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	<title>Comments on: Feds Hot on the Trail of a Dead Parolee</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: CJL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things could always be worse...he could still also be on the city payroll...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011802298.html?sub=AR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things could always be worse&#8230;he could still also be on the city payroll&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011802298.html?sub=AR" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011802298.html?sub=AR</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aspasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“They said they were trying to get in touch with him because he’d been violating parole and they needed a number for him,” said Maria Watson, Hawkins’s younger sister. “I said, ‘Well, you can call 1-800-G-O-D.’ “&quot;

Good thing she isn&#039;t a 72-year-old woman with a moving violation. She would&#039;ve been tasered for that smart ass reply.

&quot;You see, that’s why the police can’t find him… he was cremated.

If the family had only buried him with his ankle monitor, the police might have had a chance.&quot;

That ankle monitor would look mighty handsome around the neck of an urn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“They said they were trying to get in touch with him because he’d been violating parole and they needed a number for him,” said Maria Watson, Hawkins’s younger sister. “I said, ‘Well, you can call 1-800-G-O-D.’ “&#8221;</p>
<p>Good thing she isn&#8217;t a 72-year-old woman with a moving violation. She would&#8217;ve been tasered for that smart ass reply.</p>
<p>&#8220;You see, that’s why the police can’t find him… he was cremated.</p>
<p>If the family had only buried him with his ankle monitor, the police might have had a chance.&#8221;</p>
<p>That ankle monitor would look mighty handsome around the neck of an urn.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, Mathew Peck:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
I’m particularly fond of the fact that the acronym doesn’t even work.
There’s no “T” following the only possible “R” in “Supervision and Management Automated Recording”. Talk about your severe case of cluster-fail.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can make it work:
Supervision and Management Automated Recording... Thing.

I are smar! I come up with acro... acr...  fake word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, Mathew Peck:</p>
<blockquote><p>
I’m particularly fond of the fact that the acronym doesn’t even work.<br />
There’s no “T” following the only possible “R” in “Supervision and Management Automated Recording”. Talk about your severe case of cluster-fail.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I can make it work:<br />
Supervision and Management Automated Recording&#8230; Thing.</p>
<p>I are smar! I come up with acro&#8230; acr&#8230;  fake word!</p>
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		<title>By: Zargon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was the family, I think I&#039;d start making shit up.

&quot;Yeah yeah, I talked to him last week.  He said he was in Oregon, but heading down to California.... No, he didn&#039;t say where he was going, but he did mention that he stopped by a &quot;Joe&#039;s Diner&quot;.... Sure, I&#039;ll let you know if I hear from him again&quot;.

Of course, they&#039;d probably throw me in a cage for interfering with an active investigation after they figured out he&#039;s dead.

---

As yes, government waste is annoying, but the alternative is government efficiency, which is downright terrifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was the family, I think I&#8217;d start making shit up.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah yeah, I talked to him last week.  He said he was in Oregon, but heading down to California&#8230;. No, he didn&#8217;t say where he was going, but he did mention that he stopped by a &#8220;Joe&#8217;s Diner&#8221;&#8230;. Sure, I&#8217;ll let you know if I hear from him again&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course, they&#8217;d probably throw me in a cage for interfering with an active investigation after they figured out he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>As yes, government waste is annoying, but the alternative is government efficiency, which is downright terrifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are conflicting goals: if government became more streamlined and efficient, it would waste less of our time and money, but could also do evil things more broadly and effectively.  Regarding the subject article, while I oppose something like &quot;total information awareness,&quot; I wouldn&#039;t mind if a parolee database could actually be kept up to date so the government is not harassing this guy&#039;s family after he dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are conflicting goals: if government became more streamlined and efficient, it would waste less of our time and money, but could also do evil things more broadly and effectively.  Regarding the subject article, while I oppose something like &#8220;total information awareness,&#8221; I wouldn&#8217;t mind if a parolee database could actually be kept up to date so the government is not harassing this guy&#8217;s family after he dies.</p>
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		<title>By: billy-jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy-jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and when I finish laughing, I find that I&#039;m a little depressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and when I finish laughing, I find that I&#8217;m a little depressed.</p>
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		<title>By: billy-jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy-jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, chance &amp; seeker6079, the family has been called repeatedly and they have a death certificate and cremation certificate. It&#039;s inexcusable that nobody from the parole office has followed up on that.

Further, you may think it&#039;s daft to mock a govt for not being able to do what I don&#039;t want it to do, but you&#039;re missing the point: I&#039;m laughing at them because they can&#039;t do what they say they--and only they--can do. Screw them. I laugh at their incompetence and arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, chance &amp; seeker6079, the family has been called repeatedly and they have a death certificate and cremation certificate. It&#8217;s inexcusable that nobody from the parole office has followed up on that.</p>
<p>Further, you may think it&#8217;s daft to mock a govt for not being able to do what I don&#8217;t want it to do, but you&#8217;re missing the point: I&#8217;m laughing at them because they can&#8217;t do what they say they&#8211;and only they&#8211;can do. Screw them. I laugh at their incompetence and arrogance.</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeker6079, while it is true that they should not take the families word for it, they could easily check it out, and confirm the facts.

I disagree with your view of tracking it&#039;s citizens, as you have stated it here. I do not believe they should track just any citizen, but convicted murderers, sexual predators, kidnappers, or politicians that is another story.

They are as &quot;parolees&quot; not in prison for the crimes of which they were convicted, but as such have not paid for said crimes yet. I see nothing wrong with them reporting to an officer assigned to watch over them.

I believe few on here would think that no one should be punished when they have committed a crime.  Many of us feel that personal choices such as no seat belt, intoxicant ingestion, no motorcycle helmet are not crimes against anyone. Murder, theft, or feeling the ass of a 10 year old is a crime, and punishment should be given.

The fact the state says we&#039;ll let you out of prison early, but we will still watch you till your time is served, to me is simply a less severe punishment.

I know I will hear that innocent people are convicted, and I agree with that statement, but I do believe many more guilty are convicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeker6079, while it is true that they should not take the families word for it, they could easily check it out, and confirm the facts.</p>
<p>I disagree with your view of tracking it&#8217;s citizens, as you have stated it here. I do not believe they should track just any citizen, but convicted murderers, sexual predators, kidnappers, or politicians that is another story.</p>
<p>They are as &#8220;parolees&#8221; not in prison for the crimes of which they were convicted, but as such have not paid for said crimes yet. I see nothing wrong with them reporting to an officer assigned to watch over them.</p>
<p>I believe few on here would think that no one should be punished when they have committed a crime.  Many of us feel that personal choices such as no seat belt, intoxicant ingestion, no motorcycle helmet are not crimes against anyone. Murder, theft, or feeling the ass of a 10 year old is a crime, and punishment should be given.</p>
<p>The fact the state says we&#8217;ll let you out of prison early, but we will still watch you till your time is served, to me is simply a less severe punishment.</p>
<p>I know I will hear that innocent people are convicted, and I agree with that statement, but I do believe many more guilty are convicted.</p>
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		<title>By: seeker6079</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker6079</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chance at 10 has it nailed:

This is a libertarian blog.  The posters here are generally against giving the government money to do anything because they are philosophically disinclined to expand or assist its powers, either in theory or in practice.  Further, they are almost always against the increasing sophistication and interlinking of government means of tracking its citizens, concerned, quite rightly, that this bodes ill for personal liberty.

Those points made, don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a bit daft to mock the fact that the government can&#039;t do what you don&#039;t want it to do?  They can&#039;t link their outdated systems to perform a simple cross-check.  Yay, so far as most of the posters here are concerned: you don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; it to have the authority or resources to do that sort of thing.

And double ding ding ding on this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I wouldn’t take the families word for it either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
C&#039;mon, folks, criminals&#039; families lie for them &lt;i&gt;all the time&lt;/i&gt;.  We are talking about a murderer here.  If I was a cop (oooh!  new moustache!)  I wouldn&#039;t believe their word ... or even that the right person was cremated ... either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chance at 10 has it nailed:</p>
<p>This is a libertarian blog.  The posters here are generally against giving the government money to do anything because they are philosophically disinclined to expand or assist its powers, either in theory or in practice.  Further, they are almost always against the increasing sophistication and interlinking of government means of tracking its citizens, concerned, quite rightly, that this bodes ill for personal liberty.</p>
<p>Those points made, don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a bit daft to mock the fact that the government can&#8217;t do what you don&#8217;t want it to do?  They can&#8217;t link their outdated systems to perform a simple cross-check.  Yay, so far as most of the posters here are concerned: you don&#8217;t <i>want</i> it to have the authority or resources to do that sort of thing.</p>
<p>And double ding ding ding on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I wouldn’t take the families word for it either.</p></blockquote>
<p>C&#8217;mon, folks, criminals&#8217; families lie for them <i>all the time</i>.  We are talking about a murderer here.  If I was a cop (oooh!  new moustache!)  I wouldn&#8217;t believe their word &#8230; or even that the right person was cremated &#8230; either.</p>
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		<title>By: Judi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bet he&#039;s on the lam like Elis and Tupac! 

Sorry but Elvis has left the building!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bet he&#8217;s on the lam like Elis and Tupac! </p>
<p>Sorry but Elvis has left the building!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is only a ratio of 43 parolees to each parole officer, that should not be to difficult to keep track of...im just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is only a ratio of 43 parolees to each parole officer, that should not be to difficult to keep track of&#8230;im just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, the parole system has become so ungovernably burdened  with cases that it&#039;s at the point where we have to make a choice: streamline or die.  Here&#039;s an idea...keep those 800 dangerous fuckers in jail and save taxpayers the cost of ankle bracelets. Then we can let the nonviolent offenders out of the intrusive, Kafkaesque hell that is the parole system to resume their lives (they served their time, let that be the end of it).  

Why should taxpayers be billed for an inefficient, secondary, utterly redundant correctional system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, the parole system has become so ungovernably burdened  with cases that it&#8217;s at the point where we have to make a choice: streamline or die.  Here&#8217;s an idea&#8230;keep those 800 dangerous fuckers in jail and save taxpayers the cost of ankle bracelets. Then we can let the nonviolent offenders out of the intrusive, Kafkaesque hell that is the parole system to resume their lives (they served their time, let that be the end of it).  </p>
<p>Why should taxpayers be billed for an inefficient, secondary, utterly redundant correctional system?</p>
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		<title>By: chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an amusing story, but in all probability the database doesn&#039;t have the ability to connect up with other databases, such as those with the death certificate on file etc.  I wouldn&#039;t take the families word for it either.  A simple drive down to county records would solve the problem, so it&#039;s really about the parole officer either not having the time or inclination.  If there are 15K parolees I could see time being an issue.   I know a lot of people have this image of government officials with access to a ton of info on everyone, but the truth is that most of the data systems are old, unconnected to each other, and access to any particular system is strictly limited to a small group, regardless of how useful that might be.  Heck, I know a lot of places don&#039;t even have internet access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an amusing story, but in all probability the database doesn&#8217;t have the ability to connect up with other databases, such as those with the death certificate on file etc.  I wouldn&#8217;t take the families word for it either.  A simple drive down to county records would solve the problem, so it&#8217;s really about the parole officer either not having the time or inclination.  If there are 15K parolees I could see time being an issue.   I know a lot of people have this image of government officials with access to a ton of info on everyone, but the truth is that most of the data systems are old, unconnected to each other, and access to any particular system is strictly limited to a small group, regardless of how useful that might be.  Heck, I know a lot of places don&#8217;t even have internet access.</p>
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		<title>By: Calladus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calladus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, that&#039;s why the police can&#039;t find him... he was cremated.

If the family had only buried him with his ankle monitor, the police might have had a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, that&#8217;s why the police can&#8217;t find him&#8230; he was cremated.</p>
<p>If the family had only buried him with his ankle monitor, the police might have had a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m particularly fond of the fact that the acronym doesn&#039;t even work.
There&#039;s no &quot;T&quot; following the only possible &quot;R&quot; in &quot;Supervision and Management Automated Recording&quot;. Talk about your severe case of cluster-fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m particularly fond of the fact that the acronym doesn&#8217;t even work.<br />
There&#8217;s no &#8220;T&#8221; following the only possible &#8220;R&#8221; in &#8220;Supervision and Management Automated Recording&#8221;. Talk about your severe case of cluster-fail.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing that annoys me more than &quot;cute&quot; acronyms for systems or, worse, a law (see PATRIOT ACT).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing that annoys me more than &#8220;cute&#8221; acronyms for systems or, worse, a law (see PATRIOT ACT).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so smart, I am so smart, I am so smart, I am so smart, SMRT, I mean SMART.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so smart, I am so smart, I am so smart, I am so smart, SMRT, I mean SMART.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@claude: Six months after the fact?  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@claude: Six months after the fact?  :D</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think i know of a dog that could probably sniff him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think i know of a dog that could probably sniff him out.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertyTiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anarchism is the answer. I struggled with Constitutionalism, then minarchism for a while, believing that we needed the state for things like criminal justice. Ineptitude pervades every level of government. We&#039;d be much better shape by governing and policing ourselves through private and voluntary mechanisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anarchism is the answer. I struggled with Constitutionalism, then minarchism for a while, believing that we needed the state for things like criminal justice. Ineptitude pervades every level of government. We&#8217;d be much better shape by governing and policing ourselves through private and voluntary mechanisms.</p>
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