As I said, I’m not terribly upset about what the cop said, though it’s unfortunate for the victim’s family that it was caught on video.

It’s the intimidation of the people they thought posted the video that’s troubling.

When I was a cop, I joked about murder victims. Of course you joke about murder victims. I mean, you do try and wait till you’re away from from the murder scene before joking about murder victims (though I didn’t even always pass that test).

So after work–after seeing another person take his last earthly breath, after looking at a dead criminal’s brain spatter all about, after seeing the bastard’s family break down over the death of their “baby,” after hearing witness after witness say they “didn’t see nothin’”, after sorting through the guy’s bloody and dirty clothes for evidence collection–after all that you go have a few beers with your buddies and you tell stories. You laugh. You try and make sense out of world that makes no sense.

This is what police do. And they do it day after day. What are you supposed to do? Buy flowers and the first silk-screened t-shirt in memory of the dead guy?

And for the record, it is funny, even hilarious, to come across a guy shot dead in the head right under a malt-liquor sign that says, “Take it to the head”! Swear to God. Next round is on me.

So what we have here is someone who is a liar, and has no honor to the code and oath he took. Fired, end of story.

Dammit Jim, I hope you’re not a doctor! And I hope if you ever make it on a jury pool you get thrown off.

A bar IS a public place unless the ‘bar’ is in a private home. This guy should have exercised a bit more self-control or discretion.

What is very clear to me is that the shooting incident truly has affected this guy psychologically even though it appears not.

He is is using ‘humor’ to mask the pain he probably feels. In all honesty, it would behoove his superiors to get this guy some serious counseling ASAP.

Been there, done that.

“So go ahead with the negative Karma, but try and justify why the real villians(sic) here aren’t the people who taped and posted this thing.”

Because the people who posted the video were in the bar were there trying to have a good time too Chief. Of course you will argue, well hey, they could have asked him to tone it down if it bothered them that much.

And of course what would have happened is the drunken idiot trouble maker would have turned big bad cop and violence would have ensued I’m sure.

If you want to get drunk to the point where you can’t control your asshole behavior do it at home.

Sometimes, the bar is called the “pub” which is short for what?

Just another wanker “victim”.

And, of course, the police would never allow themselves to be filmed on a reality TV show called “Cops” or something like that, and would never ever put out photos or video of suspects until they had been convicted.

It’s public in the sense that it’s open to the public, which means there’s no expectation of privacy. And I don’t see how he needs permission from the owner to do anything. He had permission to be in the bar, and there’s no reason to think he was told not to videotape.

I never said that the bar should sue the guy who shot the video, I said that the Cop in the video should sue.

Pennsylvania common law allows four separate civil actions for torts falling under the umbrella of invasion of privacy. These civil actions are: (1) intrusion upon seclusion, (2) appropriation of name or likeness, (3) publicity given to private life, and (4) publicity placing a person in a false light. An individual who succeeds in proving any of these claims may be entitled to an award of compensatory damages, and if the misconduct is willful and outrageous, punitive damages as well.

I think the cop has a good shot at proving 3 and possibly 4.

The Ugly American.

By the way, a bar isn’t a Public place, it is a PRIVATE business establishment. If the guy with the camera didn’t have permission from the owner to be taping he has no protection from a lawsuit.

I hope the cop gets a lawyer and sues. I wouldn’t mind being on the Jury for that one, and there is a slim possibility that I might since I live in the area where this happened.

If the cop was on duty or in uniform, my outlook on this would be totally different, I would agree with the guy with the camera.

It’s a double irony that I would bet most cops wouldn’t accept that reasoning to excuse the behavior of those they lock up on a daily basis.

Unless he turned in the guy doing the intimidation, he is just as guilty. They did all this under color of law, which is the definition of tyranny. Even the expert they interviewed said this:

But for that officer to approach a witness, on his own, without permission, is an attempt to influence” the internal-affairs probe, Rothlein said. “That would be unusual. It generally would not fall under the generally acceptable standards of conduct for an internal-affairs investigation.”

Under typical procedures, Rothlein said, “the person under investigation is told to stay uninvolved in the investigation. You wouldn’t want that person intimidating witnesses.”

You don’t think its intimidating for the police officer accusing you of wrongdoing against him shows up at your work while on duty? Are you guys nuts, thats a planned strategy to get people to give in.

There is way more to this thing too. How did they get the IP address of the guy? How did they get his name, address and place of employment? Did they get a court order for that information from the ISP?

Because they’re hypocrites who expect and even demand a double standard because they are so much more valuable than us.