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		<title>By: Supreme Court Says Warrant Required for GPS Tracking &#124; The Agitator</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-2611742</link>
		<dc:creator>Supreme Court Says Warrant Required for GPS Tracking &#124; The Agitator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] think it&#8217;s probably time for me to concede that I was wrong about Sotomayor. (See here, here, here, and here.) Not only has she not been a liability in criminal justice cases, you could [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think it&#8217;s probably time for me to concede that I was wrong about Sotomayor. (See here, here, here, and here.) Not only has she not been a liability in criminal justice cases, you could [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Web Watch 06/08/09 – 06/14/09 &#171; EXECUTIVE WATCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Web Watch 06/08/09 – 06/14/09 &#171; EXECUTIVE WATCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Healy and Radley Balko worry that Sonia Sotomayor defers too often to government at the expense of private liberties.  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Healy and Radley Balko worry that Sonia Sotomayor defers too often to government at the expense of private liberties.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292672</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From today&#039;s NY Times -

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10dna.html

It&#039;s yet another case of an innocent guy jailed (he&#039;s free now, after 16 years..) having an appeal denied.

“We have considered all of petitioner-appellant’s arguments and find them to be without merit,” the ruling said.

This cost the guy another six years of his life...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From today&#8217;s NY Times -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10dna.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10dna.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s yet another case of an innocent guy jailed (he&#8217;s free now, after 16 years..) having an appeal denied.</p>
<p>“We have considered all of petitioner-appellant’s arguments and find them to be without merit,” the ruling said.</p>
<p>This cost the guy another six years of his life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292626</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, she at least has one decent forfeiture decision - see &lt;i&gt;Krimstock v. Kelly&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, she at least has one decent forfeiture decision &#8211; see <i>Krimstock v. Kelly</i></p>
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		<title>By: nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292609</link>
		<dc:creator>nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take it Sotomayor is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; a member of the Federalist Society - that supplied so many &lt;i&gt;anti&lt;/i&gt;-federalist rulings (such as &lt;i&gt;Raich/Monson&lt;/i&gt;) - that would have returned many of the powers usurped by the FedGuv back to the States...in direct contravention of the FS&#039;s stated goals. 

The majority of those warming their arses on SCOTUS benches are Statists on the Right. Sotomayer looks and sounds like a Statist from the Left. The SCOTUS is nothing but Statists  One side uses Vaseline, the other KY jelly, but they &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;both&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; use sawed-off broom handles. So what&#039;s the big deal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it Sotomayor is <b>not</b> a member of the Federalist Society &#8211; that supplied so many <i>anti</i>-federalist rulings (such as <i>Raich/Monson</i>) &#8211; that would have returned many of the powers usurped by the FedGuv back to the States&#8230;in direct contravention of the FS&#8217;s stated goals. </p>
<p>The majority of those warming their arses on SCOTUS benches are Statists on the Right. Sotomayer looks and sounds like a Statist from the Left. The SCOTUS is nothing but Statists  One side uses Vaseline, the other KY jelly, but they <i><b>both</b></i> use sawed-off broom handles. So what&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Ignorantia Juris - The House Always Wins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignorantia Juris - The House Always Wins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Radley Balko: She’ll be a reliable vote to uphold government power, be it for cops, prosecutors, regulatory agencies, or the executive. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Radley Balko: She’ll be a reliable vote to uphold government power, be it for cops, prosecutors, regulatory agencies, or the executive. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another boot stomping the face forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another boot stomping the face forever.</p>
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		<title>By: ktc2</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anytime law enforcement groups endorse a judge they should be removed from office immediately. It&#039;s like having your chicken coop endorsed by the fox.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime law enforcement groups endorse a judge they should be removed from office immediately. It&#8217;s like having your chicken coop endorsed by the fox.</p>
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		<title>By: Currence</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292321</link>
		<dc:creator>Currence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are conservatives and liberals who are authoritarians and those who are not (broadly speaking of course).  Any attempt by a liberal or a conservative to make this the problem entirely of the other camp (&quot;all liberals...&quot;, &quot;all conservatives...&quot;) are doing a disservice to liberty and playing into the authoritarians&#039; hands.

Disappointments all around.  I&#039;m disappointed (but not surprised): that the Dems would nominate an authoritarian, that the opposition party Reps would spend most of their energy on inane bs (&#039;wise latina&#039;), and that, by and large, Dem-supporting/liberal blogs spend more time focusing on rebutting the inane Rep attacks instead of focusing on the essentials, like Radley is doing here.  Kudos, Radley; I&#039;m agitated.

(I don&#039;t know if there were any other, less authoritarian judges that Obama could have nominated, but, even if there weren&#039;t, that wouldn&#039;t make me any less agitated.)


@ James, #34:

There&#039;s a difference between wanting to always defend law and order, and wanting to always defend those who act under the color of law and order.  True justice requires that we are all equals under the law.  It requires that one acknowledge that police officers, legislators, judges, presidents, etc. are just as likely (that is, have the same incentives: greed, petty vengeance, power-lust, etc.) to violate the rights of others as everyone else.  The badge, the robes, the seat on capitol hill do not, by themselves, confer any legitimate authority: it is only one&#039;s actions and ability to live up to what the badge, the robes, and the seat represent.

But I agree with your first question/point:  those who seek out power are likely to be authoritarian in the first place.  Major drag, huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are conservatives and liberals who are authoritarians and those who are not (broadly speaking of course).  Any attempt by a liberal or a conservative to make this the problem entirely of the other camp (&#8220;all liberals&#8230;&#8221;, &#8220;all conservatives&#8230;&#8221;) are doing a disservice to liberty and playing into the authoritarians&#8217; hands.</p>
<p>Disappointments all around.  I&#8217;m disappointed (but not surprised): that the Dems would nominate an authoritarian, that the opposition party Reps would spend most of their energy on inane bs (&#8216;wise latina&#8217;), and that, by and large, Dem-supporting/liberal blogs spend more time focusing on rebutting the inane Rep attacks instead of focusing on the essentials, like Radley is doing here.  Kudos, Radley; I&#8217;m agitated.</p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t know if there were any other, less authoritarian judges that Obama could have nominated, but, even if there weren&#8217;t, that wouldn&#8217;t make me any less agitated.)</p>
<p>@ James, #34:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference between wanting to always defend law and order, and wanting to always defend those who act under the color of law and order.  True justice requires that we are all equals under the law.  It requires that one acknowledge that police officers, legislators, judges, presidents, etc. are just as likely (that is, have the same incentives: greed, petty vengeance, power-lust, etc.) to violate the rights of others as everyone else.  The badge, the robes, the seat on capitol hill do not, by themselves, confer any legitimate authority: it is only one&#8217;s actions and ability to live up to what the badge, the robes, and the seat represent.</p>
<p>But I agree with your first question/point:  those who seek out power are likely to be authoritarian in the first place.  Major drag, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t the kind of people attracted to being a Judge authoritarian to begin with? By hoping for someone who isn&#039;t law crazy aren&#039;t we hoping for the exception and not the rule?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t the kind of people attracted to being a Judge authoritarian to begin with? By hoping for someone who isn&#8217;t law crazy aren&#8217;t we hoping for the exception and not the rule?</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if there was even a shadow of a doubt about how screwed we are with this nominee.....

&quot;8 national law enforcement groups endorse Supreme Court nominee Sotomayor&quot;

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-sotomayor-endorsement,1,722490.story]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if there was even a shadow of a doubt about how screwed we are with this nominee&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;8 national law enforcement groups endorse Supreme Court nominee Sotomayor&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-sotomayor-endorsement,1,722490.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-sotomayor-endorsement,1,722490.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292263</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#18 &#124;  nemo

the difference I see- a &#039;virtual tar and feathering&#039; is powerful because it exposes the truth. I agree with the your contention of the dangers of misleading the public with propaganda, but I like to believe the truth is more powerful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18 |  nemo</p>
<p>the difference I see- a &#8216;virtual tar and feathering&#8217; is powerful because it exposes the truth. I agree with the your contention of the dangers of misleading the public with propaganda, but I like to believe the truth is more powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Dave Krueger,
I suspect from your comment either you’re a cop or you just escaped an asylum.&quot;

LOL!! Heres a tip... put your tounge in your cheek and then read his comments again. Itll work better that way. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dave Krueger,<br />
I suspect from your comment either you’re a cop or you just escaped an asylum.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL!! Heres a tip&#8230; put your tounge in your cheek and then read his comments again. Itll work better that way. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KT, I think you have to get to know Dave a little better.  I worry when he&#039;s NOT being sarcastic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KT, I think you have to get to know Dave a little better.  I worry when he&#8217;s NOT being sarcastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292250</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginger Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KT,

I&#039;m pretty sure Dave&#039;s comments were written with the sarcasm tags on full blast....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KT,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Dave&#8217;s comments were written with the sarcasm tags on full blast&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Krueger, 
                  I suspect from your comment either you&#039;re a cop or you just escaped an asylum. My father was a cop until he couldn&#039;t stomach it anymore. His fellow police habitually arrested workers homeward bound after cashing their checks at the tavern.The cops would roll their victims then release them. He found that intolerable. He used to say afterwards that you have to wash out as a pimp and a cab driver before you can be a cop. Which brings up the question, which one are you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Krueger,<br />
                  I suspect from your comment either you&#8217;re a cop or you just escaped an asylum. My father was a cop until he couldn&#8217;t stomach it anymore. His fellow police habitually arrested workers homeward bound after cashing their checks at the tavern.The cops would roll their victims then release them. He found that intolerable. He used to say afterwards that you have to wash out as a pimp and a cab driver before you can be a cop. Which brings up the question, which one are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #18 &#124;  nemo &#124;

I do agree with that comment, but keep in mind that plenty of conservatives call libertarians a bunch bed wetting liberals as well.  Both parties lump us in with the other in an attempt to marginalize both libertarians and the other mainstream party.

Ultimately, I think libertarians do a good job distinguishing ourselves from the other two parties.  But liberal and conservative bloggers/pundits have agendas.  They will always lie about libertarian principals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #18 |  nemo |</p>
<p>I do agree with that comment, but keep in mind that plenty of conservatives call libertarians a bunch bed wetting liberals as well.  Both parties lump us in with the other in an attempt to marginalize both libertarians and the other mainstream party.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think libertarians do a good job distinguishing ourselves from the other two parties.  But liberal and conservative bloggers/pundits have agendas.  They will always lie about libertarian principals.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292206</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Krueger is like the libertarian version of Scrappleface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Krueger is like the libertarian version of Scrappleface.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292191</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Yale educated appellate court judge who used to be a prosecutor? Way to think outside the box. Still, I&#039;d take Sotomayor over Edith Jones on the 5th.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Yale educated appellate court judge who used to be a prosecutor? Way to think outside the box. Still, I&#8217;d take Sotomayor over Edith Jones on the 5th.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/06/09/sotomayor-authoritarian/comment-page-1/#comment-292188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;#22    Whim

I would suspect that the number of Federal Judges whose background was limited primarily to Prosecuting Attorneys/DA’s far exceeds the numbers emanating from Public Defender/Defense Attorney ranks…..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s because defense attorneys are sleazy low-lifes who allow criminals to weasel their way out of doing time for their crimes by whining about how their so-called &quot;Constitutional rights&quot; were violated and other technicalities (like the exclusionary rule) that have nothing to do with guilt or innocence.

That&#039;s why so many cops feel they have no choice but to dispense justice on the spot.  Sure they kill or injure innocent people now and then, but it&#039;s you soft on crime people who leave them no choice.  Next time you see a story about a cop who accidentally killed the wrong person, go beat the crap out of your closest &quot;compassionate&quot; friend, because it&#039;s those milquetoasts who are responsible.  Not the cop.

All I hear around here is how many people are incarcerated in the U.S. compared to repressive totalitarian states.  Whine, whine, whine.  Sure we have a lot of people in prison.  That&#039;s because we have a tradition of knowing how to get the riffraff off the street.  In other words, we&#039;re a hell of a lot better at fighting crime than those other countries.  It&#039;s not something to apologize for.  It&#039;s a badge of honor.   But, the fact is that probably only half the people who belong in prison are actually there, thanks to those defense attorney&#039;s you talk so highly of.

The whole country would be a better place if we just skipped the trial phase of incarceration.  If a cop arrests you, the chances are 99.99999999% that you did it.   Everyone knows that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#22    Whim</p>
<p>I would suspect that the number of Federal Judges whose background was limited primarily to Prosecuting Attorneys/DA’s far exceeds the numbers emanating from Public Defender/Defense Attorney ranks…..</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s because defense attorneys are sleazy low-lifes who allow criminals to weasel their way out of doing time for their crimes by whining about how their so-called &#8220;Constitutional rights&#8221; were violated and other technicalities (like the exclusionary rule) that have nothing to do with guilt or innocence.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why so many cops feel they have no choice but to dispense justice on the spot.  Sure they kill or injure innocent people now and then, but it&#8217;s you soft on crime people who leave them no choice.  Next time you see a story about a cop who accidentally killed the wrong person, go beat the crap out of your closest &#8220;compassionate&#8221; friend, because it&#8217;s those milquetoasts who are responsible.  Not the cop.</p>
<p>All I hear around here is how many people are incarcerated in the U.S. compared to repressive totalitarian states.  Whine, whine, whine.  Sure we have a lot of people in prison.  That&#8217;s because we have a tradition of knowing how to get the riffraff off the street.  In other words, we&#8217;re a hell of a lot better at fighting crime than those other countries.  It&#8217;s not something to apologize for.  It&#8217;s a badge of honor.   But, the fact is that probably only half the people who belong in prison are actually there, thanks to those defense attorney&#8217;s you talk so highly of.</p>
<p>The whole country would be a better place if we just skipped the trial phase of incarceration.  If a cop arrests you, the chances are 99.99999999% that you did it.   Everyone knows that.</p>
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