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	<title>Comments on: Milwaukee Police Chief Says to Hell With the Rule of Law</title>
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		<title>By: Attack the System &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ignorance of the Law Is No Excuse (Unless You’re in Law Enforcement)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attack the System &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ignorance of the Law Is No Excuse (Unless You’re in Law Enforcement)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he isn’t alone. Law enforcement officials in Milwaukee and Philadelphia have expressed similar sentiments, and without much [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ignorance of the Law Is No Excuse (Unless You&#8217;re in Law Enforcement) &#124; The Agitator</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-2/#comment-1534620</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignorance of the Law Is No Excuse (Unless You&#8217;re in Law Enforcement) &#124; The Agitator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he isn&#8217;t alone. Law enforcement officials in Milwaukee and Philadelphia have expressed similar sentiments, and without much [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Morning Links</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-2/#comment-301930</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Morning Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an affair with the city&#8217;s police chief just months after writing a flattering profile of him. That would be this police chief, by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:

“you just can’t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.”

No, the good cops are the ones that issued a public statement that they will disregard this illegal order.

The good cops are the ones that didn’t issue a public statement condemning “Chief” Flynn’s call for crime.

The good cops are the ones that arrested “Chief” Flynn for conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, battery, grand theft, etc.

It&#039;s only the others that are jackbooted thugs on a power trip. And/or cowards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>“you just can’t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.”</p>
<p>No, the good cops are the ones that issued a public statement that they will disregard this illegal order.</p>
<p>The good cops are the ones that didn’t issue a public statement condemning “Chief” Flynn’s call for crime.</p>
<p>The good cops are the ones that arrested “Chief” Flynn for conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, battery, grand theft, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only the others that are jackbooted thugs on a power trip. And/or cowards.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you just can’t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.&quot;

No - just the ones that didn&#039;t issue a public statement that they will disregard this illegal order.

Just the ones that didn&#039;t issue a public statement condemning &quot;Chief&quot; Flynn&#039;s call for crime.

Just the ones that arrested &quot;Chief&quot; Flynn for conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, battery, grand theft, etc.

All those cops, those are the good cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you just can’t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.&#8221;</p>
<p>No &#8211; just the ones that didn&#8217;t issue a public statement that they will disregard this illegal order.</p>
<p>Just the ones that didn&#8217;t issue a public statement condemning &#8220;Chief&#8221; Flynn&#8217;s call for crime.</p>
<p>Just the ones that arrested &#8220;Chief&#8221; Flynn for conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, battery, grand theft, etc.</p>
<p>All those cops, those are the good cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-267862</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. ... This is what is it going to take &quot;

No, you can go to court today, and ask for a &quot;declaratory judgment&quot; that you have the right to parade around, etc. 

You don&#039;t need to wait for the collision to occur as long as it&#039;s impending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. &#8230; This is what is it going to take &#8221;</p>
<p>No, you can go to court today, and ask for a &#8220;declaratory judgment&#8221; that you have the right to parade around, etc. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to wait for the collision to occur as long as it&#8217;s impending.</p>
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		<title>By: Woog</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-267340</link>
		<dc:creator>Woog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: #9

Matters of the impossibility of black-robed tyrants deciding away inherent liberties, look up &quot;John Bad Elk vs US&quot;, a case where a person successfully defended himself from an unlawful arrest, killing the cop, and the self-defense killing was ultimately was found to be justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #9</p>
<p>Matters of the impossibility of black-robed tyrants deciding away inherent liberties, look up &#8220;John Bad Elk vs US&#8221;, a case where a person successfully defended himself from an unlawful arrest, killing the cop, and the self-defense killing was ultimately was found to be justified.</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46 &#124;  Libertarian &#124;  April 25th, 2009 at 11:00 am 
So which one of you law abiding honorable Milwaukee citizens is willing to challenge this guy in court? If I lived there I would be parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. With my Attorneys number on speed dial and a hidden camera and microphone. This is what is it going to take to put people like this in their place.

Actuallly you would need a couple of other people filming away from you so the TROOPS couldn&#039;t destroy any recorded evidence because we all know how evidence unfavorable to the Police seems to go &quot;missing&quot; when said evidence portrays the Police in a less than favorable light.  Maybe OpenCarry.org could organize and fund such a &quot;sting operation&quot;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#46 |  Libertarian |  April 25th, 2009 at 11:00 am<br />
So which one of you law abiding honorable Milwaukee citizens is willing to challenge this guy in court? If I lived there I would be parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. With my Attorneys number on speed dial and a hidden camera and microphone. This is what is it going to take to put people like this in their place.</p>
<p>Actuallly you would need a couple of other people filming away from you so the TROOPS couldn&#8217;t destroy any recorded evidence because we all know how evidence unfavorable to the Police seems to go &#8220;missing&#8221; when said evidence portrays the Police in a less than favorable light.  Maybe OpenCarry.org could organize and fund such a &#8220;sting operation&#8221;???</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266831</link>
		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 &#124;  Sesquiculus &#124;  April 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm 
said:
&quot;This is not just theoretical. Once, a Texas deputy penitentiary warden and a prison guard took a prisoner outside and started to beat him up. He killed one of them. The jury ruled that it was self-defense, not murder.&quot;


If this is, in fact, true, then all that&#039;s left to be said is Hallelujah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 |  Sesquiculus |  April 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 pm<br />
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&#8220;This is not just theoretical. Once, a Texas deputy penitentiary warden and a prison guard took a prisoner outside and started to beat him up. He killed one of them. The jury ruled that it was self-defense, not murder.&#8221;</p>
<p>If this is, in fact, true, then all that&#8217;s left to be said is Hallelujah!</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So which one of you law abiding honorable Milwaukee citizens is willing to challenge this guy in court? If I lived there I would be parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. With my Attorneys number on speed dial and a hidden camera and microphone. This is what is it going to take to put people like this in their place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So which one of you law abiding honorable Milwaukee citizens is willing to challenge this guy in court? If I lived there I would be parading around in front of the police station with a clearly visible revolvers on both hips. With my Attorneys number on speed dial and a hidden camera and microphone. This is what is it going to take to put people like this in their place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mini Marine</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266456</link>
		<dc:creator>Mini Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since one of the very few good things Bush did was sign into law national concealed carry rights for law enforcement officers, I have a few cop friends that are thinking about taking some vacation time in Milwaukee to see if these guys are actually gonna follow through on this bullshit.

There are many good cops out an about who are doing everything they can to serve the community.  I&#039;m working on my criminal justice degree and plan on becoming a police officer myself.  So while I agree that the statement this chief made is absolutely abhorrent, you just can&#039;t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since one of the very few good things Bush did was sign into law national concealed carry rights for law enforcement officers, I have a few cop friends that are thinking about taking some vacation time in Milwaukee to see if these guys are actually gonna follow through on this bullshit.</p>
<p>There are many good cops out an about who are doing everything they can to serve the community.  I&#8217;m working on my criminal justice degree and plan on becoming a police officer myself.  So while I agree that the statement this chief made is absolutely abhorrent, you just can&#8217;t lump all cops as jackbooted thugs on a power trip.</p>
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		<title>By: garry walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266392</link>
		<dc:creator>garry walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of police in america is to protect rich peoples property. That includes intimidation and violence against the populace.   For what to do about this look to the French or Greeks.  They have a spine and stand up to the facists. Americans put their hands on their hearts and sing God Bless America and then go shopping.  You have earned your enslavement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of police in america is to protect rich peoples property. That includes intimidation and violence against the populace.   For what to do about this look to the French or Greeks.  They have a spine and stand up to the facists. Americans put their hands on their hearts and sing God Bless America and then go shopping.  You have earned your enslavement.</p>
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		<title>By: stromm sarnac</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266353</link>
		<dc:creator>stromm sarnac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, you&#039;re reading way too much into the &quot;troopers&quot; phrase.

MANY State police are called Troopers and their commanders call groups of them troops.  It has nothing to do with &quot;being military like&quot;. 

Geesh.  I guess some people will look for any reason to lambaste someone who is doing a job they themselves don&#039;t have any clue about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, you&#8217;re reading way too much into the &#8220;troopers&#8221; phrase.</p>
<p>MANY State police are called Troopers and their commanders call groups of them troops.  It has nothing to do with &#8220;being military like&#8221;. </p>
<p>Geesh.  I guess some people will look for any reason to lambaste someone who is doing a job they themselves don&#8217;t have any clue about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim March</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim March</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting:

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Please correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the SCOTUS decide innocent US citizens DO NOT have the right to resist an unlawful arrest?
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That&#039;s true - but this is NOT about unlawful arrest.  What this Chief is telling his &quot;troops&quot; to commit is unlawful ASSAULT.

If I pull a gun on you, that&#039;s assault.  The rules are no different for cops.  It IS still legal to resist an assault with deadly force with deadly force of your own.

It probably wouldn&#039;t be a good idea unless you have both audio and video proof you committed no crime giving them reason to draw...but cameras are getting pretty damn small these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting:</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Please correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the SCOTUS decide innocent US citizens DO NOT have the right to resist an unlawful arrest?<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true &#8211; but this is NOT about unlawful arrest.  What this Chief is telling his &#8220;troops&#8221; to commit is unlawful ASSAULT.</p>
<p>If I pull a gun on you, that&#8217;s assault.  The rules are no different for cops.  It IS still legal to resist an assault with deadly force with deadly force of your own.</p>
<p>It probably wouldn&#8217;t be a good idea unless you have both audio and video proof you committed no crime giving them reason to draw&#8230;but cameras are getting pretty damn small these days.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266325</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why citizens need to have the right to violently resist unlawful arrest (like they have had for most of American history).  That would take care of his troops and his attitude real quick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why citizens need to have the right to violently resist unlawful arrest (like they have had for most of American history).  That would take care of his troops and his attitude real quick</p>
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		<title>By: Roho</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/23/milwaukee-police-chief-says-to-hell-with-the-rule-of-law/comment-page-1/#comment-266266</link>
		<dc:creator>Roho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the Chief is okay with protests.  A little later in the same speech:
&quot;Maybe I&#039;ll end up with a protest of cowboys.&quot;
All taken together, it&#039;s nice to see a police chief who really *respects* the citizens of his city.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/43347632.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the Chief is okay with protests.  A little later in the same speech:<br />
&#8220;Maybe I&#8217;ll end up with a protest of cowboys.&#8221;<br />
All taken together, it&#8217;s nice to see a police chief who really *respects* the citizens of his city.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/43347632.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/43347632.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GreginOz</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreginOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am reminded of watching a re-run of Orange County Chopper the other day, when they were building a bike for the NYPD (To Detest &amp; Serb). The level of grovelling, sickening worship, the malodorius, fawnig &#039;patriotism&#039;, the cloying and simpering admiration of the Teuttals (sic?) was ass-tounding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am reminded of watching a re-run of Orange County Chopper the other day, when they were building a bike for the NYPD (To Detest &amp; Serb). The level of grovelling, sickening worship, the malodorius, fawnig &#8216;patriotism&#8217;, the cloying and simpering admiration of the Teuttals (sic?) was ass-tounding!</p>
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		<title>By: joshgeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Will
so what you&#039;re saying is the police will do whatever they want, regardless of the law?

@zappacrappa
it&#039;s true, the milwaukee pd has a lush history of shenanigans. the frank jude, jr. case comes to mind from the more recent incidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Will<br />
so what you&#8217;re saying is the police will do whatever they want, regardless of the law?</p>
<p>@zappacrappa<br />
it&#8217;s true, the milwaukee pd has a lush history of shenanigans. the frank jude, jr. case comes to mind from the more recent incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2nd mistake is having a chief who thinks he has more power than the locally elected officials who make the laws.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We&#039;ll see if it&#039;s a mistake or not.  I&#039;m guessing &quot;not&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2nd mistake is having a chief who thinks he has more power than the locally elected officials who make the laws.</p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;ll see if it&#8217;s a mistake or not.  I&#8217;m guessing &#8220;not&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the lawsuit issue, why isn&#039;t every licensed in WI heading to Milwaukee to cash in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the lawsuit issue, why isn&#8217;t every licensed in WI heading to Milwaukee to cash in?</p>
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