that is the case.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Grrrrrr!!!!  To think I used to respect the justice system.  I&#8217;ll just leave it at that because I&#8217;m too angry to post without descending into an obscenity filled rant.</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/24/morning-links-209/comment-page-1/#comment-303896</link>
		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“When I ran for president,” Obama said Monday as he signed the Philip Morris-championed bill, “I did so because I believed that despite the power of the status quo and the influence of special interests, it was possible for us to bring change to Washington.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama is a lying career politician (I&#039;m aware of the redundancy).  He thinks the American people are too stupid to see through his high minded (and dishonest) rhetoric and actually discern what he is doing.

He may be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“When I ran for president,” Obama said Monday as he signed the Philip Morris-championed bill, “I did so because I believed that despite the power of the status quo and the influence of special interests, it was possible for us to bring change to Washington.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama is a lying career politician (I&#8217;m aware of the redundancy).  He thinks the American people are too stupid to see through his high minded (and dishonest) rhetoric and actually discern what he is doing.</p>
<p>He may be right.</p>
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		<title>By: ClubMedSux</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClubMedSux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...I bet there is some city funded insurance that will pay the cost...&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, it&#039;s called me and Windypundit and every other taxpayer in the Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;I bet there is some city funded insurance that will pay the cost&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s called me and Windypundit and every other taxpayer in the Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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#25 &#124;  LOLcat &#124;  June 24th, 2009 at 10:41 am 
Sue that cop for everything hes got. Horrible people should have horrible lives…
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.

However, I bet there is some city funded insurance that will pay the cost so that the cop doesn&#039;t have to.

:(</description>
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#25 |  LOLcat |  June 24th, 2009 at 10:41 am<br />
Sue that cop for everything hes got. Horrible people should have horrible lives…
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<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>However, I bet there is some city funded insurance that will pay the cost so that the cop doesn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>:(</p>
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