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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Windy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277599</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#31 (rg) The answer to Carlin&#039;s question is we are still under the thumb of puritanical moral laws written by religious zealots that make no logical sense in a Constitutionally guaranteed &quot;free&quot; country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 (rg) The answer to Carlin&#8217;s question is we are still under the thumb of puritanical moral laws written by religious zealots that make no logical sense in a Constitutionally guaranteed &#8220;free&#8221; country.</p>
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		<title>By: random guy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277584</link>
		<dc:creator>random guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s like George Carlin said &quot;It&#039;s legal to sell stuff. It&#039;s legal to fuck. So why is it illegal to sell fucking?&quot;

Shortest summery of my stance on prostitution ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like George Carlin said &#8220;It&#8217;s legal to sell stuff. It&#8217;s legal to fuck. So why is it illegal to sell fucking?&#8221;</p>
<p>Shortest summery of my stance on prostitution ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277509</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be clear, I don&#039;t for one second expect that McCain would have made improvements in the way of individual rights (i.e., getting the government to stop squashing them so much).  He voted for TARP.  He co-authored McCain-Feingold.  I long ago decided that McCain voted with Democrats when he should have voted with the GOP on principle, but voted with Republicans when he should have broken ranks on principle.  Basically, the man had no principles.

Still, I doubt he would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://myweeklycrime.blogspot.com/2009/05/got-metaphor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chewing up $9.3 trillion&lt;/a&gt; in debts, with a hungry eye on medical insurance, and all the rest.  He would suck, but he wouldn&#039;t be on a hard push for more socialism, more socialism, more socialism.

In short, McCain wouldn&#039;t have been as bad to the average American, even if he was hypocritical with a nutty VP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, I don&#8217;t for one second expect that McCain would have made improvements in the way of individual rights (i.e., getting the government to stop squashing them so much).  He voted for TARP.  He co-authored McCain-Feingold.  I long ago decided that McCain voted with Democrats when he should have voted with the GOP on principle, but voted with Republicans when he should have broken ranks on principle.  Basically, the man had no principles.</p>
<p>Still, I doubt he would be <a href="http://myweeklycrime.blogspot.com/2009/05/got-metaphor.html" rel="nofollow">chewing up $9.3 trillion</a> in debts, with a hungry eye on medical insurance, and all the rest.  He would suck, but he wouldn&#8217;t be on a hard push for more socialism, more socialism, more socialism.</p>
<p>In short, McCain wouldn&#8217;t have been as bad to the average American, even if he was hypocritical with a nutty VP.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277502</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Obama: Still bad on the issues where we thought he’d be bad, and still bad on the issues where we expected better from him. Oh, and he’s also still breaking campaign promises.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Radley, what&#039;s this &quot;we&quot; nonsense? Some of us knew better, tried to tell you, and were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/06/here-are-my-biases&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kicked around by you&lt;/a&gt; for our trouble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Obama: Still bad on the issues where we thought he’d be bad, and still bad on the issues where we expected better from him. Oh, and he’s also still breaking campaign promises.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Radley, what&#8217;s this &#8220;we&#8221; nonsense? Some of us knew better, tried to tell you, and were <a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/06/here-are-my-biases" rel="nofollow">kicked around by you</a> for our trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: bcg</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277374</link>
		<dc:creator>bcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I don&#039;t like the current prostitution laws, prosecuting crimes is the job of the attorney general. Selective enforcement is a scary thing. Is he still selectively enforcing laws? Sure - but the problem is a legislative one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t like the current prostitution laws, prosecuting crimes is the job of the attorney general. Selective enforcement is a scary thing. Is he still selectively enforcing laws? Sure &#8211; but the problem is a legislative one.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277350</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t doubt that patients fear opiods. One of the greatest fears is an addiction that continues after the prescription has expired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that patients fear opiods. One of the greatest fears is an addiction that continues after the prescription has expired.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277303</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#23: Yes, IV morphine is very good stuff. Had it twice and it worked wonders.  I can see why people get hooked but, at the same time, it works so much better than anything else.  The govt, of course, waves the &quot;you might get addicted&quot; flag, forgetting the therapeutic benefits of morphine and other opioids.  

BTW: drugs with codeine were over the counter in a lot of countries, and it didnt seem to cause any major addiction problems compared to the people it helped.  e.g. cough suppressant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23: Yes, IV morphine is very good stuff. Had it twice and it worked wonders.  I can see why people get hooked but, at the same time, it works so much better than anything else.  The govt, of course, waves the &#8220;you might get addicted&#8221; flag, forgetting the therapeutic benefits of morphine and other opioids.  </p>
<p>BTW: drugs with codeine were over the counter in a lot of countries, and it didnt seem to cause any major addiction problems compared to the people it helped.  e.g. cough suppressant.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277294</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Krueger &quot;I can’t believe Yoo didn’t wind up on Fox News. Maybe he didn’t rise high enough on the public humiliation scale to qualify.&quot;

Or maybe he&#039;s not a hot blonde chick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Krueger &#8220;I can’t believe Yoo didn’t wind up on Fox News. Maybe he didn’t rise high enough on the public humiliation scale to qualify.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or maybe he&#8217;s not a hot blonde chick.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Finally, the “crushing the testicles of children of suspected terrorists” viewpoint has a platform!&quot;

Beautiful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Finally, the “crushing the testicles of children of suspected terrorists” viewpoint has a platform!&#8221;</p>
<p>Beautiful!</p>
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		<title>By: Hamburgler007</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277281</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamburgler007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#22, it is true that not all need to be mixed, such as your example, but in the US hydrocodone must be. 

ps IV morphine does wonders when you need it, I was glad I got it just after surgery when in the recovery room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22, it is true that not all need to be mixed, such as your example, but in the US hydrocodone must be. </p>
<p>ps IV morphine does wonders when you need it, I was glad I got it just after surgery when in the recovery room.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277271</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its not true that opiods HAVE to be mixed in the USA: you can get straight morphine, such as via injection.  (I have had it, and it really worked).  

With pills you also must consider not just the &quot;diversion&quot; issue, but also the practicalities of formulation.  You only need a tiny amount of pure opioid (e.g. 10 milligrams).  10mg is a spec of dust, and it would be easy to lose it, take too much etc.  You could sneeze and inhale an overdose.  Thus, to make a pill, you have to mix it into something else- why not add something that works with the opioid?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not true that opiods HAVE to be mixed in the USA: you can get straight morphine, such as via injection.  (I have had it, and it really worked).  </p>
<p>With pills you also must consider not just the &#8220;diversion&#8221; issue, but also the practicalities of formulation.  You only need a tiny amount of pure opioid (e.g. 10 milligrams).  10mg is a spec of dust, and it would be easy to lose it, take too much etc.  You could sneeze and inhale an overdose.  Thus, to make a pill, you have to mix it into something else- why not add something that works with the opioid?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nando, sheer speculation. Note the word &quot;presumably&quot;. Red flag indicating study is what I said it is -- junk science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nando, sheer speculation. Note the word &#8220;presumably&#8221;. Red flag indicating study is what I said it is &#8212; junk science.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277247</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Forever detainment&quot;!  Have a fucking trial already.  If you know enough to keep a man in prison for life, have the balls to go to trial.  Sackless bunch of panzies continue to inhabit the White House.  Sackless!!

@ Jozef #6
Thanks for the heads up!

Free Staters in NH know that the &quot;Live Free or Die&quot; motto is a bunch of hot air.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Forever detainment&#8221;!  Have a fucking trial already.  If you know enough to keep a man in prison for life, have the balls to go to trial.  Sackless bunch of panzies continue to inhabit the White House.  Sackless!!</p>
<p>@ Jozef #6<br />
Thanks for the heads up!</p>
<p>Free Staters in NH know that the &#8220;Live Free or Die&#8221; motto is a bunch of hot air.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamburgler007</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277233</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamburgler007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#16, in the US the hydrocodone doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be combined with tylenol, but it does have to be mixed with something.  One of the common alternatives to vicodin (w/tylenol) is vicoprofen (ibprofen).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16, in the US the hydrocodone doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be combined with tylenol, but it does have to be mixed with something.  One of the common alternatives to vicodin (w/tylenol) is vicoprofen (ibprofen).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve been hearing about how antioxidants supposedly mitigate the benefits of exercise for years now.  Do they?  Maybe, to some extent.  Or maybe not.  Who cares?  Anyone with two eyes and a brain knows that regular exercise makes you healthier, as does eating fruits, vegetables, and other foods high in vitamins C and E.  

Most of this alleged &quot;new research&quot; is just a ploy by clinical doctors to gain research funding, and media outlets (especially local news stations) only encourage it by constantly reporting on what &quot;the latest study&quot; says about some food or behavior being good or bad, as if simply eating a little more chocolate (&quot;a recent study says it can prevent ankle sprains!&quot;) will help someone remedy an otherwise unhealthy lifestyle.

The fact is, we already know exactly what to do to live a healthy and long life: regular aerobic exercise combined with consuming an appropriate amount of calories, ideally in the form of unprocessed, vitamin-rich foods.  Absent an unusual personal health issue, anyone who bases lifestyle choices on anything beyond that is an fool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been hearing about how antioxidants supposedly mitigate the benefits of exercise for years now.  Do they?  Maybe, to some extent.  Or maybe not.  Who cares?  Anyone with two eyes and a brain knows that regular exercise makes you healthier, as does eating fruits, vegetables, and other foods high in vitamins C and E.  </p>
<p>Most of this alleged &#8220;new research&#8221; is just a ploy by clinical doctors to gain research funding, and media outlets (especially local news stations) only encourage it by constantly reporting on what &#8220;the latest study&#8221; says about some food or behavior being good or bad, as if simply eating a little more chocolate (&#8220;a recent study says it can prevent ankle sprains!&#8221;) will help someone remedy an otherwise unhealthy lifestyle.</p>
<p>The fact is, we already know exactly what to do to live a healthy and long life: regular aerobic exercise combined with consuming an appropriate amount of calories, ideally in the form of unprocessed, vitamin-rich foods.  Absent an unusual personal health issue, anyone who bases lifestyle choices on anything beyond that is an fool.</p>
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		<title>By: Nando</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277218</link>
		<dc:creator>Nando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;#12  Ron
If antioxidants curb the benefits of exercising, then we all better stop eating oranges, weet potatoes, bell peppers, etc. becuase they are loaded with antioxidants. Junk science.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Read the article.  Fourth paragraph from the bottom:

&quot;The advice does not apply to fruits and vegetables, Dr. Ristow said; even though they are high in antioxidants, the many other substances they contain presumably outweigh any negative effect.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#12  Ron<br />
If antioxidants curb the benefits of exercising, then we all better stop eating oranges, weet potatoes, bell peppers, etc. becuase they are loaded with antioxidants. Junk science.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the article.  Fourth paragraph from the bottom:</p>
<p>&#8220;The advice does not apply to fruits and vegetables, Dr. Ristow said; even though they are high in antioxidants, the many other substances they contain presumably outweigh any negative effect.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure about the not being able to get Hydrocodone without the acetominophen, I believe I have some that was prescribed for my kids that did not contain it.

The reason I remember it is because my wife commented that she was not sure she had ever seen it without the acetominophen.

RE: Craigslist. They are moving it to the adult services section, where there is a cost involved. So it is no longer free, but they are actually making a profit from it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the not being able to get Hydrocodone without the acetominophen, I believe I have some that was prescribed for my kids that did not contain it.</p>
<p>The reason I remember it is because my wife commented that she was not sure she had ever seen it without the acetominophen.</p>
<p>RE: Craigslist. They are moving it to the adult services section, where there is a cost involved. So it is no longer free, but they are actually making a profit from it!</p>
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		<title>By: bile</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277207</link>
		<dc:creator>bile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Checkout http://sam.jailedactivist.info and the Dave Ridley arraignment subpage for a full description of the Sam Dodson jailing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checkout <a href="http://sam.jailedactivist.info" rel="nofollow">http://sam.jailedactivist.info</a> and the Dave Ridley arraignment subpage for a full description of the Sam Dodson jailing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/14/lunch-links-38/comment-page-1/#comment-277189</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;#7    nicole 

That is most definitely the case. That’s why you can’t get hydrocodone (in the US) without the added acetominophen. Nice, eh?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t know that.  I was hoping I was wrong.  Now I&#039;m depressed and need a drink (yet another chemical that&#039;s bad for my liver).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#7    nicole </p>
<p>That is most definitely the case. That’s why you can’t get hydrocodone (in the US) without the added acetominophen. Nice, eh?</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that.  I was hoping I was wrong.  Now I&#8217;m depressed and need a drink (yet another chemical that&#8217;s bad for my liver).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the last item, if the government has no respect for the specific rights explicitly described in the Constitution, they will most assuredly not have any respect for rights not so clearly identified.

The First Amendment provides no exception for advertisements of services that have been outlawed.  No matter what any judge or legislator says, it&#039;s just not there.  You either have freedom of speech, or you don&#039;t.  We don&#039;t.  We only have what they haven&#039;t taken away yet.

I am opposed to prostitution laws mostly because they unnecessarily interfere with the &quot;pursuit of happiness&quot;, both for the prostitute (in the form of income) and for the customer (in the form of a &quot;good time&quot;).  But these laws also criminalize honesty.  Almost all women can (and very many do) secure for themselves some form and degree of security in return for sex.  With few exceptions, only the simplest and most direct of such transactions, an exchange of cash for sex, is criminalized.  

The only reason most people need to support the outlawing of some activity is the knowledge that it&#039;s not an activity they engage in.  The real villain when it comes to loss of freedom isn&#039;t the government.  It&#039;s the guy who lives next door.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the last item, if the government has no respect for the specific rights explicitly described in the Constitution, they will most assuredly not have any respect for rights not so clearly identified.</p>
<p>The First Amendment provides no exception for advertisements of services that have been outlawed.  No matter what any judge or legislator says, it&#8217;s just not there.  You either have freedom of speech, or you don&#8217;t.  We don&#8217;t.  We only have what they haven&#8217;t taken away yet.</p>
<p>I am opposed to prostitution laws mostly because they unnecessarily interfere with the &#8220;pursuit of happiness&#8221;, both for the prostitute (in the form of income) and for the customer (in the form of a &#8220;good time&#8221;).  But these laws also criminalize honesty.  Almost all women can (and very many do) secure for themselves some form and degree of security in return for sex.  With few exceptions, only the simplest and most direct of such transactions, an exchange of cash for sex, is criminalized.  </p>
<p>The only reason most people need to support the outlawing of some activity is the knowledge that it&#8217;s not an activity they engage in.  The real villain when it comes to loss of freedom isn&#8217;t the government.  It&#8217;s the guy who lives next door.</p>
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