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	<title>Comments on: Fifth Circuit Says No SWAT Teams for Regulatory Inspections</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Randall H. Trantham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall H. Trantham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs a warrant?  Just have suspicion, show up with a paramilitary posse for a knock-and-talk, and if the homeowner even flinches, rush the house.  You do know the police do not have to show the warrant they claim to have; they gotta secure things; you know, protective sweep and such.

You now have present a group of corroborating police officer witnesses (with their assumed veracity) to get past qualified immunity, and above all, it is easy as pie to get a retro-dated warrant.  Compose the anticipatedly-weak &quot;bare-bones&quot; affidavit as the case progresses (an old crooked defense attorney trick).  You will wonder what sedative the judge was on when he approved this warrant application.  Of course the documents are verified by the good ol&#039; clerk at some leisurely time later.

What is needed in my opinion: mandatory verified proof of the existence of a warrant application affidavit at the exact time it purports to exist.  This can be done by fax, email, or saving of even an unsigned document to a Word or PDF file.

Where are those wise legislators when you need &#039;em?

Here in Lewzianer, we are about to have a holiday where if we suspect you of DWI we will call the standby-judge for a warrant.  I guess a fax will be involved somewhere in that process; shame they can&#039;t seem to fax warrant application affidavits and warrants on a regular basis.

Our committment to ethics here is astounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who needs a warrant?  Just have suspicion, show up with a paramilitary posse for a knock-and-talk, and if the homeowner even flinches, rush the house.  You do know the police do not have to show the warrant they claim to have; they gotta secure things; you know, protective sweep and such.</p>
<p>You now have present a group of corroborating police officer witnesses (with their assumed veracity) to get past qualified immunity, and above all, it is easy as pie to get a retro-dated warrant.  Compose the anticipatedly-weak &#8220;bare-bones&#8221; affidavit as the case progresses (an old crooked defense attorney trick).  You will wonder what sedative the judge was on when he approved this warrant application.  Of course the documents are verified by the good ol&#8217; clerk at some leisurely time later.</p>
<p>What is needed in my opinion: mandatory verified proof of the existence of a warrant application affidavit at the exact time it purports to exist.  This can be done by fax, email, or saving of even an unsigned document to a Word or PDF file.</p>
<p>Where are those wise legislators when you need &#8216;em?</p>
<p>Here in Lewzianer, we are about to have a holiday where if we suspect you of DWI we will call the standby-judge for a warrant.  I guess a fax will be involved somewhere in that process; shame they can&#8217;t seem to fax warrant application affidavits and warrants on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Our committment to ethics here is astounding.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Flack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/11/fifth-circuit-says-no-swat-teams-for-regulatory-inspections/comment-page-1/#comment-277087</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Flack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is in the attitudes and values of your general public. Politicians and news media will mostly be a reflection of them. But just what is about American public values that leads to this savagery? With a problem this serious don&#039;t just look at your vices. If it&#039;s this bad look at the cost of your virtues. It&#039;s probably, at least in part, the product of something that you are justifiably proud of in your public values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is in the attitudes and values of your general public. Politicians and news media will mostly be a reflection of them. But just what is about American public values that leads to this savagery? With a problem this serious don&#8217;t just look at your vices. If it&#8217;s this bad look at the cost of your virtues. It&#8217;s probably, at least in part, the product of something that you are justifiably proud of in your public values.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is the good news,

“America’s criminal justice system has deteriorated
to the point that it is a national disgrace.
With five percent of the world’s population,
our country houses 25 percent of the world’s
prison population,” said Sen. Webb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the good news,</p>
<p>“America’s criminal justice system has deteriorated<br />
to the point that it is a national disgrace.<br />
With five percent of the world’s population,<br />
our country houses 25 percent of the world’s<br />
prison population,” said Sen. Webb.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahah, you asked for it.
This is the statistic that sends chills up my spine. 

&quot;As the consequence of &quot;three strikes laws,&quot; the increase in the duration of incarceration in the last decade was most pronounced in the case of life prison sentences, which increased by 83% between 1992 and 2003&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahah, you asked for it.<br />
This is the statistic that sends chills up my spine. </p>
<p>&#8220;As the consequence of &#8220;three strikes laws,&#8221; the increase in the duration of incarceration in the last decade was most pronounced in the case of life prison sentences, which increased by 83% between 1992 and 2003&#8243;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States</a></p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya gotta wonder, what IS going on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya gotta wonder, what IS going on</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 Pam, those stats almost can&#039;t be quoted often enough. People need to be made aware of the overall picture of what is going on in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 Pam, those stats almost can&#8217;t be quoted often enough. People need to be made aware of the overall picture of what is going on in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seemed to be the appropriate story to post this stuff. Do you suppose there is something wrong either in our laws or our criminal &quot;justice&quot; system? What&#039;s wrong America?

The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate,[3][4] and total documented prison population in the world.[5][6] As of year-end 2007, a record 7.2 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole. Of the total, 2.3 million were incarcerated.[7] More than 1 in 100 American adults were incarcerated at the start of 2008. The People&#039;s Republic of China ranks second with 1.5 million, while having four times the population, thus having only about 18% per the US incarceration rate.[8][9]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seemed to be the appropriate story to post this stuff. Do you suppose there is something wrong either in our laws or our criminal &#8220;justice&#8221; system? What&#8217;s wrong America?</p>
<p>The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate,[3][4] and total documented prison population in the world.[5][6] As of year-end 2007, a record 7.2 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole. Of the total, 2.3 million were incarcerated.[7] More than 1 in 100 American adults were incarcerated at the start of 2008. The People&#8217;s Republic of China ranks second with 1.5 million, while having four times the population, thus having only about 18% per the US incarceration rate.[8][9]</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if those ratios have anything to do with anything in Louisiana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if those ratios have anything to do with anything in Louisiana</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of 2004, the three states with the lowest ratio of imprisoned to civilian population are Maine (148 per 100,000), Minnesota (171 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (175 per 100,000). The three states with the highest ratio are [b]Louisiana (816 per 100,000)[/b], Texas (694 per 100,000), and Mississippi (669 per 100,000). [14]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of 2004, the three states with the lowest ratio of imprisoned to civilian population are Maine (148 per 100,000), Minnesota (171 per 100,000), and Rhode Island (175 per 100,000). The three states with the highest ratio are [b]Louisiana (816 per 100,000)[/b], Texas (694 per 100,000), and Mississippi (669 per 100,000). [14]</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Taking plaintiffs’ factual allegations as true,...
.
.
.
...no such law permits the scope and manner of the raid that plaintiffs allege occurred here…&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting, use of &quot;alleged&quot; here. True factual allegations are no longer alleged. Do I sense a further careless devaluation of the word here?
This time it serves the target of the LE action unlike the usual superficial use of &quot;alleged&quot; by the media to cover themselves while the rest of their pieces clearly say &quot;obviously guilty&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Taking plaintiffs’ factual allegations as true,&#8230;<br />
.<br />
.<br />
.<br />
&#8230;no such law permits the scope and manner of the raid that plaintiffs allege occurred here…</i></p>
<p>Interesting, use of &#8220;alleged&#8221; here. True factual allegations are no longer alleged. Do I sense a further careless devaluation of the word here?<br />
This time it serves the target of the LE action unlike the usual superficial use of &#8220;alleged&#8221; by the media to cover themselves while the rest of their pieces clearly say &#8220;obviously guilty&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : Manassas Park&#8217;s Case Cut Off At The Legs</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : Manassas Park&#8217;s Case Cut Off At The Legs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Agitator is all over this: The case stems from what was clearly a drug raid conducted on a bar in Louisiana by the Rapides Parrish Sheriff’s Department. But the raid was conducted under the auspices of an alcohol inspection, which allowed the department to get around the need for a criminal search warrant. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Agitator is all over this: The case stems from what was clearly a drug raid conducted on a bar in Louisiana by the Rapides Parrish Sheriff’s Department. But the raid was conducted under the auspices of an alcohol inspection, which allowed the department to get around the need for a criminal search warrant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20  said in part  &quot;Let&#039;s hope the 4th Circuit, on appeal, is more sensitive to the need to protect individual constitutional rights. If not, the Supreme Court would seem a logical next stop.&quot;

It is my hope too...that the 4th Circuit...follows the lead of the 5th Circuit...with regard to protecting one&#039;s constitutional rights...and only allows the use of SWAT teams...for the purposes for which they were intended...to perform HIGH-risk operations that fall outside of the abilities of regular officers, including serving HIGH-risk arrest warrants, barricaded suspects, hostage rescue, counter-terrorism, and engaging heavily-armed criminals... and NOT as the FCPD used theirs...for routine police work...in the serving of a document search warrant...on my son...who they knew...made his living as an optometrist...did not own, possess or carry any firearms or other lethal weapons; had no criminal record; had no known reputation or propensity for violence; and had no known incidents of violence in his background...but they used SWAT...and their excessive force tactics anyway.

Without making any threatening moves...my 37 year old son was nevertheless shot and killed...outside of his condo...on Jan. 24, 2006...by a veteran FCPD SWAT officer.

Justice demands that the court addresses the issues of When and How SWAT is used...by our Police Departments...who are sworn to protect and serve its citizens...and the court must be &quot;sensitive to the need to protect an individual&#039;s constitutional rights&quot; because this IS still America.

www.justiceforsal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20  said in part  &#8220;Let&#8217;s hope the 4th Circuit, on appeal, is more sensitive to the need to protect individual constitutional rights. If not, the Supreme Court would seem a logical next stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is my hope too&#8230;that the 4th Circuit&#8230;follows the lead of the 5th Circuit&#8230;with regard to protecting one&#8217;s constitutional rights&#8230;and only allows the use of SWAT teams&#8230;for the purposes for which they were intended&#8230;to perform HIGH-risk operations that fall outside of the abilities of regular officers, including serving HIGH-risk arrest warrants, barricaded suspects, hostage rescue, counter-terrorism, and engaging heavily-armed criminals&#8230; and NOT as the FCPD used theirs&#8230;for routine police work&#8230;in the serving of a document search warrant&#8230;on my son&#8230;who they knew&#8230;made his living as an optometrist&#8230;did not own, possess or carry any firearms or other lethal weapons; had no criminal record; had no known reputation or propensity for violence; and had no known incidents of violence in his background&#8230;but they used SWAT&#8230;and their excessive force tactics anyway.</p>
<p>Without making any threatening moves&#8230;my 37 year old son was nevertheless shot and killed&#8230;outside of his condo&#8230;on Jan. 24, 2006&#8230;by a veteran FCPD SWAT officer.</p>
<p>Justice demands that the court addresses the issues of When and How SWAT is used&#8230;by our Police Departments&#8230;who are sworn to protect and serve its citizens&#8230;and the court must be &#8220;sensitive to the need to protect an individual&#8217;s constitutional rights&#8221; because this IS still America.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.justiceforsal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.justiceforsal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Golem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thorn says &quot;It&#039;s amazing how far law enforcement officials will go to skirt the law.&quot; Thorn, you don&#039;t know the half of it. 

In the Rack &quot;N Roll Billiard Club case, see above video, the basic intent was to get the club&#039;s owner on a felony charge. The police had investigated him for six months and came up with nothing (because there was nothing). So they got an idea that was sure to get him. 

Since the RNR Club had an ABC license restricted to beer sales, if there was hard liquor found on the premises, Mr. Ruttenberg, the owner, would be facing a felony ABC charge. To make sure this happened the police enlisted two stooges, both with pending drug charges, to hide liquor on Mr. Ruttenberg&#039;s premises. Once the liquor was on the premises, they would orchestrate a raid com- bining an ABC inspection with a Prince William/Manassas/Massas Park Joint Narcotics Task Force op., allegedly to serve arrest warrants on &quot;drug dealers,&quot; and then, ohmygod, &quot;discover&quot; the illegal alcohol. Mr. Ruttenberg, much to their delight, would be heading for jail.

The stooges planted two identical unopened half gallon bottles of vodka, in separate locations, about two days before the raid. Unfortunately for the police, Mr. Ruttenberg, through a very unusual stroke of good luck (a story in itself) found and removed the bottles. When the raid went down with some 50 officers, seven or eight in masks, armor and SWAT gear in general, their only arrest, executed within 3 minutes of the start, was one of the two stooges (the only individual in the Club with any drug background but an individual who was working for the police - witness his planting of the liquor). After this arrest, as clearly demonstrated by the one hour video from inside the club, they spent the next 50+ minutes searching frantically in the exact location they believed the liquor had been planted - sometimes more than three of them at a time and including the SWAT members as well as the ABC - for what wasn&#039;t there. It would be hilarious if it hadn&#039;t been so detrimental to Mr. Ruttenberg and the business he spent twenty years building.

The District Court judge has ignored, not even mentioned, all the foregoing in his misguided attempt to protect these power hungry, crooked cops. Let&#039;s hope the 4th Circuit, on appeal, is more sensitive to the need to protect individual constitutional rights. If not, the Supreme Court would seem a logical next stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thorn says &#8220;It&#8217;s amazing how far law enforcement officials will go to skirt the law.&#8221; Thorn, you don&#8217;t know the half of it. </p>
<p>In the Rack &#8220;N Roll Billiard Club case, see above video, the basic intent was to get the club&#8217;s owner on a felony charge. The police had investigated him for six months and came up with nothing (because there was nothing). So they got an idea that was sure to get him. </p>
<p>Since the RNR Club had an ABC license restricted to beer sales, if there was hard liquor found on the premises, Mr. Ruttenberg, the owner, would be facing a felony ABC charge. To make sure this happened the police enlisted two stooges, both with pending drug charges, to hide liquor on Mr. Ruttenberg&#8217;s premises. Once the liquor was on the premises, they would orchestrate a raid com- bining an ABC inspection with a Prince William/Manassas/Massas Park Joint Narcotics Task Force op., allegedly to serve arrest warrants on &#8220;drug dealers,&#8221; and then, ohmygod, &#8220;discover&#8221; the illegal alcohol. Mr. Ruttenberg, much to their delight, would be heading for jail.</p>
<p>The stooges planted two identical unopened half gallon bottles of vodka, in separate locations, about two days before the raid. Unfortunately for the police, Mr. Ruttenberg, through a very unusual stroke of good luck (a story in itself) found and removed the bottles. When the raid went down with some 50 officers, seven or eight in masks, armor and SWAT gear in general, their only arrest, executed within 3 minutes of the start, was one of the two stooges (the only individual in the Club with any drug background but an individual who was working for the police &#8211; witness his planting of the liquor). After this arrest, as clearly demonstrated by the one hour video from inside the club, they spent the next 50+ minutes searching frantically in the exact location they believed the liquor had been planted &#8211; sometimes more than three of them at a time and including the SWAT members as well as the ABC &#8211; for what wasn&#8217;t there. It would be hilarious if it hadn&#8217;t been so detrimental to Mr. Ruttenberg and the business he spent twenty years building.</p>
<p>The District Court judge has ignored, not even mentioned, all the foregoing in his misguided attempt to protect these power hungry, crooked cops. Let&#8217;s hope the 4th Circuit, on appeal, is more sensitive to the need to protect individual constitutional rights. If not, the Supreme Court would seem a logical next stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Klintron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klintron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hut - is there a Cop Watch organization in your town? You might consider joining or starting one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hut &#8211; is there a Cop Watch organization in your town? You might consider joining or starting one.</p>
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		<title>By: Hut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty,
I actually live in arguably the worst city for police abuse, and I have done little.  But in this case it was a sheriff, which is an elected position.  I think chance has it right that its because most people either sign on to this type of stuff or are ignorant of it and are too busy to care.  
But I want to do something.  Right now it seems like the only things being done are by people like Radley and a few other bloggers.  What else can we do?  I personally work a job that I could lose if I got involved in protesting the police publicly, which make it difficult.  All I know is I&#039;m sick of reading these year after year and seeing it get worse..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty,<br />
I actually live in arguably the worst city for police abuse, and I have done little.  But in this case it was a sheriff, which is an elected position.  I think chance has it right that its because most people either sign on to this type of stuff or are ignorant of it and are too busy to care.<br />
But I want to do something.  Right now it seems like the only things being done are by people like Radley and a few other bloggers.  What else can we do?  I personally work a job that I could lose if I got involved in protesting the police publicly, which make it difficult.  All I know is I&#8217;m sick of reading these year after year and seeing it get worse..</p>
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		<title>By: omar</title>
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		<dc:creator>omar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That video needs to:
1) Be sped up
2) Have a Benny Hill soundtrack

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That video needs to:<br />
1) Be sped up<br />
2) Have a Benny Hill soundtrack</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/11/fifth-circuit-says-no-swat-teams-for-regulatory-inspections/comment-page-1/#comment-276442</link>
		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SWAT for all government uses is the new mantra I guess.

You need to visit here and get your card printed.

Notice the statement for not inventorying your vehicle.

http://www.motorists.org/blog/roadblock-rights-card/

There is a full sheet or wallet size at the bottom of page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SWAT for all government uses is the new mantra I guess.</p>
<p>You need to visit here and get your card printed.</p>
<p>Notice the statement for not inventorying your vehicle.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.motorists.org/blog/roadblock-rights-card/" rel="nofollow">http://www.motorists.org/blog/roadblock-rights-card/</a></p>
<p>There is a full sheet or wallet size at the bottom of page.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/11/fifth-circuit-says-no-swat-teams-for-regulatory-inspections/comment-page-1/#comment-276166</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;no authority that even suggests that the search and seizure of one suspect in a public place can be bootstrapped into probable cause for a broad-based search of the business establishment and its patrons.&quot;

I wonder how many suspects it would take to allow the search of all patrons... back some 10-12 years ago, police raided Club Firestone in Orlando FL... they had arrest warrants for some 75 people they had bought drugs from in undercover stings over a period of months... this particular night, they shut down the club and searched everyone, arresting those that were in position of drugs even if they had no warrants on them... in all, they arrested some 55 people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no authority that even suggests that the search and seizure of one suspect in a public place can be bootstrapped into probable cause for a broad-based search of the business establishment and its patrons.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder how many suspects it would take to allow the search of all patrons&#8230; back some 10-12 years ago, police raided Club Firestone in Orlando FL&#8230; they had arrest warrants for some 75 people they had bought drugs from in undercover stings over a period of months&#8230; this particular night, they shut down the club and searched everyone, arresting those that were in position of drugs even if they had no warrants on them&#8230; in all, they arrested some 55 people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeHardly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/05/11/fifth-circuit-says-no-swat-teams-for-regulatory-inspections/comment-page-1/#comment-276131</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeHardly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic at hand was a recent court decision which is intended to curtail vehicle-wide searches during a traffic stop; to sum it up, if a driver is cuffed in the back of a police car and has no access to his vehicle (and no way to alter the vehicle’s contents), then the police have to right to search based on the intention of preserving possible evidence that might be found (without procuring a warrant.)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drug-rehab-center.org/alabama.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alabama Drug Rehab Centers and Programs&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic at hand was a recent court decision which is intended to curtail vehicle-wide searches during a traffic stop; to sum it up, if a driver is cuffed in the back of a police car and has no access to his vehicle (and no way to alter the vehicle’s contents), then the police have to right to search based on the intention of preserving possible evidence that might be found (without procuring a warrant.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drug-rehab-center.org/alabama.htm" rel="nofollow">Alabama Drug Rehab Centers and Programs</a></p>
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		<title>By: Officer Jeff Cudjik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Officer Jeff Cudjik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! When are these guys going to learn? All of this could have been prevented, had they taken a lesson from the way we Philly cops roll. Cut the camera wires next time, guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! When are these guys going to learn? All of this could have been prevented, had they taken a lesson from the way we Philly cops roll. Cut the camera wires next time, guys!</p>
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