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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Thalience</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-264196</link>
		<dc:creator>Thalience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite disagree with the point of view that &quot;spending more&quot; is the same as &quot;spending worse&quot;.

Just the raw amount of debt incurred is pretty worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite disagree with the point of view that &#8220;spending more&#8221; is the same as &#8220;spending worse&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just the raw amount of debt incurred is pretty worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263524</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: lenses (#8):  Hey, I&#039;ve been stopped by the police for carrying suspicious electronic equipment.  Seriously.  It was a 70s-era transistor radio.  Though I don&#039;t think the (I was about to say idiot, but that would not be nice) was convinced that I wasn&#039;t a terrorist.  

I suspect quite a few people carrying big lenses have had problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: lenses (#8):  Hey, I&#8217;ve been stopped by the police for carrying suspicious electronic equipment.  Seriously.  It was a 70s-era transistor radio.  Though I don&#8217;t think the (I was about to say idiot, but that would not be nice) was convinced that I wasn&#8217;t a terrorist.  </p>
<p>I suspect quite a few people carrying big lenses have had problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote of the&#160;Day</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263380</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote of the&#160;Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a comment referring to the Gestapo harassing&#160;photographers: That’s right; I don’t want to be too [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263270</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the night shots.  Radley, you have to get flickr.  The amount of mindblowing photos will amaze you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the night shots.  Radley, you have to get flickr.  The amount of mindblowing photos will amaze you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263251</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22 Wayne,

Thanks for posting that youtube suggestion about not talking to cops.  I hadn&#039;t seen that before and really enjoyed it.  In fact, I&#039;ll send the link to my daughter as well.  She&#039;s a public defender and I&#039;d like to get her take on it.  She told me once she&#039;d like to hand out T-shirts that said, &quot;Nobody Talks, Everybody Walks&quot;.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 Wayne,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting that youtube suggestion about not talking to cops.  I hadn&#8217;t seen that before and really enjoyed it.  In fact, I&#8217;ll send the link to my daughter as well.  She&#8217;s a public defender and I&#8217;d like to get her take on it.  She told me once she&#8217;d like to hand out T-shirts that said, &#8220;Nobody Talks, Everybody Walks&#8221;.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: SusanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Return of medical marijuana (maybe a different link):
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12157601
Here&#039;s a more thorough article about him asking for it back:
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/crime/story/1330684.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Return of medical marijuana (maybe a different link):<br />
<a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12157601" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12157601</a><br />
Here&#8217;s a more thorough article about him asking for it back:<br />
<a href="http://www.fresnobee.com/local/crime/story/1330684.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fresnobee.com/local/crime/story/1330684.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263145</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2, #6, #8...

In high school I used to take photos of planes down at the airport with one of my friends (like what you see at airliners.net). I eventually had to give it up due to constant police harassment. I would get questioned at length almost every time I went down there. Another Matt&#039;s post about lenses is hilarious because you need really big lenses to get good shots of airliners, I was in the &quot;Al Qaeda henchman&quot; category I think.

One cop said he had received a report of &quot;guys running around in trenchcoats with guns&quot; and threatened to arrest me if I ever came back (what for I have no idea). I wish I had a better understanding of my rights back then, I was really scared of being arrested for being a terrorist or something like that.

On a related note nighttime photos of airliners landing or taking off are really cool, it looks like someone has hung up some christmas lights in a completely impossible way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2, #6, #8&#8230;</p>
<p>In high school I used to take photos of planes down at the airport with one of my friends (like what you see at airliners.net). I eventually had to give it up due to constant police harassment. I would get questioned at length almost every time I went down there. Another Matt&#8217;s post about lenses is hilarious because you need really big lenses to get good shots of airliners, I was in the &#8220;Al Qaeda henchman&#8221; category I think.</p>
<p>One cop said he had received a report of &#8220;guys running around in trenchcoats with guns&#8221; and threatened to arrest me if I ever came back (what for I have no idea). I wish I had a better understanding of my rights back then, I was really scared of being arrested for being a terrorist or something like that.</p>
<p>On a related note nighttime photos of airliners landing or taking off are really cool, it looks like someone has hung up some christmas lights in a completely impossible way.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of food safety... didn&#039;t you just link to this Reason article on homemade goods being sold at church bake sales, and &quot;licensed kitchen facilities&quot;?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/132833.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of food safety&#8230; didn&#8217;t you just link to this Reason article on homemade goods being sold at church bake sales, and &#8220;licensed kitchen facilities&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/132833.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/blog/show/132833.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I understand the points made by Ben, Dave, and Sharpton Fan, but I&#039;m not confident that &quot;I was looking for adult porn and I found my 17 year old daughter&quot; isn&#039;t going to turn ugly.  It almost sounds like the gubmint is too lazy to conduct their own sting operations and wants people to conduct them themselves.  

And as we all know, we should never ever talk to the police -- I just re-reviewed those two videos by the law professor and the cop over on another website.  If you haven&#039;t seen them, look them up, I&#039;m sure they are on youtube -- &quot;don&#039;t talk to cops,&quot; part 1 is 27 minutes part two is 21 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I understand the points made by Ben, Dave, and Sharpton Fan, but I&#8217;m not confident that &#8220;I was looking for adult porn and I found my 17 year old daughter&#8221; isn&#8217;t going to turn ugly.  It almost sounds like the gubmint is too lazy to conduct their own sting operations and wants people to conduct them themselves.  </p>
<p>And as we all know, we should never ever talk to the police &#8212; I just re-reviewed those two videos by the law professor and the cop over on another website.  If you haven&#8217;t seen them, look them up, I&#8217;m sure they are on youtube &#8212; &#8220;don&#8217;t talk to cops,&#8221; part 1 is 27 minutes part two is 21 minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: anarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>anarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way I can see the trend issuing from Vermont going is that the ubiquity of now-taboo images will come to have the same effect on passions - namely nil - that bare ankles came to have after the Victorian era. 

I leave it for wiser heads to decide whether this trend is good or bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way I can see the trend issuing from Vermont going is that the ubiquity of now-taboo images will come to have the same effect on passions &#8211; namely nil &#8211; that bare ankles came to have after the Victorian era. </p>
<p>I leave it for wiser heads to decide whether this trend is good or bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Robz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you’re wondering, yes, Obama is spending a hell of a lot worse than Bush. And Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ–by some estimates since FDR.&quot; 

I was  hoping the graph would allow me to compare Bush&#039;s spending vs Obama&#039;s, but this doesn&#039;t look like it does that.

#1. It&#039;s a debt graph, not a spending graph. 

#2. The fiscal year starts on Oct 1. By the time 2009 had rolled around, the debt for the current fiscal year was already 485.2 Billion.   Which makes me think that Obama&#039;s probably burning money at about the same rate as Bush. 

I guess I&#039;ll go looking for budget projections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you’re wondering, yes, Obama is spending a hell of a lot worse than Bush. And Bush was the biggest spender since LBJ–by some estimates since FDR.&#8221; </p>
<p>I was  hoping the graph would allow me to compare Bush&#8217;s spending vs Obama&#8217;s, but this doesn&#8217;t look like it does that.</p>
<p>#1. It&#8217;s a debt graph, not a spending graph. </p>
<p>#2. The fiscal year starts on Oct 1. By the time 2009 had rolled around, the debt for the current fiscal year was already 485.2 Billion.   Which makes me think that Obama&#8217;s probably burning money at about the same rate as Bush. </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll go looking for budget projections.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daffy - yeah, some of the cartoons from that time period are definitely propaganda, war-effort type stuff.  I&#039;d have to pull out some DVDs to check this out in more detail, but I do remember one that had the pledge of allegiance in it (possibly Porky Pig saying it).  Interestingly, this was before &quot;under God&quot; was put in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daffy &#8211; yeah, some of the cartoons from that time period are definitely propaganda, war-effort type stuff.  I&#8217;d have to pull out some DVDs to check this out in more detail, but I do remember one that had the pledge of allegiance in it (possibly Porky Pig saying it).  Interestingly, this was before &#8220;under God&#8221; was put in!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Child nudity doesn&#039;t necessarily constitute child porn, although it will almost certainly result in a long drawn out court battle that one may or may not win depending on the societal winds at the time of the trial.

The federal case against Jock Sturges that was ultimately dropped because they didn&#039;t think they could win in court.  There was also an Alabama case against Barnes &amp; Noble for selling books by Sturges (by then famous because of the federal case) which was dropped when B&amp;N decided to fight it.

Jock Sturges took pictures with an 8x10 view camera at nudist resorts in France and California and has pictorial histories of people from their birth until they themselves gave birth.  In the U.S., nudity and porn are thought of as one and the same by many.

Given the hysteria that nothing exceeds the harm caused by nudity, I think it&#039;s only a matter of time before the law requires that children be born with their clothes on.

Personally, I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s a government responsibility to punish a child for publishing a nude picture of themselves.  It&#039;s more indisputable evidence that child porn laws have nothing to do with the welfare of children and everything to do with the prejudices of adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Child nudity doesn&#8217;t necessarily constitute child porn, although it will almost certainly result in a long drawn out court battle that one may or may not win depending on the societal winds at the time of the trial.</p>
<p>The federal case against Jock Sturges that was ultimately dropped because they didn&#8217;t think they could win in court.  There was also an Alabama case against Barnes &amp; Noble for selling books by Sturges (by then famous because of the federal case) which was dropped when B&amp;N decided to fight it.</p>
<p>Jock Sturges took pictures with an 8&#215;10 view camera at nudist resorts in France and California and has pictorial histories of people from their birth until they themselves gave birth.  In the U.S., nudity and porn are thought of as one and the same by many.</p>
<p>Given the hysteria that nothing exceeds the harm caused by nudity, I think it&#8217;s only a matter of time before the law requires that children be born with their clothes on.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s a government responsibility to punish a child for publishing a nude picture of themselves.  It&#8217;s more indisputable evidence that child porn laws have nothing to do with the welfare of children and everything to do with the prejudices of adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpton_Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharpton_Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne: Not necessarily.  A naked 17 year old girl doesn&#039;t look that much different from a naked 18 year old girl (well, if my memories from being 16 are accurate, anyway) and there are quite a few &quot;amateurs&quot; sites out on the &#039;net that post pics taken with, erm, &quot;consumer grade&quot; photographic equipment, in non-studio settings.

So, it&#039;s not exceedingly implausible that one might be browsing such photographs, and then experience the sudden chill of &quot;Holy crap, that&#039;s my daughter!&quot;  Thus, not specifically browsing for kiddie pr0n, and yet still suddenly in possession of it.  And pretty much everyone else out there looking at it won&#039;t know any better, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne: Not necessarily.  A naked 17 year old girl doesn&#8217;t look that much different from a naked 18 year old girl (well, if my memories from being 16 are accurate, anyway) and there are quite a few &#8220;amateurs&#8221; sites out on the &#8216;net that post pics taken with, erm, &#8220;consumer grade&#8221; photographic equipment, in non-studio settings.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s not exceedingly implausible that one might be browsing such photographs, and then experience the sudden chill of &#8220;Holy crap, that&#8217;s my daughter!&#8221;  Thus, not specifically browsing for kiddie pr0n, and yet still suddenly in possession of it.  And pretty much everyone else out there looking at it won&#8217;t know any better, either.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 Matt
You couldn&#039;t be more on target with that. The MSM have used Madoff as &quot;this is what is wrong about capitalism&quot; while ignoring Obama&#039;s massive spending. This is the biggest blow job I&#039;ve seen since the advent of free porno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 Matt<br />
You couldn&#8217;t be more on target with that. The MSM have used Madoff as &#8220;this is what is wrong about capitalism&#8221; while ignoring Obama&#8217;s massive spending. This is the biggest blow job I&#8217;ve seen since the advent of free porno.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;#7 &#124;  Wayne &#124;  April 17th, 2009 at 10:25 am&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;If I find a picture of my child on the Internet (child naked in the picture), then I have child pornography. I’m not likely going to find pornographic pictures of my child unless I’m looking for them, and in that case I would likely have to sift through images of other children.&lt;/i&gt;

Not necessarily. Child pr0n doesn&#039;t mean there is a sex act occuring in the photo. Or even nakedness. A girl in her underwear, reclining on her bed with her legs slightly apart would be considered CP. That&#039;s something that MySpace would allow, to the best of my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>#7 |  Wayne |  April 17th, 2009 at 10:25 am</b> <i>If I find a picture of my child on the Internet (child naked in the picture), then I have child pornography. I’m not likely going to find pornographic pictures of my child unless I’m looking for them, and in that case I would likely have to sift through images of other children.</i></p>
<p>Not necessarily. Child pr0n doesn&#8217;t mean there is a sex act occuring in the photo. Or even nakedness. A girl in her underwear, reclining on her bed with her legs slightly apart would be considered CP. That&#8217;s something that MySpace would allow, to the best of my knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link for Obama&#039;s spending is infuriating.  Madoff is a petty pick pocket compared to our overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link for Obama&#8217;s spending is infuriating.  Madoff is a petty pick pocket compared to our overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsu Dho Nihm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tsu Dho Nihm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
#12 &#124;   Dave Krueger &#124;  April 17th, 2009 at 10:55 am

The Antichrist.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excellent!  My dad should be sending me a hellhound any day now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
#12 |   Dave Krueger |  April 17th, 2009 at 10:55 am</p>
<p>The Antichrist.
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<p>Excellent!  My dad should be sending me a hellhound any day now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#9    Tsu Dho Nihm 

I have a 400mm lens…what does that make me?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Antichrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#9    Tsu Dho Nihm </p>
<p>I have a 400mm lens…what does that make me?</p></blockquote>
<p>The Antichrist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/17/morning-links-174/comment-page-1/#comment-263077</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#7    Wayne 

Were you looking for child pornography, sir?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I went to see my daughter argue a child porn appeal before the 9th Circuit several years ago.  It only involved a single picture, but the judges wanted to see it, but the appeal didn&#039;t hinge on the content of the picture since both sides agreed it met the definition of child porn.  As a result, the picture wasn&#039;t really part of the case and wasn&#039;t readily available.  What was funny is the discussion of how the prosecutor danced around the issue of getting the picture to the judge because if she sent it through the mail it could constitute a violation of child porn laws and she sure as heck wasn&#039;t going to put it in an email.

There is no common sense when it comes to the justice system and they know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#7    Wayne </p>
<p>Were you looking for child pornography, sir?</p></blockquote>
<p>I went to see my daughter argue a child porn appeal before the 9th Circuit several years ago.  It only involved a single picture, but the judges wanted to see it, but the appeal didn&#8217;t hinge on the content of the picture since both sides agreed it met the definition of child porn.  As a result, the picture wasn&#8217;t really part of the case and wasn&#8217;t readily available.  What was funny is the discussion of how the prosecutor danced around the issue of getting the picture to the judge because if she sent it through the mail it could constitute a violation of child porn laws and she sure as heck wasn&#8217;t going to put it in an email.</p>
<p>There is no common sense when it comes to the justice system and they know it.</p>
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