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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280722</link>
		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt this judge is the type who much prefers the 13 year old on the front page in cuffs and jumpsuit not the congressman..  Laws aren&#039;t made for congressmen are they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt this judge is the type who much prefers the 13 year old on the front page in cuffs and jumpsuit not the congressman..  Laws aren&#8217;t made for congressmen are they?</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280531</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[does anyone else find it funny that Matt Yglesias, and other liberals are always the first to bitch and moan about income inequality, but then are always so keen to impose regressive taxes on them. obviously they only actually care about the poor people who don’t smoke, drink or eat junk food.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone else find it funny that Matt Yglesias, and other liberals are always the first to bitch and moan about income inequality, but then are always so keen to impose regressive taxes on them. obviously they only actually care about the poor people who don’t smoke, drink or eat junk food.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis_T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280483</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: the #31 comment. Looks Like I got it wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: the #31 comment. Looks Like I got it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis_T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280482</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the &quot;Colorado Springs&quot; thing it looks like the ACLU is involved.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/department-18502-complaints-officers.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the &#8220;Colorado Springs&#8221; thing it looks like the ACLU is involved.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gazette.com/articles/department-18502-complaints-officers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gazette.com/articles/department-18502-complaints-officers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280447</link>
		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[//As far as I know, in most states, you are not allowed to resist even an illegal arrest. Therefore you could be charged with resisting arrest even if they didn’t have a “real” charge.//

Does that apply to illegal arrests, or only wrongful ones?  A cop who reasonably believes probable cause exists to believe that someone committed some particular act which is, in fact, illegal may legitimately arrest the person; the arrest is lawful whether or not the person actually committed the crime.  On the other hand, a cop who does not reasonably believe such probable cause exists may not legitimately arrest a person.  Do states impose a duty to submit to such unlawful kidnapping?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//As far as I know, in most states, you are not allowed to resist even an illegal arrest. Therefore you could be charged with resisting arrest even if they didn’t have a “real” charge.//</p>
<p>Does that apply to illegal arrests, or only wrongful ones?  A cop who reasonably believes probable cause exists to believe that someone committed some particular act which is, in fact, illegal may legitimately arrest the person; the arrest is lawful whether or not the person actually committed the crime.  On the other hand, a cop who does not reasonably believe such probable cause exists may not legitimately arrest a person.  Do states impose a duty to submit to such unlawful kidnapping?</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280441</link>
		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Newsday should take every file photo they have of Judge Spatt and montage them onto a single page with the one photo of the legislator hidden in it.

Put a big caption: Forget Waldo! Where&#039;s Corbin?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Newsday should take every file photo they have of Judge Spatt and montage them onto a single page with the one photo of the legislator hidden in it.</p>
<p>Put a big caption: Forget Waldo! Where&#8217;s Corbin?</p>
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		<title>By: J sub D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280368</link>
		<dc:creator>J sub D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SJE is an honest commenter.

I think that&#039;s way cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJE is an honest commenter.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s way cool.</p>
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		<title>By: food</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280366</link>
		<dc:creator>food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get three weeks of paid vacation and bankable flex-time. Is the one week supposed to be shocking or sad?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get three weeks of paid vacation and bankable flex-time. Is the one week supposed to be shocking or sad?</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280356</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;why not tax booze based on alcohol content in tiers? &lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m already in tears over the taxes I pay.

;P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;why not tax booze based on alcohol content in tiers? </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m already in tears over the taxes I pay.</p>
<p>;P</p>
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		<title>By: Mojotron</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280330</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojotron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why not tax booze based on alcohol content in tiers?  

the concern shown here for the poor in regards to the unfair (theoretical) taxes on fortified wine is heartwarming.  Where will they get their health benefits from if they cannot afford to consume Mad Dog (in moderation of course)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not tax booze based on alcohol content in tiers?  </p>
<p>the concern shown here for the poor in regards to the unfair (theoretical) taxes on fortified wine is heartwarming.  Where will they get their health benefits from if they cannot afford to consume Mad Dog (in moderation of course)?</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280325</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JsubD, I stand corrected]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JsubD, I stand corrected</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280324</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#19  That&#039;s great that your company sets up Paid Time Off like that.  Mine does too.  But the point is, it was my company&#039;s CHOICE to do that.  No one forced them to.  Just like no one forced them to give me ANY paid vacation time.  And if I don&#039;t like it, I am free to look for employment elsewhere.  Getting the government involved will just guarantee that the four weeks of Paid Time Off I get today are reduced to one week &quot;to be fair to everyone else&quot;.

The day Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Code Pink) &quot;actually has a pretty good ide&quot; is the day winged primates emerge from my rectum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19  That&#8217;s great that your company sets up Paid Time Off like that.  Mine does too.  But the point is, it was my company&#8217;s CHOICE to do that.  No one forced them to.  Just like no one forced them to give me ANY paid vacation time.  And if I don&#8217;t like it, I am free to look for employment elsewhere.  Getting the government involved will just guarantee that the four weeks of Paid Time Off I get today are reduced to one week &#8220;to be fair to everyone else&#8221;.</p>
<p>The day Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Code Pink) &#8220;actually has a pretty good ide&#8221; is the day winged primates emerge from my rectum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280323</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But then people will go to Disney World and get exposed to the sun and get skin cancer.  The government will just have to regulate that now.  And people might drown at the beach causing short term, yet very high levels of stress just before death.  We can&#039;t have people going to the beach because we can&#039;t trust them not to die in an effort to have fun.  Then they won&#039;t be productive at all.  And their love ones will grieve and not be productive either.

The only option is outlaw having a good time because that is in the interest of the greater goods&#039; productivity.  It&#039;s greed of the employee really, and people&#039;s greed causes them to do short sighted things to harm others in the long run.

Wow, so this is the reasoning people use to justify pushing their morals on everyone.  Thanks Li, you have enlightened me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then people will go to Disney World and get exposed to the sun and get skin cancer.  The government will just have to regulate that now.  And people might drown at the beach causing short term, yet very high levels of stress just before death.  We can&#8217;t have people going to the beach because we can&#8217;t trust them not to die in an effort to have fun.  Then they won&#8217;t be productive at all.  And their love ones will grieve and not be productive either.</p>
<p>The only option is outlaw having a good time because that is in the interest of the greater goods&#8217; productivity.  It&#8217;s greed of the employee really, and people&#8217;s greed causes them to do short sighted things to harm others in the long run.</p>
<p>Wow, so this is the reasoning people use to justify pushing their morals on everyone.  Thanks Li, you have enlightened me.</p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280319</link>
		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh! I just realized the reason you posted that! It still hasn&#039;t sunk into you that people&#039;s greed can actually cause them to do short sighted things that hurt them and other people in the long run! 

You know, the derivatives/credit/confidence crisis, perhaps you should look into that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I just realized the reason you posted that! It still hasn&#8217;t sunk into you that people&#8217;s greed can actually cause them to do short sighted things that hurt them and other people in the long run! </p>
<p>You know, the derivatives/credit/confidence crisis, perhaps you should look into that.</p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280317</link>
		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of the evidence I have been exposed to suggests decent vacations (5 days or more) actually do increase productivity, and decrease illness. Reason being, that it relieves stress (the biggest killer, and one of the biggest contributors to the obesity problem), and gives people time to engage in sun soaked, healthy activities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the evidence I have been exposed to suggests decent vacations (5 days or more) actually do increase productivity, and decrease illness. Reason being, that it relieves stress (the biggest killer, and one of the biggest contributors to the obesity problem), and gives people time to engage in sun soaked, healthy activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280305</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the story about the federal judge (Spatt):

&quot;Spatt replied that as strong as the First Amendment protections are, they are not absolute.

They&#039;re only strong if the courts uphold them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the story about the federal judge (Spatt):</p>
<p>&#8220;Spatt replied that as strong as the First Amendment protections are, they are not absolute.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re only strong if the courts uphold them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That FL Congressman actually has a pretty good idea.  What he needs to do is to get away from calling it vacation.  Call it &quot;paid leave&quot;.  A company that I used to work for did this.  Instead of having 80 hours of vacation and 24 hours of sick time, each employee had 104 hours of paid leave in their first year.  This time was to cover vacation, illness, jury duty and personal issues.  The only requirement was that you had to request anything more than 8 hours in advance.  There was an allowance for sudden illness or injury but you had better have a Doctor&#039;s excuse. (With their medical insurance plan, saying that you couldn&#039;t afford a Doctor&#039;s visit wasn&#039;t an option.  They had a Company Doctor.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That FL Congressman actually has a pretty good idea.  What he needs to do is to get away from calling it vacation.  Call it &#8220;paid leave&#8221;.  A company that I used to work for did this.  Instead of having 80 hours of vacation and 24 hours of sick time, each employee had 104 hours of paid leave in their first year.  This time was to cover vacation, illness, jury duty and personal issues.  The only requirement was that you had to request anything more than 8 hours in advance.  There was an allowance for sudden illness or injury but you had better have a Doctor&#8217;s excuse. (With their medical insurance plan, saying that you couldn&#8217;t afford a Doctor&#8217;s visit wasn&#8217;t an option.  They had a Company Doctor.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in AL</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280290</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since at this point I see very little hope for this country returning to a nation that respects individual freedom, civil rights, property rights etc...I think I will just start rooting for optimum entertainment value.

For example, I rarely drink, so the tax does not effect me to any meaningful degree.  However, if history repeats itself, such a tax will create a lot more robberies.  That should be fun.  I think J sub D is right when he says this will effect the poor far more than the rich.  Shoplifting and liquor store robberies will skyrocket!  

In addition, people opting to home brew their liquor will go up as well.  Moonshining will become popular again.  The black market for tax free liquor will mean people not only make it for themselves but they are selling it.  It will be the new weed!

Only now, we will have Apache helicopters just lobbing missiles at stills from the air!  

Jumpin&#039; Jesus!  We will have the government giving Apache helicopters to local police departments! This is going to be great.

And I will get to watch it all from my couch.  At least until a SWAT team busts in and kills my wife and I because they came to Cranberry Street instead of Cranberry Circle.  But that&#039;s okay.  It will be deemed an honest mistake in which all the cops acted within departmental guidelines and a good American is willing to die so the government can get all their liquor taxes anyway.

America, F*ck Yeah!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since at this point I see very little hope for this country returning to a nation that respects individual freedom, civil rights, property rights etc&#8230;I think I will just start rooting for optimum entertainment value.</p>
<p>For example, I rarely drink, so the tax does not effect me to any meaningful degree.  However, if history repeats itself, such a tax will create a lot more robberies.  That should be fun.  I think J sub D is right when he says this will effect the poor far more than the rich.  Shoplifting and liquor store robberies will skyrocket!  </p>
<p>In addition, people opting to home brew their liquor will go up as well.  Moonshining will become popular again.  The black market for tax free liquor will mean people not only make it for themselves but they are selling it.  It will be the new weed!</p>
<p>Only now, we will have Apache helicopters just lobbing missiles at stills from the air!  </p>
<p>Jumpin&#8217; Jesus!  We will have the government giving Apache helicopters to local police departments! This is going to be great.</p>
<p>And I will get to watch it all from my couch.  At least until a SWAT team busts in and kills my wife and I because they came to Cranberry Street instead of Cranberry Circle.  But that&#8217;s okay.  It will be deemed an honest mistake in which all the cops acted within departmental guidelines and a good American is willing to die so the government can get all their liquor taxes anyway.</p>
<p>America, F*ck Yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280267</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I know, in most states, you are not allowed to resist even an illegal arrest.  Therefore you could be charged with resisting arrest even if they didn&#039;t have a &quot;real&quot; charge.

As for the alcohol thing, this is not as settled as that NY Times article would have you believe.  (http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/101/5/282).  There are many errors in these studies, and it&#039;s incomprehensibly difficult to control for the relevant factors.  Lastly, as Matt argues, this wouldn&#039;t hit moderate drinkers very hard.  It would hit heavy drinkers, and everyone agrees that heavy drinking is bad for you.  As for the regressive nature of it, all consumption taxes are regressive.  Tax revenue has to come from somewhere and this seems reasonable if the health effect of alcohol are negative (the short term effects certainly are, by the way.  It is the long term effects of a very narrow use of the drug that are in doubt here); we can&#039;t oppose EVERY form of tax collection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, in most states, you are not allowed to resist even an illegal arrest.  Therefore you could be charged with resisting arrest even if they didn&#8217;t have a &#8220;real&#8221; charge.</p>
<p>As for the alcohol thing, this is not as settled as that NY Times article would have you believe.  (<a href="http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/101/5/282" rel="nofollow">http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/101/5/282</a>).  There are many errors in these studies, and it&#8217;s incomprehensibly difficult to control for the relevant factors.  Lastly, as Matt argues, this wouldn&#8217;t hit moderate drinkers very hard.  It would hit heavy drinkers, and everyone agrees that heavy drinking is bad for you.  As for the regressive nature of it, all consumption taxes are regressive.  Tax revenue has to come from somewhere and this seems reasonable if the health effect of alcohol are negative (the short term effects certainly are, by the way.  It is the long term effects of a very narrow use of the drug that are in doubt here); we can&#8217;t oppose EVERY form of tax collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/21/morning-links-190/comment-page-1/#comment-280257</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is this federal judge in New York?  He thinks he can tell a newspaper not to publish photos, but it is not in his power to restrain prosecutors from attempts to prejudice the jury pool?  Who appointed this clown?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this federal judge in New York?  He thinks he can tell a newspaper not to publish photos, but it is not in his power to restrain prosecutors from attempts to prejudice the jury pool?  Who appointed this clown?</p>
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