I don’t have any idea what the welfare rates in your “Deep South” are, there, buddy, but my wife works are the ER here in Albuquerque, and yeah, a healthy portion of her patients are “No Fixed Address” and “Spanish Language Only”.

Her sister was working at a school where 90% of the students speak no English at all, and they don’t even bother trying to teach them anymore, per school district policy.

ER services and schools cost money. And as for your SSN example, I know people who’ve been on the other side of that coin, and it’s not all wine and roses when the IRS comes and audits you for never reporting your income from the chicken processing plant that’s 7 states away.

So let me again state that the answer is to get rid of all the government crap that infests our lives, but point out that since that’s not real bloody likely, it is correct to note that there are “societal” costs that the employers get to foist off on the rest of us.

I’ve hired illegals, knowingly and unknowingly. I’ve rented to people here illegally. I’ve seen families torn apart by daddy being deported.

I’m with Thomas Paine- good people should be able to go where they want, when they want.

BTW, have you read Ed Anger? He’s a better writer than dobbs.

http://weeklyworldnews.com/author/wwnedanger/

Dobbs’ articles belong page 6 of The National Enquirer right above Lindsay Lohan’s recent rehab photos and below the Kim Kardashian nip slip. No more, no less. Dobbs is tabloids for grownups. And there are people reading his books and voting!

What a mood I’m in today. You’d think it’s Monday. Sorry agitator commentators…A socialist country run by a communist party has again delayed my flight pending paperwork. I’m getting it out of my system before I show up there knowing it’s in my best interest to keep my freedom-oriented mouth shut the hell up.

They put money in drugs then blame the dealers. Force down the price of money for housing then blame lenders, make it impossible to immigrate and create then blame “Illegals” ecetera.

NAPOLITANO: Well, you know, Sheriff Joe, he is being very political in that statement, because he knows that there aren’t enough law enforcement officers, courtrooms or jail cells in the world to do what he is saying.

But the notion that you’re going to fill every prosecutor’s time, every law enforcement official’s time, and that’s literally what he’s talking about, on immigration, he doesn’t answer the other question, which he has been criticized for, by the way, in Maricopa County, because he is not going after murders, armed robberies, other more serious crimes, because he is so focused on this one.

Also, a note about high school economics. Maybe I should have failed high school economics but my perfect grade in college macro remembers the first rule of economics: Resources are limited. So yessir there is a fixed amount of wealth in the world at any given moment. You may suggest that exploitation of those fixed resources generates wealth…it does, but it doesn’t do it quickly, and for any given decade you can assume a fixed quantity of wealth that I sure as hell hope *someone* is trying to manage so I can work my ass off, make some money, and not suddenly find it all meaning nothing. Well, short of buying a bunch of gold bricks, growing a beard, and hiding in an old shack in the mountains until I die from the smell.

OK, I’ll throw my hat into the ring. Companies that hire illegals do so to cut costs, or more accurately, shift costs to taxpayers. The circumstances that allow this may be illogical and should be changed, but I find companies that do this to be evil as well.

//Throw rotten fruit as needed… (but be aware of who picked it for you.)

It’s a smokescreen. It’s the old bait and switch. It’s a case of them not wanting us to look at the man behind the curtain. They consciously and subconsciously alike label what they want to as evil to get you to look at that instead of all the evil they are perpetrating. It’s not THE problem but is a symptom of the much greater problem that is a corrupted at it’s core government.

I’m as much a fan of South Park as anyone, but I’m not sure the face of illegal immigration is as you described for most people. For me, I just think of the syrup-chuggin Canadiens coming down and being all nice while slipping you a bogus quarter (which is the same size as ours!). Go to NYC or Boston and Mexican “illegals” don’t make the top 10 for most people. As you travel across the USA, you notice that each region has a dominant ethnic hotel maid…that usually matches the local illegal immigration “problem” (just observing here) and there are many variations.

But I will grant you that if the only illegal immigration was from Ireland (and mostly the ginger-kind that Cartman hates), we wouldn’t have the immigration venom we have today. Besides, talk to Spike Lee about the hipocracy of a US crack down on illegal immigration. 40 acres and a mule! Not that I agree, but worth noting.

As a person of size, and grandson of a celebrity (Big Daddy Don Durkin was a competitive eating champ in Central Canada), I’ve had to withstand prejudice. I’ve been kicked out of buffets and moved to the middle seat on small planes. I validate your pain.

“And the government should strive for the ideal, for children especially.”

Ha! It really is “for the chillren!” JUST NOT CHILDREN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IMAGINARY LINE CALLED A BORDER! Hence the limits of the morality of socialism as practiced by every country in the world.

They also cover how Obama won’t prosecute “front line” CIA (the working man) agents for torture. Oh, he won’t prosecute their bosses or anyone else, either.

What can I say? I’m of a younger generation.

@#14 | Boyd Durkin

“Beaners”. Really?
Just putting it out there, you know, so we all know what we are actually talking about. Janet is not talking just about illegals. She’s taking about dirty filthy brown people “takin’ er’ jerbs” and the evil cigar smoking industrialist fatcats squeezing the poor white people.

I mean, WTF do I know about barely-spoken and back-door racist fear-mongering used by our government officials exploit emotions to get a dumb policy enacted? I’m just a simple fucking arab-e’merican from the deep south. It’s pretty common for the PC (yes, PC) conservative “terrorism-hating” folks to tiptoe around their flat-out disgust with my skin.

When dobbs says “illegal immigrants are evil”, and janet says “employers who hire illegals are evil”, what’s the first thing popping into your head? Mexicans. Hoards of fucking mexicans rolling across the Rio Grande like an unstoppable flood of white-chick sex having brown people and their welfare children.

While that image is obviously bullshit, if you to ask a 10 year old white kid to “draw an illegal alien”, I have 10-1 odds the alien would wear a sombrairo.

When we talk about illegal immigration, we are ALWAYS talking about brown people in terms of them vs. us.

That’s why, even if I had to start biking to work everyday, seeing the UAW in dire straights would be worth it. The one thing I’m most thankful for in my whole life is that I lived long enough to see that happen. The rust belt industries, governments, and unions reveled in their arrogant greed for 75 years and now Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” is coming around and smacking them right in the nuts as hard as it can over and over delivering a dose of the very reality that they thought only applied to other people.

“I find it fair-play to ask old Janet to get her house in order before passing judgment over the rest of us.”

Apparently that was too subtle for a Monday morning, Radley…