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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisD</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264871</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.) I can&#039;t believe that red-light story is happening in Montana of all places. Montana!

2.) More should be made of that TARP re-payment business. Let&#039;s see: you force someone into taking a loan they don&#039;t want, then you use that leverage to coerce them into doing favors for you. Isn&#039;t that the behavior we&#039;d expect of a Corleone rather than an Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.) I can&#8217;t believe that red-light story is happening in Montana of all places. Montana!</p>
<p>2.) More should be made of that TARP re-payment business. Let&#8217;s see: you force someone into taking a loan they don&#8217;t want, then you use that leverage to coerce them into doing favors for you. Isn&#8217;t that the behavior we&#8217;d expect of a Corleone rather than an Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: tesla</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264798</link>
		<dc:creator>tesla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny but in that Cato Institute &quot;Of Course It was Torture&quot; article they left out the punchline.  

&quot;President Obama’s national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.&quot;

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html?_r=1&amp;hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny but in that Cato Institute &#8220;Of Course It was Torture&#8221; article they left out the punchline.  </p>
<p>&#8220;President Obama’s national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html?_r=1&amp;hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html?_r=1&amp;hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: something in Latin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264743</link>
		<dc:creator>something in Latin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be too worried about Billings, the cameras are about to get a state legislature smackdown:

http://missoulian.com/articles/2009/04/21/news/mtregional/news14.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too worried about Billings, the cameras are about to get a state legislature smackdown:</p>
<p><a href="http://missoulian.com/articles/2009/04/21/news/mtregional/news14.txt" rel="nofollow">http://missoulian.com/articles/2009/04/21/news/mtregional/news14.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264712</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/#comment-264673&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gabriel&lt;/a&gt;, I agree. Their ruling isn&#039;t supported by some conclusive finding of fact (instead noting that &quot;The parties agree that nothing violent or illegal happened at those events [the gun shows].&quot;), therefor it seems like a very broad restriction, which annoys me especially since the Ninth clearly states that passing the rational basis test would be insufficient for a law that deals with a fundamental right (such as they agree is guaranteed by the Second Amendment).

Frankly, as much of a breath of fresh air as it was, I am generally disappointed in &lt;i&gt;Heller&lt;/i&gt;. It provided too little guidance as to what sort of infringements shouldn&#039;t be considered infringements. The most obvious conclusion would be that, if one needs to bother parsing such equivocal matters, there is an infringement. But, the exceptions for &quot;laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places...&quot; opened the door for anyone to decide what constitutes a sensitive place based on nearly any criterion. In this case, apparently, any place where a substantial number of people may gather can be considered a sensitive place. 

(Although the issue was focused on county property, I&#039;m not sure how the Ninth stops government from restricting gun rights on private property, aside from the home itself. For instance, there is a big gun show in at the Reno Hilton every year, and lots of people are there. Why isn&#039;t that a &quot;sensitive place&quot;?)

And, as a practical matter, you wouldn&#039;t want to bother having a gun show at some place where a large number of people &lt;em&gt;couldn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; gather. Which, not coincidentally in my view, squares quite well with the goals of the ordinance&#039;s author, County Supervsor Mary King. She stated that she had “been trying to get rid of gun shows on Country property” for three years when her ordinance finally passed.

At any rate, I&#039;m glad the Ninth found the due process argument for incorporating &lt;i&gt;Heller&lt;/i&gt; at the state and local levels. But, they did so while at the same time leaving a gaping hole for legislation that restricts this particular civil liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/#comment-264673" rel="nofollow">Gabriel</a>, I agree. Their ruling isn&#8217;t supported by some conclusive finding of fact (instead noting that &#8220;The parties agree that nothing violent or illegal happened at those events [the gun shows].&#8221;), therefor it seems like a very broad restriction, which annoys me especially since the Ninth clearly states that passing the rational basis test would be insufficient for a law that deals with a fundamental right (such as they agree is guaranteed by the Second Amendment).</p>
<p>Frankly, as much of a breath of fresh air as it was, I am generally disappointed in <i>Heller</i>. It provided too little guidance as to what sort of infringements shouldn&#8217;t be considered infringements. The most obvious conclusion would be that, if one needs to bother parsing such equivocal matters, there is an infringement. But, the exceptions for &#8220;laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places&#8230;&#8221; opened the door for anyone to decide what constitutes a sensitive place based on nearly any criterion. In this case, apparently, any place where a substantial number of people may gather can be considered a sensitive place. </p>
<p>(Although the issue was focused on county property, I&#8217;m not sure how the Ninth stops government from restricting gun rights on private property, aside from the home itself. For instance, there is a big gun show in at the Reno Hilton every year, and lots of people are there. Why isn&#8217;t that a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221;?)</p>
<p>And, as a practical matter, you wouldn&#8217;t want to bother having a gun show at some place where a large number of people <em>couldn&#8217;t</em> gather. Which, not coincidentally in my view, squares quite well with the goals of the ordinance&#8217;s author, County Supervsor Mary King. She stated that she had “been trying to get rid of gun shows on Country property” for three years when her ordinance finally passed.</p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;m glad the Ninth found the due process argument for incorporating <i>Heller</i> at the state and local levels. But, they did so while at the same time leaving a gaping hole for legislation that restricts this particular civil liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I read that article correctly, they could cut accidents dramatically just by adding 1 second to the yellow time; forget cameras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read that article correctly, they could cut accidents dramatically just by adding 1 second to the yellow time; forget cameras.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: The actual Heller decision which the 9th was relying on specified that local restrictions were appropriate and allowable for &quot;sensitive places such as schools and hospitals.&quot; The 9th decided that a county fairground was a &quot;sensitive place&quot; simply because large crowds of people might gather there, without any further explanation or justification for such a finding. That&#039;s the most troubling part of the decision as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: The actual Heller decision which the 9th was relying on specified that local restrictions were appropriate and allowable for &#8220;sensitive places such as schools and hospitals.&#8221; The 9th decided that a county fairground was a &#8220;sensitive place&#8221; simply because large crowds of people might gather there, without any further explanation or justification for such a finding. That&#8217;s the most troubling part of the decision as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: hexag1</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264662</link>
		<dc:creator>hexag1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley, 
I listened to the &quot;story&quot; as broadcasted on yesterdays All Things Considered. They were very clear that the story was specualtive, and gave a warning up front not to take the piece seriously.
As for the interviews, I can confirm that at least one of them was for rea. I am a former employee of Oat Willie&#039;s on 29th street &amp; Guadalupe in Austin, and that really was my old boss Doug Brown on the radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,<br />
I listened to the &#8220;story&#8221; as broadcasted on yesterdays All Things Considered. They were very clear that the story was specualtive, and gave a warning up front not to take the piece seriously.<br />
As for the interviews, I can confirm that at least one of them was for rea. I am a former employee of Oat Willie&#8217;s on 29th street &amp; Guadalupe in Austin, and that really was my old boss Doug Brown on the radio.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264646</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave #24,
Waco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave #24,<br />
Waco.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264640</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding incorporation of the Second Amendment, my understanding is that the Supreme Court, while not ruling specifically on this issue, did have an opinion written discussing this issue. The opinion was the Dred Scott case, of all things, and pre-dates the Fourteenth Amendment. 

In one of the justice&#039;s opinions, he wrote (I&#039;m quoting from memory) that if blacks were citizens of the United States, they&#039;d be free to move from state to state &lt;i&gt;and take their guns with them.&lt;/i&gt; 

I&#039;m sure that there are all sorts of technical, legal arguments; but that&#039;s not what I&#039;m talking about. What I&#039;m saying is that prior to our &quot;enlightened age,&quot; it was taken for granted that people of one state would be free to take their guns to another. Prior to modern anti-gun laws, it was taken for granted that people were free to possess guns in all states of the union. 

So, yeah -- the Second Amendment should be incorporated, as are the First and the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding incorporation of the Second Amendment, my understanding is that the Supreme Court, while not ruling specifically on this issue, did have an opinion written discussing this issue. The opinion was the Dred Scott case, of all things, and pre-dates the Fourteenth Amendment. </p>
<p>In one of the justice&#8217;s opinions, he wrote (I&#8217;m quoting from memory) that if blacks were citizens of the United States, they&#8217;d be free to move from state to state <i>and take their guns with them.</i> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that there are all sorts of technical, legal arguments; but that&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m talking about. What I&#8217;m saying is that prior to our &#8220;enlightened age,&#8221; it was taken for granted that people of one state would be free to take their guns to another. Prior to modern anti-gun laws, it was taken for granted that people were free to possess guns in all states of the union. </p>
<p>So, yeah &#8212; the Second Amendment should be incorporated, as are the First and the others.</p>
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		<title>By: davidst</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264636</link>
		<dc:creator>davidst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need to be dying to go to the ER, you just need to think that you are.  I&#039;ve seen herb where experienced smokers take a single hit and are higher than they&#039;ve ever been (and not comfortable about it).  Due to experience, they know they can just wait it out, but imagine if n00bs found some stuff like that and took 3 or 4 good hits?  It would be like that cop and his wife that made the brownies and called 911.

In any case, that was definitely the stupidest thing in the article.  The rest of it was remarkably evenhanded and realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to be dying to go to the ER, you just need to think that you are.  I&#8217;ve seen herb where experienced smokers take a single hit and are higher than they&#8217;ve ever been (and not comfortable about it).  Due to experience, they know they can just wait it out, but imagine if n00bs found some stuff like that and took 3 or 4 good hits?  It would be like that cop and his wife that made the brownies and called 911.</p>
<p>In any case, that was definitely the stupidest thing in the article.  The rest of it was remarkably evenhanded and realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>davidst:

&quot;if super potent pot was available...&quot;
It is. Almost all weed is super potent now, and has been for nearly 2 decades.

&quot;surely many of them would think they were dying after smoking a bit of it (even though they aren’t dying).&quot;

Really? I&#039;ve never seen that happen EVER. The worst symptom I&#039;ve seen is elevated anxiety, easily remedied by sitting down and maybe sipping on a glass of water. Contrast that with taking an excessive dose of pharmaceuticals where, you know, you could actually die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davidst:</p>
<p>&#8220;if super potent pot was available&#8230;&#8221;<br />
It is. Almost all weed is super potent now, and has been for nearly 2 decades.</p>
<p>&#8220;surely many of them would think they were dying after smoking a bit of it (even though they aren’t dying).&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? I&#8217;ve never seen that happen EVER. The worst symptom I&#8217;ve seen is elevated anxiety, easily remedied by sitting down and maybe sipping on a glass of water. Contrast that with taking an excessive dose of pharmaceuticals where, you know, you could actually die.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was my favorite statement from the entire NPR program.

Almonte, director of the Texas Narcotic Officer’s Association:
&quot;But more importantly, we&#039;re seeing a more potent marijuana. And with that we&#039;re seeing … an increase in the emergency room admissions.&quot;

There is no way this guy can be that misinformed. Therefore he is outright lying. I also loved his argument about how criminals will continue being criminals. How insightful Shirlock. Legalization would at least end their drug dealing profits and the violence associated with said dealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my favorite statement from the entire NPR program.</p>
<p>Almonte, director of the Texas Narcotic Officer’s Association:<br />
&#8220;But more importantly, we&#8217;re seeing a more potent marijuana. And with that we&#8217;re seeing … an increase in the emergency room admissions.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no way this guy can be that misinformed. Therefore he is outright lying. I also loved his argument about how criminals will continue being criminals. How insightful Shirlock. Legalization would at least end their drug dealing profits and the violence associated with said dealing.</p>
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		<title>By: davidst</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I thought that NPR article was pretty honest and even handed.  Even the part about ER visits... if super potent pot was available to n00bs that had never smoked before, surely many of them would think they were dying after smoking a bit of it (even though they aren&#039;t dying).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I thought that NPR article was pretty honest and even handed.  Even the part about ER visits&#8230; if super potent pot was available to n00bs that had never smoked before, surely many of them would think they were dying after smoking a bit of it (even though they aren&#8217;t dying).</p>
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		<title>By: phlinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>phlinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Billings, who is appalled that the city wants to add cameras at all, the actual comments made by our police chief aren&#039;t particularly troublesome.  As far as I can tell, he was saying any change in light timing should be announced, with more extensive notices given if they are shortened, without actually advocating shortening the lights.  The article you linked to appears to have been spinning a memo he provided to the city council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Billings, who is appalled that the city wants to add cameras at all, the actual comments made by our police chief aren&#8217;t particularly troublesome.  As far as I can tell, he was saying any change in light timing should be announced, with more extensive notices given if they are shortened, without actually advocating shortening the lights.  The article you linked to appears to have been spinning a memo he provided to the city council.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#21    J. Blanton 

...I own a few guns... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You probably don&#039;t have much to worry about then.  I don&#039;t think cops like to pop flash bangs, burst through people&#039;s doors with guns drawn, kill family pets, throw the occupants down, kneeling on their heads, and shout hysterical incoherent commands when they know someone on the other side might have a weapon.  Fuck, that would be dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#21    J. Blanton </p>
<p>&#8230;I own a few guns&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>You probably don&#8217;t have much to worry about then.  I don&#8217;t think cops like to pop flash bangs, burst through people&#8217;s doors with guns drawn, kill family pets, throw the occupants down, kneeling on their heads, and shout hysterical incoherent commands when they know someone on the other side might have a weapon.  Fuck, that would be dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264566</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It went on and on, with them seemingly trying their hardest to amass arguments against legalization, downplaying any benefits, and focusing on the negatives.&quot;
&amp;
&quot;A hack job based on the myopic assumption that prohibition actually works in the first place.&quot;

That&#039;s an interesting take.  I can&#039;t say that&#039;s how the piece came across to me at all.  Can you point at any other reports from a popular news source (CNN, FOX, et al) that you feel were significantly better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It went on and on, with them seemingly trying their hardest to amass arguments against legalization, downplaying any benefits, and focusing on the negatives.&#8221;<br />
&amp;<br />
&#8220;A hack job based on the myopic assumption that prohibition actually works in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting take.  I can&#8217;t say that&#8217;s how the piece came across to me at all.  Can you point at any other reports from a popular news source (CNN, FOX, et al) that you feel were significantly better?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Blanton</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264565</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you what...with 420 yesterday and all of these news stories about pot they&#039;ve got me wanting some, which is ironic because I&#039;ve never tried it and haven&#039;t been interested in using it until lately...I&#039;m just freaked out about the DEA crashing into my apartment and what might happen (I own a few guns and have my concealed weapons permit...and we all know what happens with legally owned guns + drug raids).  Maybe it will be legalized within the next few years (or at least remove the jail time!  I&#039;ll risk a fine or something similar but not being locked up).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you what&#8230;with 420 yesterday and all of these news stories about pot they&#8217;ve got me wanting some, which is ironic because I&#8217;ve never tried it and haven&#8217;t been interested in using it until lately&#8230;I&#8217;m just freaked out about the DEA crashing into my apartment and what might happen (I own a few guns and have my concealed weapons permit&#8230;and we all know what happens with legally owned guns + drug raids).  Maybe it will be legalized within the next few years (or at least remove the jail time!  I&#8217;ll risk a fine or something similar but not being locked up).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Leatherwood</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264539</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Leatherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, the Minutemen and other defenders of American soil only defended themselves from their homes. Lee surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse only because he realized he was on public property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, the Minutemen and other defenders of American soil only defended themselves from their homes. Lee surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse only because he realized he was on public property.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264515</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a better idea if they want to generate revenue: make all lights red all the time.  Why leave to chance that some people will make it through?  With all red, all the time, its a guaranteed revenue generator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a better idea if they want to generate revenue: make all lights red all the time.  Why leave to chance that some people will make it through?  With all red, all the time, its a guaranteed revenue generator.</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/21/morning-links-175/comment-page-1/#comment-264512</link>
		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Red Light Camera story is VILE!!!!

There are sound engineering reasons for the length of a yellow light.  There&#039;s a range you put the duration in, so that you don&#039;t put people in dilemma zones.  The goal of the signal in the first place is to apportion right-of-way so that more people get through the intersection quickly and without injury to themselves or their vehicles.

It&#039;s not a revenue generation variable, you asshats!

Red light cameras have been so perverted by euphemistically named &#039;law enforcement&#039; and city money grabbers.  They can be a super effective tool for reducing ALL accidents.  Sign the heck out of it.  Give proper yellow time.  And you&#039;ll get good reduction of red-light running and a reduction in accidents.  But no, these dickweeds want to play with people&#039;s lives because their budgets are a little tight right now.

Vile scum of the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Red Light Camera story is VILE!!!!</p>
<p>There are sound engineering reasons for the length of a yellow light.  There&#8217;s a range you put the duration in, so that you don&#8217;t put people in dilemma zones.  The goal of the signal in the first place is to apportion right-of-way so that more people get through the intersection quickly and without injury to themselves or their vehicles.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a revenue generation variable, you asshats!</p>
<p>Red light cameras have been so perverted by euphemistically named &#8216;law enforcement&#8217; and city money grabbers.  They can be a super effective tool for reducing ALL accidents.  Sign the heck out of it.  Give proper yellow time.  And you&#8217;ll get good reduction of red-light running and a reduction in accidents.  But no, these dickweeds want to play with people&#8217;s lives because their budgets are a little tight right now.</p>
<p>Vile scum of the earth.</p>
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